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guitargirl_93 11-29-2008 12:57 AM

Damnit if that's the case, just kill me now.

khfreek 11-29-2008 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by shiseido_red (Post 554263)
Okay so why are people who think animal life is as valuable as human life idiots? You can't call someone an idiot just because of their beliefs.

And one can say that the spectrum of human emotions are instinctual as well. So is it okay to torture humans, because the love and emotion they feel is just instinct?

First question: Humans feel love for each other and have hopes and dreams. That automatically makes their life more valuable, and you'd actually be surprised at how sympathetic I am for starving/indigent people compared to my views on animals.

Second question: Because we all know laughing at funny movies and falling in love are instinctual actions :|

sleepy jack 11-29-2008 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by matious (Post 554267)
i wouldn't say they are idiots, but they're priorities are definitly not in the right places.

It doesn't annoy you how much these people work to care for puppy's and trash micheal vick, all the while they're are starving HUMANS out in the world?

Have you ever met anyone who says its good people are starving and then turned around and said what Michael Vick did was awful?

guitargirl_93 11-29-2008 12:58 AM

My dog totally laughs at movies.

Astronomer 11-29-2008 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by matious (Post 554267)
i wouldn't say they are idiots, but they're priorities are definitly not in the right places.

It doesn't annoy you how much these people work to care for puppy's and trash micheal vick, all the while they're are starving HUMANS out in the world?


No, it doesn't annoy me, there will always be starving people and tortured animals but at least these people are doing something for what they believe in. And I wasn't saying I was in favour of PETA I was just saying that you can't call someone an idiot because of what they believe in and what charitable actions they chose to perform in society. "Oh they're helping puppies but they're not helping the starving children of Ethiopia." - Well at least they're doing something for the community which is pretty rare these days.

Plus it's like sleepy jack said, mentally disabled people often have incredibly low IQs in many cases and have a limited range of emotions, but we don't eat them, do we?

khfreek 11-29-2008 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack (Post 554266)
Basically his argument is you have to have a certain IQ level to be worthy of life. Awesome.

WHOA. How dare you. Emotions and intelligence have nothing to do with each other, if what you said was true I'd say all retards deserve to die because they're taking up space. And THAT is NOT true.

That just made me really mad, is all.

sleepy jack 11-29-2008 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by khfreek (Post 554275)
WHOA. How dare you. Emotions and intelligence have nothing to do with each other, if what you said was true I'd say all retards deserve to die because they're taking up space. And THAT is NOT true.

So I take it you don't think a connection between high intelligence and complex emotions?

Sparky 11-29-2008 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack (Post 554271)
Have you ever met anyone who says its good people are starving and then turned around and said what Michael Vick did was awful?

Does it make a bit of difference that i haven't come across this one person?

I never said PETA people were happy for human suffering, i said they should be focusing they're efforts on something more worthwile, that being human life.

Throwing paint on fur is damn rebellious and motivating, but water and food for people in need would also go a long way..

Astronomer 11-29-2008 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by matious (Post 554280)
I never said PETA people were happy for human suffering, i said they should be focusing they're efforts on something more worthwile, that being human life..

Are you involved in any projects that aim to make human life better?

If yes, then good on you.

If no, then PETA are doing more for the community than you are. So leave them alone for doing good work towards something they believe in.

lucifer_sam 11-29-2008 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by matious (Post 554267)
i wouldn't say they are idiots, but they're priorities are definitly not in the right places.

Yeah I definitely know what you mean.

The bitch from PETA wrote a letter to a Palestinian leader asking him not to subject dogs to cruelty (by using them as vehicles for bombs). The same man was a major proponent of suicide attacks near Jerusalem, and when asked to comment about it she said it "wasn't her priority to dissuade him from using humans as targets."


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