The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (shows, quote, 2006, Ching)

[right-track]

Originally Posted by DontRunMeOver

You know, sometimes people (parents included) use their 'culture' as an excuse for carrying out strange modes of behaviour... Did you really have to sit at the table for 4 hours? That's not German. That's plain weird.

Sadistic even.

mmm on second thoughts!

[DontRunMeOver]

Ma Cherie, did they buy you lots of pornography? That's a very German cultural trait.

I have to put that, because on the 'guide to German cultural values' on the web it actually goes on about the German love for porn. Yes, saddo googled it.

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

Now now lets not resport to stereotypes.

You may as well just go ahead & ask her if she goosesteps to school.

[Ma Cherie]

Originally Posted by DontRunMeOver

You know, sometimes people (parents included) use their 'culture' as an excuse for carrying out strange modes of behaviour... Did you really have to sit at the table for 4 hours? That's not German. That's plain weird.

yes i did, and my dad was the one who forced me to, my mom tried to convince him other wise, my grandfather and grandmother did it to him because he was sent to a consentration camp during WW2 for now joining the hitler youth, and because there was nothing to eat hardly, he ingraind the thought of if its on your plate and edible you must eat it, no excuses.

[Ma Cherie]

Originally Posted by DontRunMeOver

Ma Cherie, did they buy you lots of pornography? That's a very German cultural trait.

I have to put that, because on the 'guide to German cultural values' on the web it actually goes on about the German love for porn. Yes, saddo googled it.

no my grandparent talked about sex and sexual themes in front of the americans that came to our house though

[DontRunMeOver]

Originally Posted by Ma Cherie

yes i did, and my dad was the one who forced me to, my mom tried to convince him other wise, my grandfather and grandmother did it to him because he was sent to a consentration camp during WW2 for now joining the hitler youth, and because there was nothing to eat hardly, he ingraind the thought of if its on your plate and edible you must eat it, no excuses.

Aha, it all comes out eventually. Now that really IS interesting. See, now if you tell people "blah, blah German, blah, blah" they don't care, but if you tell them the details about concentration camps, refusals to join the Hitler youth and resultant (!) grandchild brain-fukkery then your heritage actually becomes interesting and meaningful.

Actually, it starts to sound pretty damn fascinating...

[Ma Cherie]

Originally Posted by DontRunMeOver

Aha, it all comes out eventually. Now that really IS interesting. See, now if you tell people "blah, blah German, blah, blah" they don't care, but if you tell them the details about concentration camps, refusals to join the Hitler youth and resultant (!) grandchild brain-fukkery then your heritage actually becomes interesting and meaningful.

Actually, it starts to sound pretty damn fascinating...

see, i wasn't wanting to tell to much because its kinda a personal thing, along with having to learn some form of music, my dad plays guitar, i do vocals and bass, my grandfather played accordian and sung as well ect....

[DontRunMeOver]

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Now now lets not resport to stereotypes.

You may as well just go ahead & ask her if she goosesteps to school.

Ah, but those are two different things. Goosestepping IS a pure stereotype, because it relates to an image which many people associate with Germany, but which is HISTORICAL - although the Nazism which it was associated with is still one of the most important parts of German and European histories - not CURRENT.

The pornography association is a much more relevant because Germany 'consumes' lots of porn, the most in Europe. It consumes it to this very day and that is, I believe, a relevant cultural trait.

[jr.]

This has been an interesting thread. I'd like to comment on some of the posts, but I'm not sure how to 'multiple quote', so I'll just wing it.

As far as the person who had to sit at the table for 4 hours, I don't see how anyone can blame that on their heritage. That seems more a parenting decision than anything else.

About the fast food watering down in Europe, that's got nothing to do with any color but one: green.

And about the stereotyping. That ties in nicely with the original topic of this thread, racism. People form opinions on what they see from the outside, and without bothering to find out the facts, or experience someone else's ways, they grow and nurture their uneducated views until hate sprouts.

[Ma Cherie]

the main sterotype about me was:"if your german your a nazi...", i did not like that at all...it hurt