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PurpleWolf 02-23-2011 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1009565)
In this thread, Dirty and I will discuss different techniques and give dating advice to you hopeless beta males out there.

We just want to help raise your confidence a bit and give you a few pointers. All advice that we give you it completely up to you whether you take it or not.

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1009755)
What advice are you looking for? :confused:

you didn't explain your situation at all.

I'm not a mind reader.



I thought you were going to discuss different techniques at least =\
Thats all

Ghost 02-23-2011 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1009729)

For example, I was talking to this girl that works at the chinese restaurant. We are okay friends but I really like her. I know that she likes someone else so I don't pursue her anymore but I still playfully flirt. Well I said something to her and then he chimed in and made me look bad right in front of her. Even she noticed how mean/fucked up the comment was. He was back there laughing his butt off but what a dick move to pull and you are supposed to be my wingman. Your job isn't to put me down in front of potential targets. You are supposed to talk me up and show them my worth as a person. Show them my better positive sides.

Man, I had the exact same experience. I really liked this girl and was having some pretty good conversations with her, so eventually i grew a pair and asked her to see a movie. She accepted, so naturally I was excited and told one of my friends. So, later that week before the date I was talking to her in the halls and he walks up and is like "how are you going to pay for your tickets? you're so poor hahaha" and stuff like that. I'm not really poor, my parents are separated and can't afford f cking 56" plasma screens or a new computer whenever they want, but what really pissed me off is that he f cked me over :/ We never even ended up going on that date either.

djchameleon 02-23-2011 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PurpleWolf (Post 1009784)
I thought you were going to discuss different techniques at least =\
Thats all

Oh okay. I will get to that eventually. A little bit later on tonight I will do a run down of the lingo that I use. I'm not sure if Dirty uses the same terms that I do but I will explain them in detail. After I give the run down on the lingo then I will create a few scenarios and how you should handle them.

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Originally Posted by Ghost (Post 1009791)
Man, I had the exact same experience. I really liked this girl and was having some pretty good conversations with her, so eventually i grew a pair and asked her to see a movie. She accepted, so naturally I was excited and told one of my friends. So, later that week before the date I was talking to her in the halls and he walks up and is like "how are you going to pay for your tickets? you're so poor hahaha" and stuff like that. I'm not really poor, my parents are separated and can't afford f cking 56" plasma screens or a new computer whenever they want, but what really pissed me off is that he f cked me over :/ We never even ended up going on that date either.

Man, I really hate cockblocks but when you are faced in situations like that. you can salvage the situation depending on what they said. In your situation, I would've told her he's a liar and he doesn't know anything about my life and just ask her what movie she wants to see and set the date. That was a situation where you could just keep pushing through the situation. I know how it feels though and sometimes you get disarmed and caught off guard by the cockblock that you don't know how to respond.

Hindsight is 20/20 but that was a relatively easy scenario to recover from. You could have even went as far to open your wallet and prove to her on the spot that you have money, if you were that desperate. If she left you though and listened to your friend, she probably wasn't worth it. Brush your shoulders off learn from that lesson and learn how to counter a situation like that in the future and not make the same mistake.

James 02-23-2011 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1009672)
I can't speak for Dirty but I choose to be single. I have went through some rocky relationships in the past and I want a break for a little bit. I still like to flirt and hit on women though. I choose to be single. It's not like we are giving relationship advice. We are giving advice on how to approach women confidently and to analyze different situations that happens to us.





I get that but even if you choose to be single you aren't exactly players. You ask girls out over the internet and the other day Dirty said in the shoutbox that he was so desperate he'd **** anyone atm.

djchameleon 02-23-2011 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1009856)
I get that but even if you choose to be single you aren't exactly players. You ask girls out over the internet and the other day Dirty said in the shoutbox that he was so desperate he'd **** anyone atm.

I don't claim to be a player and what decade are you living in? You do know that you can do both right?

Ask girls out over the internet AND do it in person. It will actually double your chances and give you more experience even if you fail.

I'm just trying to help some of you guys out but if you don't want our advice you don't have to take it.

I know most of the time I will be talking about experiences that have happened to me and analyzing what went wrong so I can fix it for the future.

Dirty 02-23-2011 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1009621)
lol at you and Dirty giving us "beta males" advice even though you're both single.

I'll clarify and say I am not here to give techniques, advice, anything like that. I'd prefer to not even be mentioned in the OP and asked dj a few times in chat to remove me but i dont think he heard me. We had discussion over "pick up artist" stuff the other night and thats kinda what led to this thread. I personally don't know why these pick up techniques and stuff get so much hate and I'd like a female, or male who disagrees with "The Game" (book by Neil Strauss I think) to explain why.

Also, I want to be single.


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Originally Posted by James (Post 1009856)
I get that but even if you choose to be single you aren't exactly players. You ask girls out over the internet and the other day Dirty said in the shoutbox that he was so desperate he'd **** anyone atm.

Nope, didn't say that. Thought I should clear that up a little bit for ya.

Sansa Stark 02-23-2011 11:50 AM

Protips:

-If a girl listens to your friend trash you rather than get to know you herself, she's probably not worth your time. Neither is your friend if he has to cut you down in front of anyone, no matter a potential **** or not

-Self confidence is not gained from your relationships with other people. One cannot gain self worth from another person. CODEPENDENCY IS NOT HEALTHY.

- If you let someone walk all over you, you become part of the drama triangle. It means YOU are at fault as much as the other person. Maybe you need to look at yourself before you worry about getting with other people.

But I guess, you know, if you brahs want to attract bimbos just to ****, disregard that, after all, I'm a boring half of a boring couple.

James 02-23-2011 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty (Post 1009864)



Nope, didn't say that. Thought I should clear that up a little bit for ya.

You said something like "I need to lower my standards, gonna go to a club and take home whoever will have me".

Dirty 02-23-2011 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Plum (Post 1009867)
Protips:


-Self confidence is not gained from your relationships with other people. One cannot gain self worth from another person. CODEPENDENCY IS NOT HEALTHY.
.

Definitely wrong here. Human relationships are a huge part of anyone's confidence and health. They are very important.

Or are you talking strictly about boyfriend/girlfriend relationships

djchameleon 02-23-2011 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty (Post 1009873)
Definitely wrong here. Human relationships are a huge part of anyone's confidence and health. They are very important.

Or are you talking strictly about boyfriend/girlfriend relationships

No, she is right. Co-dependency is horrible and I don't advocate it. It doesn't help your self esteem to have to rely on someone else to give you compliments. You need to love yourself before you can expect others to love you. Oh and btw. I took your name out of it Dirty. I will go through all the other posts and remove your name from them as well.

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Originally Posted by Plum (Post 1009867)
Protips:
- If you let someone walk all over you, you become part of the drama triangle. It means YOU are at fault as much as the other person. Maybe you need to look at yourself before you worry about getting with other people.

Exactly. that's what beta males need to learn. To stop letting someone else walk over them and to take more pride in themselves. They should have more pride and self-worth to not let someone take advantage of them. That all comes in time while they build their self confidence though.
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Originally Posted by Plum (Post 1009867)
But I guess, you know, if you brahs want to attract bimbos just to ****, disregard that, after all, I'm a boring half of a boring couple.

The point of this isn't just to attract bimbos it's to get comfortable with the idea of being able to talk to women period. Majority of women like guys that have some confidence but there is a thin line between having too much confidence and being an ego maniac which is a turn off to them mostly.


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