TheCunningStunt

Why? My mum has smoked all my life, but she's always refused to smoke in the house so she's always stood at the back door to do so. My Uncle however... smokes no matter who's there.

It's just about being a good parent really.

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VEGANGELICA

I had a grandma like your uncle. When she died, I wasn't sad at all. She was sometimes a nasty, self-centered, barb-tongued woman who belittled my mom and my dad, and was even worse when she drank.

In answer to your question about why smoking outside the house doesn't protect children from the harms of secondhand smoke:

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Burning Down

My parents smoked inside the house for years when I was growing up! They stopped smoking inside a couple of years ago. I'm 20 now and so far my lungs are in good working order. I can still play the flute! Of course I've inhaled all the stuff that is present in second hand smoke but I really don't want to know what. Each of my parents has gone through periods of not smoking. Everything in my house is permeated with a strong smell of stale cigarettes, including MY clothes. And if you walked up to the door without knowing anything about us, the one thing you could be sure of is that there are smokers inside the house.

As a kid, the fact that my parents were smoking in the house was more embarrassing than anything. I would have friends over for short periods once in a while but I never had any sleepovers, I guess because those parents didn't want their kids being exposed to all that crap. I always had to go to somebody else's house.

I've heard that kids whose parents were/are smokers are more likely to pick up the habit. I'm not the least bit interested.

333

Parliament Lights all the way. Actually, "they" have banned cigarette companies from using the term "light" and "ultra light", so I think they're mostly color coded now. Parliament Blues it is.

The Monkey

You forgot Lucky Strike.

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Both my parents used to smoke around the house when i was growing up and they both managed to quit, my dad gave up about 10 years ago and my mum gave up about 15 years ago or sometime before that maybe. I admire them both for being able to quit like that and not go back. They were never heavy smokers but there was always the smell of cigarettes in our living room and the danger of second-hand smoke, i'm not sure if there was much damage done to my lungs from second-hand smoke growing up.

I think it's true that kids whose parents are smokers are more likely to pick up the habit. My grandmother on my mother's side was a very heavy smoker, she would go through at least a pack a day, and all my aunts and uncles on that side of the family as well as my mum are/were smokers, and now i'm a smoker. I suppose when you grow up in that environment it just seems like a natural thing to do because your parents are doing it, so the children pick it up easier than those growing up in an environment with no smokers around.

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If third hand smoke even exists then nobody can escape it at all, and we're all going to die of lung cancer induced by people smoking outside. What a load of balls, to be frank. Scientists need to waste time on something valuable.

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Freebase Dali

AMEN.

Since the idea that trace amounts of 3rd-hand smoke is affecting people negatively is nowhere near ultimately proven, and even if it were, I would encourage these supporters of agenda-terror to focus on other things and realize that the battle is on such a small scale that it's inconsequential in the face of all the other dangers out there... Here are some, not including being raped and killed in an alley downtown:

- Tannins occur widely in plant foods and we ingest them daily in tea, coffee, and cocoa. Tannic acid has caused liver tumors in experimental animals, and may be linked to esophageal cancer in humans.

- Safrole, which is a liver carcinogen in rats, is found in sassafras tea, cinnamin, cocoa (trace), nutmeg, and other herbs and spices.

- Black pepper was found to be carcinogenic to experimental mice. Pyperadine and alpha-Methylpyrroline are secondary amines in black pepper which can be nitrosated to N-nitrosopiperadine, a strong carcinogen.

- Aflatoxins and Ochratoxin A are natural toxins made by fungal food contaminants that also cause cancer in animals and humans.

VEGANGELICA

Third-hand smoke definitely exists...it is the stink you smell on the skin, hair, and clothes of people who smoke, and in the rooms they smoked in due to contamination of sofas, carpet, walls, etc.

The main health concern is for infants, who breathe in more dust and residues in homes since they are closer to the floor, and so are more likely than adults to be affected by third-hand smoke. Also, infants are more susceptible than adults to respiratory troubles and developmental harm caused by carcinogens and other chemicals. What is third-hand smoke? Is it hazardous?: Scientific American

The danger of a carcinogen is a function of the carcinogen's strength, exposure time, and the developmental stage of the person. I doubt most infants are given a lot of coffee, chocolate, pepper, and peanut butter, so the negative impact of third-hand smoke on infants whose parents smoke could be much greater compared to the impact of carcinogens in those foods.

On what basis do you assume that the harm of third-hand smoke is inconsequential compared to the harm of other carcinogens you list? And does the fact that an infant could be murdered mean we shouldn't care about environmental pollutants she is exposed to?

Second-hand smoke (the smoke inhaled by children as parents smoke around them) is much more of a concern than third-hand smoke, but this doesn't mean the negative effect of third-hand smoke on children or adults is negligible and should be ignored or minimized by claiming research into this topic is "agenda-terror." I find it odd that you both feel a certain topic should be off limits to scientists who are trying to understand more fully the negative impacts of smoking on people who are involuntarily exposed.

Here's a brand of cigarette to add to the list: The Candy Cigarette. Hook your customers on the habit while they're young!

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Sansa Stark

This is less likely especially in America nowadays, flavored cigarettes (besides menthol if that counts) are illegal, specifically to stop kids from smoking early because those cigarettes taste like candy. Cigarettes don't exactly taste good, unless they're clove or flavored, so bully that.