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View Poll Results: Is hunting wrong?
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Old 07-20-2006, 05:11 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Hunting is fine. Hunting for sport is dumb in my opinion but hunting for food is totally alright. The animals are just that. Animals. They have no soul. It's ok to kill them. As someone else mentioned earlier (forget who) FOOD CHAIN. That's the way it works. They die anyways. Plus God gave us the animals for food and said it's ok to eat them. But that's a whole different discussion.

God made them for us to eat? Explains why adam was killing everything left and right and you know, not getting along with the animals or anything.

Genesis 1 verses 20-31,the whole god creating animals/man thing. The only reference she makes to food is "I give you every seed-bearnig plant on the face of the whole and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food" and "I give every green plant for food".

Humans are animals, but i'll let that pass seeing as I know what you mean. As for animals having no souls (if souls exist), why don't they? Is it cause they can't talk? Well I suppose every mute has no soul either.
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Old 07-20-2006, 05:19 PM   #62 (permalink)
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And if you guys are this much against killing animals unless you're making good use of them, I suppose yuo guys are also against zoos, aquariums and circuses as well.
Hunting an animal to kill it, is really no different than dirving an animal insane and then it just kills itself or poses a danger to itself, other ranimals and is then laid to rest as a result.
Yes, I am. Wild animals should not be put on show for our entertainment.

And you are not vegetarian if you eat fish, call yourself 'semi-vegetarian' if it helps to ease your guilty conscience, but at the end of the day fish have feelings and it hurts when someone sticks a hook down your throat and pulls.

potato, please give me solid proof that an animal has no soul. Have you ever asked one?
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Old 07-20-2006, 05:35 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Killing elephant or rhinos for tusks is something that's been going on for centuries probably. And while I know it's wrong and am firmly against poaching I can't help but think it's something of a lost cause because
1) the area is too large for someone to always surveill the entire area.
2) most reserve parks for endgangered animals aren't always beneficial tot he animal. Sure it protects them from poachers but not from it's natural predators. Case in point, cheetahs are endangered and any found in the wild are quickly put on a reserve where they are hunted down by their predators and killed anyway.
3) these animals are gonna die one way or another.
Cause you know, its not humans fault at all that alot of these animals are endangered.

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And a lot of game animals (animals that are hunted) legally are overpopulating the area, so whether they're dead bodies are used or not doesn't matter because it's one less animal we have to worry about wandering ouside a forest, into a town, and then becoming roadkill.
Two years ago, I had a teacher late to work because he hit a deer. During that same year, a ton of other people had delays because of deer crossing raods in packs at one point. You have no idea what kind of danger that can cause. Deer hunting season was plentiful that year, to say the least
Its really not that hard to avoid a deer, and it takes not even 10 seconds out of your day to stop it and let it cross the road.

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And if you guys are this much against killing animals unless you're making good use of them, I suppose yuo guys are also against zoos, aquariums and circuses as well.
Hunting an animal to kill it, is really no different than dirving an animal insane and then it just kills itself or poses a danger to itself, other ranimals and is then laid to rest as a result.
How would you feel if you saw a kid that got no pay, and was only fed but kept in a cage and forced to entertain night after night? I'm completely against animal abuse and forcing them to do that kinf of thing. And really you saying that doesn't prove anything if i'm already against it.
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Old 07-20-2006, 09:24 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Crowquill, I'm too tired to start that discussion right now but if you really want to know what I mean by what I said and what I base it on PM me.
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Old 07-20-2006, 11:25 PM   #65 (permalink)
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as you all said, humans are animals, well then we are like the other carnivors out there, that is why humans have canines, to eat meat
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Old 07-20-2006, 11:47 PM   #66 (permalink)
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as you all said, humans are animals, well then we are like the other carnivors out there, that is why humans have canines, to eat meat

LOL! we're omnivores smart one. Meaning we eat both animals and plants, we're almost detritivores because we don't eat things that are very fresh they are dead so they must be decomposing.


But really this is a topic that it just has to be put to each his/her own. Nobody is going to sway from their opinion from this it would take something else to give them a nudge into either direction.
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Old 07-20-2006, 11:49 PM   #67 (permalink)
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what ever, you guys know what i mean, i was thinking it was omnivores but wasnt sure at the moment, so i said carnivor
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Old 07-21-2006, 12:05 AM   #68 (permalink)
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Cause you know, its not humans fault at all that alot of these animals are endangered.
Humans can only do but so much to protect endangered species even if they do care. The point of wildlife reservations is to protect animals from poachers. But do you know that most animals put into these reservations by humans for their own protection are also putting them in an enlcosed space with a great deal of their predators?
Hence the reasons cheetahs are going extinct

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Its really not that hard to avoid a deer, and it takes not even 10 seconds out of your day to stop it and let it cross the road.
And this is one of those cases where hunting is encessary because the deer population abuot two year ago was so large you could hardly drive trying to avoid herds of deer. Especially late at night. Imagine being on a two lane road at 9 in the evening and you and everyone else is driving 60 mph/ And then imagine a deer coming out nowhere. You do not wanna know how many cars slowed and swerved and how many near death experiences we had.
Although in most cases the deer either died or survived. But in all cases there was at least one injured person.

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How would you feel if you saw a kid that got no pay, and was only fed but kept in a cage and forced to entertain night after night? I'm completely against animal abuse and forcing them to do that kinf of thing. And really you saying that doesn't prove anything if i'm already against it.
You make it sound like I'm trying to sway you to my side of thinking.
In any event, very few things would sway me from my way of thinking.
You being vegetarian doesn't mean anything. It won't stop an owl from eating a guinea pig or me from eating a the owl (if necessary).
Once again one of my interepretations of survival of the fittest: if it's strong enough, it'll survive my predatory advances. If not, it gets eaten.
And your anology was kinda poor. There are several laws that protect people from these of degredation and ways of punishing it.
However, I realize laws are made to be broken and the most I can say is: we can't save everybody
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Old 07-21-2006, 12:22 AM   #69 (permalink)
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Humans can only do but so much to protect endangered species even if they do care. The point of wildlife reservations is to protect animals from poachers. But do you know that most animals put into these reservations by humans for their own protection are also putting them in an enlcosed space with a great deal of their predators?
Hence the reasons cheetahs are going extinct
You missed my point completely, alot of these animals are endangered to begin with because of humans.

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And this is one of those cases where hunting is encessary because the deer population abuot two year ago was so large you could hardly drive trying to avoid herds of deer. Especially late at night. Imagine being on a two lane road at 9 in the evening and you and everyone else is driving 60 mph/ And then imagine a deer coming out nowhere. You do not wanna know how many cars slowed and swerved and how many near death experiences we had.
Although in most cases the deer either died or survived. But in all cases there was at least one injured person.
If there was that many deer, there would be a sign on it, but of course, signs aren't there for any paticular reason. This story, seems extremely made up, where did this happen?

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You make it sound like I'm trying to sway you to my side of thinking.
In any event, very few things would sway me from my way of thinking.
You being vegetarian doesn't mean anything. It won't stop an owl from eating a guinea pig or me from eating a the owl (if necessary).
Once again one of my interepretations of survival of the fittest: if it's strong enough, it'll survive my predatory advances. If not, it gets eaten.
And your anology was kinda poor. There are several laws that protect people from these of degredation and ways of punishing it.
However, I realize laws are made to be broken and the most I can say is: we can't save everybody
Let me get this straight, just because you can kill it and eat it you should kill it and eat it? Thats disgusting, and another thing just because you can't save everybody doesn't mean you can't save anybody. Also, survival of the fittest? Just because we have the guns doesn't mean we should go shoot up anything with lets and, i'm fine with people eating meat, i'm not some vega-nazi. Potatos reason was just stupid, I called him/her on it.
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You missed my point completely, alot of these animals are endangered to begin with because of humans.
Not every endangered specie is endangered ebcause of humans. The one point I was trying to make.


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If there was that many deer, there would be a sign on it, but of course, signs aren't there for any paticular reason.
Isolated season to my knowledge, so few people had gone hunting that year that there were more deer than usual. And there were signs at this particular road indicating that deer may cross. But I hardly doubt we were prepared for the herds that did cross (emphasis on herds).

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Let me get this straight, just because you can kill it and eat it you should kill it and eat it? Thats disgusting, and another thing just because you can't save everybody doesn't mean you can't save anybody. Also, survival of the fittest? Just because we have the guns doesn't mean we should go shoot up anything with lets and, i'm fine with people eating meat, i'm not some vega-nazi. Potatos reason was just stupid, I called him/her on it.
If I can kill it and eat it, I will kill it and eat it. The fact is I ened emat in my diet and if I were to say resort to cannibalism as a means to acquire meat (if encessary) we'd be debating about that as well. So let's agree to disagree.
And take it from me, you don't need a gun to kill something. Sometimes you don't need any weapon. Just your bare hands. You'r be suprised what people will do out of desperation and or just for food.
And I love people that don't eat meat. More variety if you ask me. So now I've got meat, I've got boca burgers, and tofu, and who knows what they'll come up with next.
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