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DwnWthVwls 04-04-2017 02:12 PM

I have no counter if you simply do not care.. If you ever want to shut a vegan down just say "I don't care", they'll probably find you disgusting but they'll have nothing to argue back with.

I will say though that I grew up with Uncles who lived for fishing and used to take me. A lot of hunters in my family as well, but that didn't prevent me from eventually forming my own opinions.

I don't mind being your punching bag.. joke away, I can take it. Assholes :D

Frownland 04-04-2017 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1819825)
I have no counter if you simply do not care.. If you ever want to shut a vegan down just say "I don't care", they'll probably find you disgusting but they'll have nothing to argue back with.

I will say though that I grew up with Uncles who lived for fishing and used to take me. A lot of hunters in my family as well, but that didn't prevent me from eventually forming my own opinions.

I don't mind being your punching bag.. joke away, I can take it. Assholes :D

Does the fact that fish don't feel pain count for anything? I ask because I draw the line at hunting for sport (as opposed to hunting for nourishement) because you can't throw a dead deer back in the water.

Also I thought that you were a vegan because of the meat industry's standards. Tsk tsk I think there's more to it.

The Batlord 04-04-2017 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1819825)
I have no counter if you simply do not care.. If you ever want to shut a vegan down just say "I don't care", they'll probably find you disgusting but they'll have nothing to argue back with.

I'm totally fine with that. Our positions are simply incompatible and there's nothing to be done but agreeing to disagree. I still enjoy tormenting you with tales of delicious, rare, bloody burgers and how they end up as diarrhea in my toilet though.

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I will say though that I grew up with Uncles who lived for fishing and used to take me. A lot of hunters in my family as well, but that didn't prevent me from eventually forming my own opinions.
I've never been, and will never be about hunting (even though I have an uncle who probably would have loved to take me). I always do catch and release too. I'd feel bad if I caught a fish and ate it. But hunting is a bigger thing to me, just as stepping on a spider is bigger than eating a fish. "Higher" life forms, such as deer, rabbits, and bears, "deserve" more consideration than fish, just as spiders deserve more consideration than amoebas. To some extent it might be illogical, but to some extent treating fish equally to deer is illogical as far as I'm concerned.

But yeah I'd never go hunting. Not in a million years. Regardless of what rational moral reasons I could use, I'd just feel like a monster for shooting a deer. I understand why people do it, and I understand why it means something else to them than it does to me, so I don't judge, but it's not for me.

DwnWthVwls 04-04-2017 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1819829)
Does the fact that fish don't feel pain count for anything? I ask because I draw the line at hunting for sport (as opposed to hunting for nourishement) because you can't throw a dead deer back in the water.

Also I thought that you were a vegan because of the meat industry's standards. Tsk tsk I think there's more to it.

I'm working my way towards it for ALL animal rights.. the meat industry just happens to be the thing I find the most disgusting, but really I'm just against unnecessary killing/harm of any kind (and strongly against pet owning/breeding as well).

It doesn't really count for anything to me, but I can at least empathize with those who use that as kind of the deciding factor. I really just don't see the point of taking a life when there are other options for nourishment that cause less harm.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1819833)
I'm totally fine with that. Our positions are simply incompatible and there's nothing to be done but agreeing to disagree. I still enjoy tormenting you with tales of delicious, rare, bloody burgers and how they end up as diarrhea in my toilet though.



I've never been, and will never be about hunting (even though I have an uncle who probably would have loved to take me). I always do catch and release too. I'd feel bad if I caught a fish and ate it. But hunting is a bigger thing to me, just as stepping on a spider is bigger than eating a fish. "Higher" life forms, such as deer, rabbits, and bears, "deserve" more consideration than fish, just as spiders deserve more consideration than amoebas. To some extent it might be illogical, but to some extent treating fish equally to deer is illogical as far as I'm concerned.

But yeah I'd never go hunting. Not in a million years. Regardless of what rational moral reasons I could use, I'd just feel like a monster for shooting a deer. I understand why people do it, and I understand why it means something else to them than it does to me, so I don't judge, but it's not for me.

Stocked fish aside.. Most fish are more important to their ecosystems than deer. Deer are actually somewhat of a pest, so it's hard to agree with your thinking (if we are going to take special consideration based on some ranking system surely it should be based around ecology and not arbitrary human perception). And I can still appreciate delicious animal food, I just try not to indulge anymore.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 04-04-2017 02:21 PM

i see fishing and hunting as way less serve than the meat industry. i would much rather eat a deer or a fish that i killed myself than a pig who spent his entire life covered in **** being pumped full of steroids and who knows what else just to be killed.

The Batlord 04-04-2017 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1819834)
I'm working my way towards it for ALL animal rights.. the meat industry just happens to be the thing I find the most disgusting, but really I'm just against unnecessary killing/harm of any kind (and strongly against pet owning/breeding as well).

It doesn't really count for anything to me, but I can at least empathize with those who use that as kind of the deciding factor. I really just don't see the point of taking a life when there are other options for nourishment that cause less harm.

The concept of life itself is arbitrary though. Should a virus or an amoeba be equal to a human or a chimp or a dolphin? At a certain evolutionary point it's basically just a mindless biological engine. I guess the ability to feel pain might be a decent divider, but at what point does an organism's ability to feel pain translate into legitimate suffering and not just plain stimulae?

I'm not arguing against veganism or vegetarianism btw, just against the idea, either explicit or implicit, of life being sacred. I mean, at the end of the day we're all just the emergent process of a few billion cells without consciousness of their own.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 04-04-2017 02:57 PM

https://i.imgur.com/sgkm2Y1.png

The Batlord 04-04-2017 03:01 PM

I got off work today early and have tomorrow off. Finished my beer at around 4pm. Think I'm gonna go buy more beer and eat Hardee's or some ****. Otherwise the next 8 hours are gonna suck. Seriously, beer needs to be bigger, food needs to be less tasty, and my job needs to be more slavey.

Frownland 04-04-2017 03:04 PM

You should try out that one beer called vodka. 40% abv.

Cuthbert 04-04-2017 06:03 PM

My legs are cold (wearing shorts) and my cat just came over and is sleeping on them and he is warm.

DwnWthVwls 04-04-2017 06:26 PM

Does your cat have a foot fetish too?

Cuthbert 04-04-2017 06:32 PM

I don't think he does but he likes licking things constantly.

The Batlord 04-04-2017 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1819905)
I don't think he does but he likes licking things constantly.

Good thing he's on your lap.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 04-05-2017 01:42 PM

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...df&oe=595CD04A

The Batlord 04-05-2017 01:44 PM

I think I just realized why Monkey likes football so much, the creepy perv.

Frownland 04-05-2017 01:45 PM

So I guess Anne Frank had a thing for golden showers. Convenient kink for tight quarters, that.

rostasi 04-05-2017 03:28 PM

https://i.imgur.com/7AUxTUV.gif

...aaaand, in reverse...

https://i.imgur.com/3dCy4sZ.gif

The Batlord 04-05-2017 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1820181)
You don't see the irony in being a carnivore but not being able to stomach hunting

You don't think that's an original point to make? I don't have to shoot a cow to eat a steak and so I am not bothered. I'm not really concerned with the moral logic being consistent.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 04-05-2017 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1820184)
Makes you a bitch tho naw I'm sayin

no

Frownland 04-05-2017 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1820184)
Makes you a bitch tho naw I'm sayin

What the **** is this elph

Frownland 04-05-2017 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1820189)
I'm not a vegetarian either I'm just aware we probably shouldn't be eating what we personally won't kill

No, you used an unacceptable form of "Do you know what I am saying?".

Also,
http://i.lvme.me/jaa7pj5.jpg

The Batlord 04-05-2017 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1820184)
Makes you a bitch tho naw I'm sayin

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1820189)
I'm not a vegetarian either I'm just aware we probably shouldn't be eating what we personally won't kill

No it makes me like pretty much everyone else, I just don't come up with self-serving BS excuses for eating meat. I worry about the moral issues that concern me and ignore the ones that don't.

The Batlord 04-05-2017 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1820194)
Yeah and everybody else is a bitch too where applicable

I guess. So you said you aren't a vegetarian. What's your bull**** excuse?

Frownland 04-05-2017 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1820195)
I guess. So you said you aren't a vegetarian. What's your bull**** excuse?

He personally kills his own meat, pay attention.

DwnWthVwls 04-05-2017 04:00 PM

I could argue for hours about veganism with you dolts, but it seems kind of pointless.

DwnWthVwls 04-05-2017 04:02 PM

Because no one wants to hear your music.

The Batlord 04-05-2017 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1820198)
I don't have one, but I realize my hands aren't totally clean here

Why do I drive a car instead of taking the bus

So we basically have exactly the same position, bitch.

The Batlord 04-05-2017 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1820201)
I'm just asking if you realize it's a goofy position if you care about animal suffering enough to be squeamish

Of course it's a goofy position and apparently I'm fine with that.

The Batlord 04-05-2017 04:27 PM

Just found a blog dedicated to hating Cincinnati. Here's a taste.

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Between the three day period of temperate weather in Cincinnati known as "spring" and the free for all retard fest known as "The 'EBN Fireworks, Dude" there is Cincinnati Summer and...it sucks.

It is Mexico City on the Ohio River. It is a crockpot full of shirtless fat Germans stewing in their own chunky toxic humid fumes. It is pollution that has been trying to rise above the valley since the mid 1970's. It is companies all over the county paying off crooked politicians to keep releasing **** into the air, and those politicians continuing to get elected because Cincinnatians hate dark people and homos more than they like to breathe.

Though it may be impossible to inhale during the summer, make no mistake, Cincinnati sucks.
Things that suck about Cincinnati

DwnWthVwls 04-05-2017 04:42 PM

Food Fighters... that cartoon thread got me on a nostalgia trip.



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The Kitchen Commandos wore black boots, green clothing, and carried red weapons.

Burgerdier General, a hamburger
Major Munch, a doughnut (available with chocolate glaze or cherry glaze)
Lieutenant Legg, a chicken drumstick
Sergeant Scoop, an ice cream cone (available as chocolate and vanilla ice cream or sherbet)
Private Pizza, a slice of pepperoni and mushroom pizza

The Refrigerator Rejects wore brown boots, black clothing, and carried blue weapons.

Mean Weener, a hot dog
Chip the Ripper, a chocolate chip cookie (also available as a macadamia cookie)
Short Stack, a stack of pancakes (available with maple syrup or blueberry syrup)
Taco Terror, a taco
Fat Frenchy, a box of French fries
The BBQ Bomber, a barbecue grill armed with a spatula catapult


The Combat Carton, an egg carton with a ketchup bottle cannon holding a tomato-slice missile on the top
The Fry Chopper, a frying pan helicopter with spatula blades
The Refrigerator playset, the Kitchen Commandos' base (unreleased)

Cuthbert 04-05-2017 05:52 PM

This post has nothing to do with Prince or soccer.

Frownland 04-05-2017 05:53 PM

*looks at avatar*

okay

The Batlord 04-05-2017 05:55 PM

You literally just posted about both Prince and soccer.

Cuthbert 04-05-2017 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1820225)
*looks at avatar*

okay

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1820226)
You literally just posted about both Prince and soccer.

You two :D

Frownland 04-05-2017 05:57 PM

If I wasn't lazy I would've changed your avatar so that Prince had a soccer ball on his crotch to elevate my joke.

Cuthbert 04-05-2017 06:04 PM

Might change that avi tbh.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 04-05-2017 06:07 PM

prince and soccer >>>

Cuthbert 04-05-2017 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1820232)
prince and soccer >>>

If he supported a team, it would be Aston Villa imo.

The Batlord 04-05-2017 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1820230)
Might change that avi tbh.

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/4...0_0.00_jpg_srz

Cuthbert 04-05-2017 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1820234)

I've got a sexier one so don't get too excited.


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