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Key 05-18-2017 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1837102)
I don't think he's libertarian at all

But he is very conservative

i love when we end up on the same page.

Herb. 05-27-2017 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1671241)
In the last year or so I have become quite interested in the subject of Men's rights, and generally observed the arguments presented by prominent exponents of the cause (be that journalists or YouTube channels).

What I don't understand is the hesitation for many people to say they actively participate in, or support, Men's right activism. In fact, it's generally frowned upon and considered a bit of a joke.

So, you, MB members. Why don't you consider yourself an MRA?

I think its because any type of sex justice is associate with women

Cuthbert 06-29-2017 01:09 AM

'My son was circumcised without my consent' - BBC News

Seen this Goof?

Frownland 06-29-2017 01:32 AM

You ever stretch out your scrotum on a hot day and wrap it around the end of your manhood? Makes you wish you had a foreskin, it's so warm and comfy.

Cuthbert 06-29-2017 01:56 AM

My bellend is already warm.

Frownland 06-29-2017 01:57 AM

Did I mention that once you have it prepared that way, it becomes multipurpose?

Cuthbert 06-29-2017 02:17 AM

What did you think of the article mate?

Frownland 06-29-2017 02:18 AM

At least he's got a pretty dick now.

Goofle 06-29-2017 06:28 AM

I hadn't seen that article but I don't think I have seen a case where there wasn't even consent before.

Dylstew 06-29-2017 07:31 AM

Holy ****ing **** how does this have 89 pages?!

Cuthbert 06-29-2017 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dylstew (Post 1850964)
Holy ****ing **** how does this have 89 pages?!

Cos there are 880+ posts in it mate.

Dylstew 06-29-2017 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1850965)
Cos there are 880+ posts in it mate.

Stop being such a smartass

Cuthbert 06-29-2017 07:44 AM

I haven't broken any rules.

OccultHawk 06-29-2017 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dylstew (Post 1850966)
Stop being such a smartass

Well what else can he say? You asked.

DwnWthVwls 06-29-2017 07:54 AM

Its only 45 pages for me.. The bigger mystery is how does one enjoy browsing a forum with only 10 posts per page?

Dylstew 06-29-2017 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1850971)
Its only 45 pages for me.. The bigger mystery is how does one enjoy browsing a forum with only 10 posts per page?

Touché

Frownland 06-29-2017 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1850971)
Its only 45 pages for me.. The bigger mystery is how does one enjoy browsing a forum with only 10 posts per page?

When you have a device that has a hard time loading more than 10 YouTube embeds at once, you'll understand.

Dylstew 06-29-2017 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1850977)
When you have a device that has a hard time loading more than 10 YouTube embeds at once, you'll understand.

Also touche, mine can't handle them either.

Pet_Sounds 06-29-2017 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1850971)
Its only 45 pages for me.. The bigger mystery is how does one enjoy browsing a forum with only 10 posts per page?

Metric system ftw

Janszoon 06-29-2017 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds (Post 1851001)
Metric system ftw

:laughing:

OccultHawk 07-25-2017 07:45 AM

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.natio...angaroo-courts

I actually support Devos on this one. Rape charges should be handled by the police not university administrators.

Lucem Ferre 07-26-2017 10:13 PM

It always annoys me when an SJW or something complains about a specific type of discrimination then applies that same type of discrimination on the ones that typically are the discriminators and when confronted about it they come with the lame excuse "I'm just giving them a taste of how it is". No bitch, hold yourself to the same standards you fake ass activist.

A good example is on Everyday Struggle when Amber Rose was talking about her slut walk. She was saying that women who like sex shouldn't be shamed and called sluts for it claiming that dudes don't get treated the same. Not long after she called Rob Kardashian a **** boy. A term used to shame guys who use women for sex the same way a slut would use men for sex.

OccultHawk 07-27-2017 12:05 AM

lol

She's rich as all **** because she shows off her body and ****s rappers. Good for her. But does she really feel oppressed? She lives privilege I can't even imagine.

The Batlord 07-27-2017 03:29 AM

But she still has to live with that cringey, white girl blackccent. That's not privilege at all.

Cuthbert 07-27-2017 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1859278)
It always annoys me when an SJW or something complains about a specific type of discrimination then applies that same type of discrimination on the ones that typically are the discriminators and when confronted about it they come with the lame excuse "I'm just giving them a taste of how it is". No bitch, hold yourself to the same standards you fake ass activist.

A good example is on Everyday Struggle when Amber Rose was talking about her slut walk. She was saying that women who like sex shouldn't be shamed and called sluts for it claiming that dudes don't get treated the same. Not long after she called Rob Kardashian a **** boy. A term used to shame guys who use women for sex the same way a slut would use men for sex.

Urban made an excellent point on here before about there being no double standard there, the male equivalent just works in the opposite way. Does being a virgin in your 20s have the same stigma for women that it does for men?

Hypocrisy all over the shop imo.

Chiomara 07-27-2017 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1859278)
It always annoys me when an SJW or something complains about a specific type of discrimination then applies that same type of discrimination on the ones that typically are the discriminators and when confronted about it they come with the lame excuse "I'm just giving them a taste of how it is". No bitch, hold yourself to the same standards you fake ass activist.

A good example is on Everyday Struggle when Amber Rose was talking about her slut walk. She was saying that women who like sex shouldn't be shamed and called sluts for it claiming that dudes don't get treated the same. Not long after she called Rob Kardashian a **** boy. A term used to shame guys who use women for sex the same way a slut would use men for sex.

Urban Dictionary: **** boy
I get why one would be annoyed though the term slut is thrown around far more liberally. It carries more weight. In my experience, women use the term ****boy to describe fickle, childish men who use them and manipulate them emotionally. It still pales in comparison to the sea of names men call women all the time for no reason. (Especially if they're women who they don't agree with/are un****able in their eyes) Based on all of the conversations I've overheard or been a part of, men-- younger men at least-- seem to be far, FAR more vicious when discussing women and will not hesitate to call someone mentioned a slut for no reason at all. People say stupid things in private all the time, and I'm pretty desensitized at this point, but it's still annoying.
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****boy
A ****boy is the type of guy who does **** that generally pisses the population of the earth off all the time. He will also lead girls on just for hookups, says hes really into you but doesn't want to deal with all the "relationship bull****" just to **** you. He thinks about himself and only himself all the time but pretends to be really nice. He also does really ****ed up **** and then complains about people who do the same old **** as him. once a ****boy always a ****boy, because **** boys ganna be ****boys.
I don't care about liberal feminism/choice feminism but I'm assuming what she meant by ''dudes don't get treated the same'' is that, GENERALLY SPEAKING, if a man is called a ****boy, and is known to be promiscuous (whether it's true or not), he doesn't suffer the same consequences (depending on his social circle/workplace/whatever)-- not to the degree that women typically do. It typically does not have a long lasting effect on their reputation (especially if you're famous and like to beat women as well). Those traits ultimately aren't seen as an enormous blight on his character. Again, "Slut" carries far more weight especially if you are a normal person and not a celebrity. I think the term needs to be retired officially so I'm not especially fond of the name of the slut walk thing.

I sure wish those of you who had even a passing curiosity in actual womens issues would actually read some Audre Lorde or something other than tweets and blogs written by pop-feminists and dim celebrities like Emma Watson and Amber Rose. (Believe it or not, this current wave of feminism is ultimately more concerned with still being liked by men rather than actually seriously analyzing or critiquing anything, out of fear of being socially ostracized. They're more concerned with there being more female CEOs than actually improving anything for those who are truly oppressed and suffering. Which is why a lot of pop-feminist blogs will focus so much on comparatively minor things like body hair or whatever. They don't wanna focus on women who actually need help, who exist outside of their upper middle class bubble.)

Frownland 07-27-2017 10:15 AM

I can tell if someone is a ****boy just by their haircut.

Chiomara 07-27-2017 10:22 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQqaq4pWwAAnNZZ.jpg

Though the beard variation is also popular these days.

Cuthbert 07-27-2017 10:45 AM

I was going to post that haircut. The Nazi haircut.

Goopydoopydoop 07-27-2017 11:08 AM

"mens rights" is usually code for kindness, patience, inclusion, fondness, affection, etc. shown to men in culture. This has certainly started to disappear in our culture a tangible way in the last decade and we have started to hear from men that they are feeling all of these things though they are filtering through a conversation about "rights". the only way they will ever fix this and begin to receive any of these things in the future will be to reconcile and compromise with women and other minority groups until their actual rights which have been withheld or used as political fodder are granted fully and unconditionally. I am a man and I can see this but I can not see how to make this argument to the angry men I know.

grindy 07-27-2017 11:23 AM

Not sure women can be considered a 'minority group'.

rostasi 07-27-2017 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1859453)
Not sure women can be considered a 'minority group'.

To these people they are.

Goopydoopydoop 07-28-2017 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1859453)
Not sure women can be considered a 'minority group'.

bless you for your hilariously predictable immature snark in response to my earnest diplomacy.

Frownland 07-28-2017 08:42 AM

He's just a nice guy grindy! We must be respectful when our diplomats take the time to explain things to us.

OccultHawk 07-28-2017 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Goopydoopydoop (Post 1859820)
you win the internet for taking strident diplomacy and digesting it as fodder for snark. you are the problem. you are far too entertained by your own perceived cleverness to see it's vapid emptiness and destructive influence. grow up. you did nothing to offer a better description of groups seeking more fair treatment in our society. maybe start there.

Burn!!!

rostasi 07-28-2017 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Goopydoopydoop (Post 1859820)
bless you for your hilariously predictable immature snark in response to my earnest diplomacy.

Your "earnest"ness is the real hilarity here.

Goopydoopydoop 07-28-2017 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 1859826)
Your "earnest"ness is the real hilarity here.

you are a sad example of humanity and I take my leave of you

Frownland 07-28-2017 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Goopydoopydoop (Post 1859828)
you are a sad example of humanity and I take my leave of you

tsk tsk that's not very diplomatic of you.

grindy 07-28-2017 09:46 AM

Why did you edit your post? That first version was awesome.

OccultHawk 07-28-2017 09:57 AM

Thankfully I had the good sense to quote that treasure.


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