The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (dance, rock, offspring, quote)

guitar777 · 08-22-2006, 05:51 PM

I was watching The Glenn Beck Show today on CNN (I know what you're thinking I believe Glenn Beck WTF?) and he was talking about how we can't leave Iraq now. If we do Iran will basically take control of it. This I truely believe if we get a stable government in Iraq that's one more ally for us in the Middle East and one less place for Iran to take control over so IMO it's a win win situation we win Iran loses. Anyone else agree?

Stone Magnet · 08-22-2006, 05:58 PM

I'd rather see Iran take control of Iraq than the U.S. take control of Iraq.

riseagainstrocks · 08-22-2006, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Stone Magnet

I'd rather see Iran take control of Iraq than the U.S. take control of Iraq.

easily one of the most ignorant statements ever.

"YEAH LET'S LET THE RADICALS WHO STILL STONE WOMEN AND HATE JEWISH PEOPLE RULE YET ANOTHER COUNTRY"

mosesandtherubberducky · 08-22-2006, 06:09 PM

I think there should of been a better escape plan in the first place. But for now it would be better to have Iraq under military control than to allow Iran to take them over.

cardboard adolescent · 08-22-2006, 09:06 PM

You call that a rant?

And how is leaving thousands of troops stationed in a country that isn't making any sort of progress so that they can get killed by the occasional suicide bomber a win situation?

tdoc210 · 08-23-2006, 04:40 AM

^ aye, we really shouldn't be anywhere besides here. i want my electric automobile.. edison had it all right.

right-track · 08-23-2006, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by the death of capitilism

^ aye, we really shouldn't be anywhere besides here. i want my electric automobile.. edison had it all right.

What is Americas oil doing under the Middle East ANYWAYS.

Alo · 08-23-2006, 01:14 PM

How about letting the people from Iraq have a say in this? Isn't democracy and freedom important for America? Why should they then decide against their own policies, that Iraq should live with their policies?

Though, if I were from Iraq I'd prefer being under American rule...

08-23-2006, 02:22 PM

US will always have a hand in iraq. and with iraqs location near iran, and iran's refusal to stop uranium enrichment, it will be a cold day in hell when the US gives up its only stake in the middle east.

Barnard17 · 08-23-2006, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay

US will always have a hand in iraq. and with iraqs location near iran, and iran's refusal to stop uranium enrichment,

Because god forbid that Iran should have (relatively) environment friendly electric power! I mean, America should have it because they're such sane chaps. They'd never use nukes (apart from against Japan, and really who cares), they'd never fund or stock people who employ terror tactics (apart from Saddam, but hell you just blitzed his country to prove that he no longer had the weapons you sold him years back so I guess it's kinda balanced out. So what if the civvies can't get to hospital, or drink from their taps) and they'd never invade another country (apart from Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq ... twice ...). Compared to the dirty dirty international actions on the part of Iran, who are CONSTANTLY invading other countries and fingering the launch button for those abundant nuclear weapons.

You will excuse me for saying so, but if I we're not ok with Iran having nuclear power, why the hell do we let America stock nukes? Who are we to say that Iran must use coal power (and chuck out ton after ton of CO2) if they want to boil a kettle?

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Originally Posted by oojay

it will be a cold day in hell when the US gives up its only stake in the middle east.

I thought that was Israel ...

08-22-2006, 05:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
guitar777 Wee! Join Date: May 2006 Location: At the computer Posts: 61	My Political Rant (please read) I was watching The Glenn Beck Show today on CNN (I know what you're thinking I believe Glenn Beck WTF?) and he was talking about how we can't leave Iraq now. If we do Iran will basically take control of it. This I truely believe if we get a stable government in Iraq that's one more ally for us in the Middle East and one less place for Iran to take control over so IMO it's a win win situation we win Iran loses. Anyone else agree?

08-22-2006, 05:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
Stone Magnet Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Keswick, Ontario Posts: 658	I'd rather see Iran take control of Iraq than the U.S. take control of Iraq. __________________ Lock to field screen, row the ocean onto sentient ground. New rites of a Vedic sun to attend the blue horizon. Prevails flight resplendent, sails the shrine effulgent windship. Stillness breathes apex supreme - I walk toward the mountain. Crowns the sovereic rite to freedom. Shored the origin forms to a ground accede. Axiom core of the light shrine flight to shining. Glows serene to attenuate the space and time.

08-22-2006, 06:09 PM	#4 (permalink)
mosesandtherubberducky butt say x Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: so i read the question as "Where YOU live" which was kinda funny instead of "Where you live" Posts: 1,628	I think there should of been a better escape plan in the first place. But for now it would be better to have Iraq under military control than to allow Iran to take them over. __________________ Can I have a youtube video for a sig? There's a thing that says "Wrap [YOUTUBE] tags around selected text"

08-23-2006, 04:40 AM	#6 (permalink)
tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,608	^ aye, we really shouldn't be anywhere besides here. i want my electric automobile.. edison had it all right. __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.

08-23-2006, 01:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
Alo Scarf Join Date: May 2006 Location: Brighton, UK Posts: 717	How about letting the people from Iraq have a say in this? Isn't democracy and freedom important for America? Why should they then decide against their own policies, that Iraq should live with their policies? Though, if I were from Iraq I'd prefer being under American rule... __________________ I rocked my shoelaces untied

08-22-2006, 09:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,511	You call that a rant? And how is leaving thousands of troops stationed in a country that isn't making any sort of progress so that they can get killed by the occasional suicide bomber a win situation?

08-23-2006, 02:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
[MERIT] Guest Posts: n/a	US will always have a hand in iraq. and with iraqs location near iran, and iran's refusal to stop uranium enrichment, it will be a cold day in hell when the US gives up its only stake in the middle east.