The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (house, classic, quote)

tdoc210 · 07-22-2006, 05:03 PM

P.S This will be strictly Moderated. Please stay on topic.

right-track · 07-22-2006, 05:08 PM

Israel will continue to do as they please while he U.S. turn a blind eye.
My bet is that Israel will restrict it's activities in the Lebanon, until they get what they want.
Israel's biggest worry is Britain's political disapproval. Which will not materialise enough to make a difference.

The rest of the Middle East are in no position to intervene on the Lebanon's behalf. Least of all Iran.

End game...Israel to temporarily crush Hezbollah's efforts and withdraw.

EDIT: To echo DOCS wishes about moderation.
If this thread gets heated... please no personal attacks.
Serious and mature discussion only.

tdoc210 · 07-22-2006, 05:18 PM

^ It's great to get your input

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riseagainstrocks · 07-22-2006, 06:16 PM

I'm behind Isreal. This country has been under constant attack since the hour it was formed. To negotiate with Hezbollah is akin to the US negotiating with the Bloods or Crips or some other street gang. That's what Hezbollah is. A street gang. To much is attributed to these militant fanatics. And civilian casualties are regretable in any and every case. But the fact is, Isreal has put up with this for far too long.

It tried building a wall to shut out its enemies and was ordered by the UN to tear it down. What the hell does the international community want for Isreal? Obviously not much.

What they are doing is more than justified and I can only hope they make their assault more concentrated rather than using the hammer to kill the fly as they are now.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 07-22-2006, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks

I'm behind Isreal. This country has been under constant attack since the hour it was formed. To negotiate with Hezbollah is akin to the US negotiating with the Bloods or Crips or some other street gang. That's what Hezbollah is. A street gang. To much is attributed to these militant fanatics. And civilian casualties are regretable in any and every case. But the fact is, Isreal has put up with this for far too long.

Of course occupying the Gaza Strip , The West Bank & South Lebanon illegally is hardly going to endear yourself to your neighbouring countries either.

Hezbollah are a little more than a street gang. In fact the reason they were created in the first place was to get the Israelis out of illegally occupied Lebanon. Ok they were backed & financed by Iran but I don`t see that as being any worse than Isreal being backed & financed by the U.S.

I`m not saying that they`re white & squeaky clean , just that both sides are as bad as each other and that I don`t really see how it`s possible to pick sides. There are so many different factions in the middle east there will never be a solution to suit all of them.

There`s a very fine line between terrorists & heroes of the cause , usually depending on which side wins.

sleepy jack · 07-22-2006, 08:34 PM

Nice cut and paste tdoc, i'm still confused as to how out of all this freedom in america will end...Also, doesn't a world war require, well a world war? 'Cause it seems like a few countries are missing out here..

tdoc210 · 07-22-2006, 08:37 PM

^ Its from the group im from.

Raine · 07-22-2006, 09:29 PM

Israel is getting hit pretty hard as of lately.
But I can't say I think they're in the right.

And there will always be war amongst the people in the middle east. part of it is because of religion and lack of freedom to choose between religions.

tdoc210 · 07-22-2006, 09:37 PM

War, is failure.

Raine · 07-22-2006, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the death of capitilism

War, is failure.

but necessary to help control the human population

07-22-2006, 05:03 PM	#1641 (permalink)
tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,617	P.S This will be strictly Moderated. Please stay on topic. __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.

07-22-2006, 05:18 PM	#1643 (permalink)
tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,617	^ It's great to get your input . __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.

07-22-2006, 06:16 PM	#1644 (permalink)
riseagainstrocks Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: DC Posts: 3,320	I'm behind Isreal. This country has been under constant attack since the hour it was formed. To negotiate with Hezbollah is akin to the US negotiating with the Bloods or Crips or some other street gang. That's what Hezbollah is. A street gang. To much is attributed to these militant fanatics. And civilian casualties are regretable in any and every case. But the fact is, Isreal has put up with this for far too long. It tried building a wall to shut out its enemies and was ordered by the UN to tear it down. What the hell does the international community want for Isreal? Obviously not much. What they are doing is more than justified and I can only hope they make their assault more concentrated rather than using the hammer to kill the fly as they are now. __________________ One note timeless, came out of nowhere...

07-22-2006, 08:37 PM	#1647 (permalink)
tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,617	^ Its from the group im from. __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.

07-22-2006, 09:37 PM	#1649 (permalink)
tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,617	War, is failure. __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.

07-22-2006, 05:08 PM	#1642 (permalink)
right-track Atchin' Akai Join Date: May 2005 Location: Unamerica Posts: 8,723	Israel will continue to do as they please while he U.S. turn a blind eye. My bet is that Israel will restrict it's activities in the Lebanon, until they get what they want. Israel's biggest worry is Britain's political disapproval. Which will not materialise enough to make a difference. The rest of the Middle East are in no position to intervene on the Lebanon's behalf. Least of all Iran. End game...Israel to temporarily crush Hezbollah's efforts and withdraw. EDIT: To echo DOCS wishes about moderation. If this thread gets heated... please no personal attacks. Serious and mature discussion only.

07-22-2006, 09:29 PM	#1648 (permalink)
Raine Full-Time Hellion Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: PA Posts: 1,531	Israel is getting hit pretty hard as of lately. But I can't say I think they're in the right. And there will always be war amongst the people in the middle east. part of it is because of religion and lack of freedom to choose between religions.