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OccultHawk · 10-25-2017, 07:05 PM

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In disregard for all my nihilism, I actually disagree with this. People in general are pretty retarded when it comes to deciding how the actual world should work (f.ex. North Korea, the economy, Russia, etc) but when it comes to things within their actual lifesphere they can be surprisingly intelligent. And I think learning trades when it's free and right in their faces via public education could very well be one of those things. I'm not saying that your average person would revolutionize the auto industry, but I very much think they could grow up to be perfectly good mechanics who tried their ass off to be a mechanic. They just have to be given the chance via a public education system that isn't a garbage heap and now I see your issue. But I mean we can fix this ****, right?

No. We can’t.

The Batlord · 10-25-2017, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

No. We can’t.

I'm assuming we have different ideas of fixing this ****. I'm down with Finland, but I guess as a hardcore anarchist socialist you've got other ideas. Maybe express those before ****ting on everything else.

OccultHawk · 10-25-2017, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I'm assuming we have different ideas of fixing this ****. I'm down with Finland, but I guess as a hardcore anarchist socialist you've got other ideas. Maybe express those before ****ting on everything else.

I usually don’t usually reveal my **** on here but it really doesn’t matter anymore. I taught in Japan for ten years and in American public schools for another ten. There’s no workable solution for America. The schools are just going to keep getting ****tier and ****tier. There’s no solution. Or at least no pill we’re willing to swallow. Behind the scenes almost every teacher says the same thing. It’s ****ing pointless. This idea, that idea. The ugly truth is we’re being populated by the last people who should be having kids. I promise you, single mothers do not want their kids. They’re paychecks. The kids are just a ****ty job they hate. The kids know they’re hated because they’re neglected and treated like a burden.

Universal Basic Income. Don’t reproduce your worthless DNA to blackmail society into supporting you. We need to support them regardless and stigmatize people who have kids that shouldn’t. The government punish them; the public should.

**** these women with 5 kids from 5 different fathers and no means at all to support them. Not financially or emotionally. Then dump them off at “school”. Then people talk about why the schools are ****ed.

See for your ****ing selves

~~[MERIT]~~ · 10-25-2017, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Universal Basic Income.

Are you for or against a universal basic income?

BASIC INCOME: The Key To Poverty Eradication & Societal Growth

The Batlord · 10-25-2017, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I usually don’t usually reveal my **** on here but it really doesn’t matter anymore. I taught in Japan for ten years and in American public schools for another ten. There’s no workable solution for America. The schools are just going to keep getting ****tier and ****tier. There’s no solution. Or at least no pill we’re willing to swallow. Behind the scenes almost every teacher says the same thing. It’s ****ing pointless. This idea, that idea. The ugly truth is we’re being populated by the last people who should be having kids. I promise you, single mothers do not want their kids. They’re paychecks. The kids are just a ****ty job they hate. The kids know they’re hated because they’re neglected and treated like a burden.

Universal Basic Income. Don’t reproduce your worthless DNA to blackmail society into supporting you. We need to support them regardless and stigmatize people who have kids that shouldn’t. The government punish them; the public should.

**** these women with 5 kids from 5 different fathers and no means at all to support them. Not financially or emotionally. Then dump them off at “school”. Then people talk about why the schools are ****ed.
See for your ****ing selves

I guess you have more experience than I do on the other end, but I don't think parents don't care about their kids or want them to succeed. But I can definitely believe that they don't necessarily believe in the education system as it is, even if they're too ignorant or lazy to conceptualize what they actually want the education system to be. But, again, I most definitely don't believe that they don't want their kids as that would not make any sense whatsoever given the evolution of life itself, as one of, if not the most powerful force in evolution is to make parents want their kids. I honestly think you're just pushing your prejudices against society on education and people in general.

Seriously, it would be a ****ing absolute evolutionary mind**** that parents didn't want their kids when they were basically the only evolutionary reason that those parents even existed in the first place. It's simply what life ****ing is.

OccultHawk · 10-25-2017, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I guess you have more experience than I do on the other end, but I don't think parents don't care about their kids or want them to succeed. But I can definitely believe that they don't necessarily believe in the education system as it is, even if they're too ignorant or lazy to conceptualize what they actually want the education system to be. But, again, I most definitely don't believe that they don't want their kids as that would not make any sense whatsoever given the evolution of life itself, as one of, if not the most powerful force in evolution is to make parents want their kids. I honestly think you're just pushing your prejudices against society on education and people in general.

Seriously, it would be a ****ing absolute evolutionary mind**** that parents didn't want their kids when they were basically the only evolutionary reason that those parents even existed in the first place.

You make a good point from an evolutionary standpoint. I know this sounds like a cop out but right now I’m not up for getting into it. I know it’s kind of Chula-ish to reveal something like this but I didn’t miss a single question on the evolutionary biology section of the high school science teacher certification test. I’ll get into it more later if you’re interested but our political and economic systems make some basic seemingly obvious assumptions about human evolution incorrect. Keep in mind that with many species it’s evolutionarily advantageous not to concern yourself with the well-being off your offspring. Who’s more likely to get pregnant at 16, a well cared for child or a neglected child? Teen mothers are more evolutionarily fit than those who wait. Do educated men have more children? From an evolutionary standpoint, some dude in prison with six kids out there is king.

The Batlord · 10-25-2017, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

You make a good point from an evolutionary standpoint. I know this sounds like a cop out but right now I’m not up for getting into it. I know it’s kind of Chula-ish to reveal something like this but I didn’t miss a single question on the evolutionary biology section of the high school science teacher certification test. I’ll get into it more later if you’re interested but our political and economic systems make some basic seemingly obvious assumptions about human evolution incorrect. Keep in mind that with many species it’s evolutionarily advantageous not to concern yourself with the well-being off your offspring. Who’s more likely to get pregnant at 16, a well cared for child or a neglected child? Teen mothers are more evolutionarily fit than those who wait. Do educated men have more children? From an evolutionary standpoint, some dude in prison with six kids out there is king.

Check the post directly over yours for my expanded thoughts on your post. I kind of agreed with you in a way. Honestly I think that the kind of advanced society we've developed simply isn't suited to poo flinging apes a few ten thousand years from going to war over bananas.

**Frownland** · 10-25-2017, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I usually don’t usually reveal my **** on here but it really doesn’t matter anymore. I taught in Japan for ten years and in American public schools for another ten. There’s no workable solution for America. The schools are just going to keep getting ****tier and ****tier. There’s no solution. Or at least no pill we’re willing to swallow. Behind the scenes almost every teacher says the same thing. It’s ****ing pointless. This idea, that idea. The ugly truth is we’re being populated by the last people who should be having kids. I promise you, single mothers do not want their kids. They’re paychecks. The kids are just a ****ty job they hate. The kids know they’re hated because they’re neglected and treated like a burden.

Universal Basic Income. Don’t reproduce your worthless DNA to blackmail society into supporting you. We need to support them regardless and stigmatize people who have kids that shouldn’t. The government punish them; the public should.

**** these women with 5 kids from 5 different fathers and no means at all to support them. Not financially or emotionally. Then dump them off at “school”. Then people talk about why the schools are ****ed.

See for your ****ing selves

Fair enough, you clearly know a lot more about this than I do (no sarcasm).

I think my castration idea I dropped earlier might play into the Idiocracy scenario you have here.