The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (quote, history)

~~bungalow~~ · 11-21-2005, 06:57 PM

What I want you to back up is how my points are invalid. Are they invalid because you can think of nothing else to say. Once again your useless post has humored me with its complete lack of back up

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 11-21-2005, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

Fuck you're stupid. You can't tell people what they should believe, I hate people like you who try to push their opinions on others, especially when they don't know what the hell they are talking about!

If you knew anything, you'd know that the Bible is supposed to be interpreted. Obviously not everything is true, but they are there for others to take into account, and apply it to their lives by the positive messages and morals that come out of the passages.

Stop trying to pretend you know for sure what happened, because there is no 100% proof that God created the world or the Big Bang Theory, or something completely different.

Get some world experience, because so far you and the other guy who made this thread are talking shit.

What part of this post don't you understand? I don't need to give proof to back up that the Bible is supposed to be interpreted. And you or I cannot prove that The Big Bang Theory or God was how the world was created.

So what's the problem?

~~bungalow~~ · 11-21-2005, 07:08 PM

I know neither one of us can prove it. I'm not saying I can. I'm simply saying that religion causes wars and arguments while science brings answers and cures

I choose the latter

~~bungalow~~ · 11-21-2005, 07:08 PM

And your the one who started the flaming, calling me stupid

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 11-21-2005, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357

And your the one who started the flaming, calling me stupid

Finally you agree with what I've been trying to say, it took you a while. Which justifys why you're acting stupid.

Yes I did start it, because what you said was so irrational.

~~bungalow~~ · 11-21-2005, 07:13 PM

I said nothing irrational

post what I said that was irrational

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 11-21-2005, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357

yeah right
evolution is scientific fact
they just cant tell you that so they dont offend the ***got hipocrite bitch ass christians
evolution has very few discrepancies.... i believe i have more knowledge of this than many of you consisdering i am sitting here.....right next to my copy of Origin of Species, which I have read, and my copy of the bible

hmmmmm.... Darwin supports his theory with 5 years of field research aboard the HMS Beagle, creates a scientific conclusion, is praised by the scientific community and backed by some of the greatest minds in history

the bibles version

and on the last day.... god created man....and there was man, and from this man he took a rib, and created woman
Backed by jesus loving redneck bastards

because of the seperation of church and state, schools no longer have to have a disclaimer stating " Evolution is just a theory", yes, it is true that evolution is a theory, but it a theory in the same way that realativity described by einstein is a THEORY, the thought that earth orbits the sun is THEORY, Continental Drift is a THEORY, The existance of atoms is a THEORY, and electricity is theoretical

THE EVIDENCE FOR EVOLUTION IS OVERWHELMING

This was, end of story. We are not going to run around in circles.

It's done and dusted as far as I'm concerned. And I don't see why you need to try and pull me down in other threads, because this was me voicing my opinion so don't take it so personally. Just because I hate your opinion about religion, doesn't mean I hate what you say about other things.

~~bungalow~~ · 11-21-2005, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

This was, end of story. We are not going to run around in circles.

It's done and dusted as far as I'm concerned. And I don't see why you need to try and pull me down in other threads, because this was me voicing my opinion so don't take it so personally. Just because I hate your opinion about religion, doesn't mean I hate what you say about other things.

I wont argue with you anymore but I will say that I stand by what I posted and do not believe it is irrational. Agree to Disagree

adidasss · 12-02-2005, 09:25 AM

this thread was triggered by the execution of Van Nguyen, a 25 year old Australian citizen executed by hanging today in Singapore. he was caught smuggling a pound of heroin.

I was horrified, can you imagine being in his situation? granted, Singapore's laws about drug trafficking are well known and he made a conscious decision and took the risk that eventually cost him his life, but still, to end someone's life for a pound of heroin......unthinkable.

in the united states, Kenneth Lee Boyd became the 1000th person to be executed since the capital punishment was reinstated ( in 1976 the first death sentence after the reinstatement was enforced in Utah, a man was killed by a firing squad.....this was 1976 ). regardless of the fact that the man was guilty of a heinous crime, I am against the death penalty, only God has the right to decide when someone dies. it's a barbaric act and I simply cannot believe that people are still doing it in the 21st century. it's inhumane and obviously does not serve as a deterrent. people will still commit these crimes. so what is it's purpose? retaliation? an eye for an eye? I could see that being a just cause for killing someone a thousand years ago, but at this stage of human development?

on the other hand, Tookie Williams, the founder of the infamous Crips, is also awaiting execution.there are a lot of people fighting to keep him alive, famous people and I understand he has changed his ways, but he has still killed at least 4 people, and lets be real here, highly likely more than that. is his life more valuable than others awaiting execution?

half_baked87 · 12-02-2005, 01:28 PM

everyone on death row is in the same boat, whether they are repentful or not. and no his life is no more valuable than yours or mine. i like they way george carlin put it, "it doesnt do anything, except satisfy some kind of biblical need for revenge". capital punishment in western society is simply a way for conservative christians to do away with what they see as a wasted life, and also for them to save the upkeep costs of another prisoner for god knows how many years. it really disgusts me that this is even allowed to take place. here we're supposed to be the civilized world, but how can the american government claim that when they still murder their own citizens, even if they have commited serious crimes. and really, if its drugs related, rehabilitation is the answer, not death.

12-02-2005, 09:25 AM	#899 (permalink)
adidasss Slavic gay sauce Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 7,993	the death penalty this thread was triggered by the execution of Van Nguyen, a 25 year old Australian citizen executed by hanging today in Singapore. he was caught smuggling a pound of heroin. I was horrified, can you imagine being in his situation? granted, Singapore's laws about drug trafficking are well known and he made a conscious decision and took the risk that eventually cost him his life, but still, to end someone's life for a pound of heroin......unthinkable. in the united states, Kenneth Lee Boyd became the 1000th person to be executed since the capital punishment was reinstated ( in 1976 the first death sentence after the reinstatement was enforced in Utah, a man was killed by a firing squad.....this was 1976 ). regardless of the fact that the man was guilty of a heinous crime, I am against the death penalty, only God has the right to decide when someone dies. it's a barbaric act and I simply cannot believe that people are still doing it in the 21st century. it's inhumane and obviously does not serve as a deterrent. people will still commit these crimes. so what is it's purpose? retaliation? an eye for an eye? I could see that being a just cause for killing someone a thousand years ago, but at this stage of human development? on the other hand, Tookie Williams, the founder of the infamous Crips, is also awaiting execution.there are a lot of people fighting to keep him alive, famous people and I understand he has changed his ways, but he has still killed at least 4 people, and lets be real here, highly likely more than that. is his life more valuable than others awaiting execution? __________________ “Think of what a paradise this world would be if men were kind and wise.” - Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle. Last.fm

11-21-2005, 06:57 PM	#891 (permalink)
~~bungalow~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hot-lanta Posts: 3,140	What I want you to back up is how my points are invalid. Are they invalid because you can think of nothing else to say. Once again your useless post has humored me with its complete lack of back up

11-21-2005, 07:08 PM	#893 (permalink)
~~bungalow~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hot-lanta Posts: 3,140	I know neither one of us can prove it. I'm not saying I can. I'm simply saying that religion causes wars and arguments while science brings answers and cures I choose the latter

11-21-2005, 07:08 PM	#894 (permalink)
~~bungalow~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hot-lanta Posts: 3,140	And your the one who started the flaming, calling me stupid

11-21-2005, 07:13 PM	#896 (permalink)
~~bungalow~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hot-lanta Posts: 3,140	I said nothing irrational post what I said that was irrational

12-02-2005, 01:28 PM	#900 (permalink)
half_baked87 sammichestime Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 380	everyone on death row is in the same boat, whether they are repentful or not. and no his life is no more valuable than yours or mine. i like they way george carlin put it, "it doesnt do anything, except satisfy some kind of biblical need for revenge". capital punishment in western society is simply a way for conservative christians to do away with what they see as a wasted life, and also for them to save the upkeep costs of another prisoner for god knows how many years. it really disgusts me that this is even allowed to take place. here we're supposed to be the civilized world, but how can the american government claim that when they still murder their own citizens, even if they have commited serious crimes. and really, if its drugs related, rehabilitation is the answer, not death.