The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (show, quote)

[[MERIT]]

Originally Posted by swimintheundertow

Let's go even more elementary instead of repeating the same thing of what I believe let's get down to the basics of your logic. Like to the ridiculously stupid. How do you make a decision? Seriously I want to understand how I can gain back my free will and make good decisions.

If youre going to talk to me like I'm stupid (especially when youre the genius who is blatantly and outright denying the existance of anything ) then you can go f**k yourself. Now, how do I make a decision? I make a decision based on what I want, in combination with what will be the best for the whole. While I can choose whatever I want, per my free will, I tend to be a bit utalitarian in most aspects of my life. Anything else you would like me to help you with?

[swim]

Why do I have to be an asshole? I didn't say anything demeaning. You're quite defensive. I wanted you to break down how free will really works and talk to me like I'm stupid, reread my post[that's why I edited my post because I think you thought I was calling you dumb?], so that I know what I'm not adressing because me shooting in the dark makes me look like a fool in left field to you apparantly.


What's stupid about denying existence? I've more than likely put more thought into it than you have if you can't even think of it as a tangible idea.

[[MERIT]]

Originally Posted by swimintheundertow

Why do I have to be an asshole? I didn't say anything demeaning. You're quite defensive. I wanted you to break down what free will is. You didn't do it and I'm not buying.

Yes, you were being quite condescending in your last post, and I dont appreciate that. And you didnt ask me to define or explain free will to you, you asked me how I make decisions. Learn how to read your own posts And how can you criticize me for believing in free will (which is just commom sense), when you are ignorantly sitting there denying the existance of anything? You are sitting at a computer. That is something. You are breathing air. That is something. You are weraing clothes. That is something. So how can you sit there and say it doesnt exist when your typing on it, breathing it, and wearing it? Are you retarded?

[[MERIT]]

Originally Posted by swimintheundertow

What's stupid about denying existence? I've more than likely put more thought into it than you have if you can't even think of it as a tangible idea.

Look Einstein, no idea is tangible, because its AN IDEA you cant see or touch a thought, genius. And how much thought could have gone into "nah, nothin' exists."

[Crowe]

This whole thread is flawed. The notion that "Killing other people is wrong, don't do it!" Came way before Christianity, the first major civilizations (Sumeria) had this law - 3000 years before Christ was born. As a matter of fact, Sumerian law is where we get the addage "an eye for an eye". Hiu's question is not unanswerable... each person will answer it as they see fit. There is no right or wrong, it's subjective. What Hiu's question may be is inconclusive. There will never be 100% agreeance in either direction (this is a fair assumption, I'm sure you all agree) as long as there are large civs.

So, technically, I am answering hiu's question with...
Because it just is.
There. I have answered the unanswerable question.

But seriously... I think for the most part it is wrong, but there are extinuating circumstances. That is why people the law doesn't really deal with "absolutes". Well, not anymore...

[[MERIT]]

Originally Posted by Crowe

This whole thread is flawed. The notion that "Killing other people is wrong, don't do it!" Came way before Christianity, the first major civilizations (Sumeria) had this law - 3000 years before Christ was born. As a matter of fact, Sumerian law is where we get the addage "an eye for an eye". Hiu's question is not unanswerable... each person will answer it as they see fit. There is no right or wrong, it's subjective. What Hiu's question may be is inconclusive. There will never be 100% agreeance in either direction (this is a fair assumption, I'm sure you all agree) as long as there are large civs.

So, technically, I am answering hiu's question with...
Because it just is.
There. I have answered the unanswerable question.

But seriously... I think for the most part it is wrong, but there are extinuating circumstances. That is why people the law doesn't really deal with "absolutes". Well, not anymore...

Agreed (for the most part)
(but watch your back crowe, common sense is frowned upon in these parts).

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

I`d love to read just one debate on this forum when people are mature & sensible enough to realise that someone having a differing veiw to your own does not require you to start calling people Asshole , Stupid or telling people to go f*ck themselves.

So watch it.

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

I love to read just one debate on this forum when people are mature & sensible enough to realise that someone having a differing veiw to your own does not require you to start calling people Asshole , Stupid or telling people to go f*ck themselves.

So watch it.

I cant help it
According to some I've been "pre-determined" to do so

[swim]

Tangible can be used figuratively just grasp can be used figuratively.


Why would it be easy, quick and thoughtless to say everyone is wrong and nothing exists?

[swim]

Originally Posted by oojay

I cant help it
According to some I've been "pre-determined" to do so

I thought it was your choice?