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**Janszoon** · 03-15-2014, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

So yea Obesity is a problem in the US but it's a problem by choice in most cases, so you don't need to feel sorry for them or preach a healthier lifestyle to them because that's also one of the choices they have.

Yes and no. Obesity disproportionately affects lower-income people and there really is a pretty big problem with lower-income areas lacking access to healthy food and lacking health education.

The Batlord · 03-15-2014, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Yes and no. Obesity disproportionately affects lower-income people and there really is a pretty big problem with lower-income areas lacking access to healthy food and lacking health education.

The funny thing is that these lower income people seem happier with their eating habits. Sure they may be a little bit more unhealthy on the average, but they're not so self-conscious and neurotic about it either.

**Janszoon** · 03-15-2014, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

The funny thing is that these lower income people seem happier with their eating habits. Sure they may be a little bit more unhealthy on the average, but they're not so self-conscious and neurotic about it either.

That's true, but that's actually part of the problem as well.

The Batlord · 03-15-2014, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

That's true, but that's actually part of the problem as well.

**** it. National problem or not, I choose unhealthy over self-conscious any day of the week. Life's too short to be not eating french fries. It's why I smoke, it why I sit on my ass and play video games, and it's why I eat ice cream like it's rice cakes.

**Janszoon** · 03-15-2014, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

**** it. National problem or not, I choose unhealthy over self-conscious any day of the week. Life's too short to be not eating french fries. It's why I smoke, it why I sit on my ass and play video games, and it's why I eat ice cream like it's rice cakes.

I would think it would be difficult to pick up ice cream with your hands and eat it like a rice cake.

Kartoffelbrei · 03-15-2014, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

You don't have to, they like it that way and it's really not your problem, maybe europe doesn't have a supersize menu but so what? that doesn't make them better just different.

And Dj is right, if you are gonna measure american's eating habits just by that film Super size me you're gonna get a negative and simple minded perspective of the whole thing cause that is the portrayal in the movie.

If you had seen an american documentary on let's say a vegan community and their lifestyle in america you would have a different perspective on a america.

So yea Obesity is a problem in the US but it's a problem by choice in most cases, so you don't need to feel sorry for them or preach a healthier lifestyle to them because that's also one of the choices they have.

I do not have the perspective of america, that everyone is fat, fast food addicted, and in love with things that are bigger than normal. I mean I'm sure there are a lot of people there, that might achieve these criteria, but that hasn't really been my point. As it's already been said, I was just worried, that it was so easy to get your hands on fast food, and that it's more cheap than healthy food is just outrageous, especially because of the children, because they don't have a choice. If their parents eat fatty, than they probably will do the same, until one day they might get to the state of mind, where it's their own decision and they can say "no" to it.
Here in Germany, Fast Food is expensive. Not as expensive as going to a restaurant, of course, but if just buy your ingredients at a supermarket and cook yourself, you can eat without really paying money, lol. Also there are many many vegetarians here, and the hype of fast food doesn't really reach us that much, maybe because we illuminate a lot about the dangers of eating processed food.
The USA has the problem, that fast food was kinda born in your country, yknow? All the big corporations come from america, and they all do a lot of brainwashing, so people will buy their products. They do that here as well, and it makes me worried. But I worry about everything, so... :P

The Batlord · 03-15-2014, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I would think it would be difficult to pick up ice cream with your hands and eat it like a rice cake.

As long as you're willing to chance a little frostbite then it's a pretty efficient way of stuffing one's face.

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Originally Posted by Kartoffelbrei

As it's already been said, I was just worried, that it was so easy to get your hands on fast food, and that it's more cheap than healthy food is just outrageous, especially because of the children, because they don't have a choice. If their parents eat fatty, than they probably will do the same, until one day they might get to the state of mind, where it's their own decision and they can say "no" to it.
Here in Germany, Fast Food is expensive. Not as expensive as going to a restaurant, of course, but if just buy your ingredients at a supermarket and cook yourself, you can eat without really paying money, lol. Also there are many many vegetarians here, and the hype of fast food doesn't really reach us that much, maybe because we illuminate a lot about the dangers of eating processed food.

Fast food is relatively expensive, and healthy food is cheaper. Healthy food is more work though, and it's just easier to go to the drive-thru. Maybe it's that Europe is made of more compact cities (or so I hear) where you don't necessarily need a car, not to mention the price of gas, so cars aren't as big a part of your culture. Over here cars are sort of a necessary thing...even when they're not necessary. And if you have a car then it's just a question of going to the store, taking twenty minutes to buy ingredients, going home, preparing the ingredients, cooking the ingredients, eating, cleaning whatever dishes need to be cleaned, and all of this likely after a full workday. Or...you can take five minutes to go to McDonald's, get a Big Mac, and be full by the time you get home.

Kartoffelbrei · 03-15-2014, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Fast food is relatively expensive, and healthy food is cheaper. Healthy food is more work though, and it's just easier to go to the drive-thru. Maybe it's that Europe is made of more compact cities (or so I hear) where you don't necessarily need a car, not to mention the price of gas, so cars aren't as big a part of your culture. Over here cars are sort of a necessary thing...even when they're not necessary. And if you have a car then it's just a question of going to the store, taking twenty minutes to buy ingredients, going home, preparing the ingredients, cooking the ingredients, eating, cleaning whatever dishes need to be cleaned, and all of this likely after a full workday. Or...you can take five minutes to go to McDonald's, get a Big Mac, and be full by the time you get home.

decent point. Still I eat warm food like once or twice a month, cuz it's not very healthy to eat it all the time. I eat raw food usually - so I don't really have that cooking process

just eat fruit, dude!

Yeah, cars are ...dunno. Never had one, never will have one, never will need one. Everything is connected by train & bus systems, even if you don't live in the city. And if you go by train, it's cheaper than driving with a car

Pet_Sounds · 03-15-2014, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kartoffelbrei

Yeah, cars are ...dunno. Never had one, never will have one, never will need one. Everything is connected by train & bus systems, even if you don't live in the city. And if you go by train, it's cheaper than driving with a car

From what I remember of Berlin and Prague at a low time of the year for tourism, feet are much faster than cars anyway.

**Janszoon** · 03-15-2014, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kartoffelbrei

decent point.

Yeah, cars are ...dunno. Never had one, never will have one, never will need one. Everything is connected by train & bus systems, even if you don't live in the city. And if you go by train, it's cheaper than driving with a car

For the record, I didn't own a car for 14 years and got by just fine. You do need them in a lot of the US, but not in the denser cities that I lived in during that time.

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