The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (quote, teacher)

[Raine]

If you repent or confess to doing an immoral act (sin) but then commit the same act later, are you still redeemed i god's eye? (Assuming god exists)

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Originally Posted by Raine

If you repent or confess to doing an immoral act (sin) but then commit the same act later, are you still redeemed i god's eye? (Assuming god exists)

After repenting for a sin, youre supposed to make a conscious effort to not do it again. If you try your best, avoid temptation, and still happen to do it again, then just repent and ask god for forgiveness and help. But if you just say "sorry god" and dont mean it, and go do the same thing the second you get out of church, then I'm not sure God will be so lenient.

[Raine]

Originally Posted by oojay

After repenting for a sin, youre supposed to make a conscious effort to not do it again. If you try your best, avoid temptation, and still happen to do it again, then just repent and ask god for forgiveness and help. But if you just say "sorry god" and dont mean it, and go do the same thing the second you get out of church, then I'm not sure God will be so lenient.

what if its god's fault that you repeat the same sin over and over again

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Originally Posted by Raine

what if its god's fault that you repeat the same sin over and over again

could you please elaborate or give an example?

[Raine]

Originally Posted by oojay

could you please elaborate or give an example?

what if I were a kelptomaniac and so couldn't help my behavior.

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Originally Posted by Raine

what if I were a kelptomaniac and so couldn't help my behavior.

how is you being a klepto God's fault?

[Raine]

Originally Posted by oojay

how is you being a klepto God's fault?

let's pretend that it's a genetic disorder and I had it. And sicne god created me, it's his fault

[swim]

Originally Posted by oojay

After repenting for a sin, youre supposed to make a conscious effort to not do it again. If you try your best, avoid temptation, and still happen to do it again, then just repent and ask god for forgiveness and help. But if you just say "sorry god" and dont mean it, and go do the same thing the second you get out of church, then I'm not sure God will be so lenient.

God will be just as lenient. He holds no grudge and is willing to give you the free slate anytime you're willing to take it. It's just untill you are truly sorry you aren't forgiven. So Raein it depends on the more than likely complex situation. But the simple way to put it is that if you're truly sorry you will be forgiven and to be truly sorry, atleast in my mind this is the way I look at it, if you change the way you think then you can be sincerely sorry. My logic behind that is say there's a poor guy who has no job and since he has no job he steals bread because he's hungry. Stealing is a sin. And he says to god I'm really sorry but I just don't have any food but the next day he steals again and he's says sorry but i just don't have any food then he can't be forgiven because hes doing the exact same thing over and over and not putting himself into a position where he can stop such as getting a job.

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Originally Posted by swimintheundertow

God will be just as lenient. He holds no grudge and is willing to give you the free slate anytime you're willing to take it. It's just untill you are truly sorry you aren't forgiven. So Raein it depends on the more than likely complex situation. But the simple way to put it is that if you're truly sorry you will be forgiven and to be truly sorry, atleast in my mind this is the way I look at it, if you change the way you think then you can be sincerely sorry. My logic behind that is say there's a poor guy who has no job and since he has no job he steals bread because he's hungry. Stealing is a sin. And he says to god I'm really sorry but I just don't have any food but the next day he steals again and he's says sorry but i just don't have any food then he can't be forgiven because hes doing the exact same thing over and over and not putting himself into a position where he can stop such as getting a job.

O.............M................G. where were you 2 hours ago?

[swim]

Watching saw2 at my dad's friends house. Yea, I'm pretty upset I missed the religous mudslinging fest. I would've tore you a new one. I know the bible like no other nihlist, ya mofo.