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The Batlord 08-10-2018 04:35 PM

Comics are gay though.

Oriphiel 08-10-2018 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1985593)
Top two posters on this thread are non LGBTs.

Just an observation.

Yeah, I'm mostly straight. But hilariously enough, some of those examples of LGBT people being treated like **** (pushed around, yelled at by drivers, called a *** by one of their parents) were actually from personal experience.

Even if you're just kinda curious, or even completely straight but happen to have a look that people read as "gay", you get **** on. People see an effeminate guy and suddenly feel compelled to **** with them.

Btw, pretty sure Batlord is LGBT, considering he's mentioned having sex with a guy before.

Cuthbert 08-10-2018 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1985610)
Yeah, I'm mostly straight. But hilariously enough, some of those examples of LGBT people being treated like **** (pushed around, yelled at by drivers, called a *** by one of their parents) were actually from personal experience.

Even if you're just kinda curious, or even completely straight but happen to have a look that people read as "gay", you get **** on. People see an effeminate guy and suddenly feel compelled to **** with them.

Btw, pretty sure Batlord is LGBT, considering he's mentioned having sex with a guy before.

That's true but Charles is straight, pretty sure he will confirm this.

Anyway just an observation.

Oriphiel 08-10-2018 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1985606)
Comics are gay though.

https://i1.wp.com/mycomicbookcrisis....00%2C654&ssl=1

The Batlord 08-10-2018 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1985612)
That's true but Charles is straight, pretty sure he will confirm this.

Anyway just an observation.

Yeah I'm basically straight, but I'll differentiate that from 100% straight. I've had sexual relations with a guy and I enjoyed it more or less cause it was kind of fun. You don't have to be gay or even bi to enjoy aspects of homosexual sex, you just have to be open minded I guess and have something to you that allows you to enjoy it. I'm not attracted to men at all for the most part, and even when I'll say I am I'm still mostly having fun with the idea. I'm just not loyal to my "team".

I joke around about how I'd go gay for Chris Evans, and that's true, not true, kinda true, whatever true, I don't even know. But I'd still give it a shot and probably still consider myself straight, or maybe I'd turn my whole idea of my sexuality in a blender. I don't know. I probably still wouldn't have much desire to have sex with the vast majority of men. Chris Evans is simply a treasure for the bicurious.

But the point is for me that gay, straight, LGBT, whatever the **** doesn't have to be a specific spot you have to stand on. It's not even a spectrum to me. It's just whatever the hell it means to me. To some people it means something concrete, to some people it doesn't, and to some people it might even mean nothing.

But no matter what it means it's an insult to my sexuality that I should be expected to put a label on it for any of your benefit.

Cuthbert 08-10-2018 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1985620)
Yeah I'm basically straight, but I'll differentiate that from 100% straight. I've had sexual relations with a guy and I enjoyed it more or less cause it was kind of fun. You don't have to be gay or even bi to enjoy aspects of homosexual sex, you just have to be open minded I guess and have something to you that allows you to enjoy it. I'm not attracted to men at all for the most part, and even when I'll say I am I'm still mostly having fun with the idea. I'm just not loyal to my "team".

I joke around about how I'd go gay for Chris Evans, and that's true, not true, kinda true, whatever true, I don't even know. But I'd still give it a shot and probably still consider myself straight, or maybe I'd turn my whole idea of my sexuality in a blender. I don't know. I probably still wouldn't have much desire to have sex with the vast majority of men. Chris Evans is simply a treasure for the bicurious.

But the point is for me that gay, straight, LGBT, whatever the **** doesn't have to be a specific spot you have to stand on. It's not even a spectrum to me. It's just whatever the hell it means to me. To some people it means something concrete, to some people it doesn't, and to some people it might even mean nothing.

But no matter what it means it's an insult to my sexuality that I should be expected to put a label on it for any of your benefit.

Cheers.

Oriphiel 08-10-2018 05:18 PM

****, Batlord and I are pretty much the same person. Minus a couple hundred pounds, anyway.

Shine on, you crazy guymond.

Cuthbert 08-10-2018 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1985626)
****, Batlord and I are pretty much the same person. Minus a couple hundred pounds, anyway.

You must be huge mate.

Oriphiel 08-10-2018 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1985627)
You must be huge mate.

https://78.media.tumblr.com/ebf0b97f...6n11o3_400.gif

The Batlord 08-10-2018 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1985626)
****, Batlord and I are pretty much the same person. Minus a couple hundred pounds, anyway.

Shine on, you crazy guymond.

Bro if you weigh half a ton then you should see either a doctor or Maury Povich.

Oriphiel 08-10-2018 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1985630)
Bro if you weigh half a ton then you should see either a doctor or Maury Povich.

All muscle, baby

https://www.star2.com/wp-content/upl...in-770x470.jpg

The Batlord 08-10-2018 05:52 PM

Kingpin has always bothered me as a Spider-Man villain cause if one guy can lift a car then no matter how buff Kingpin is he should still get his head taken off by the other.

adidasss 08-10-2018 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1985620)
Yeah I'm basically straight, but I'll differentiate that from 100% straight. I've had sexual relations with a guy and I enjoyed it more or less cause it was kind of fun. You don't have to be gay or even bi to enjoy aspects of homosexual sex, you just have to be open minded I guess and have something to you that allows you to enjoy it. I'm not attracted to men at all for the most part, and even when I'll say I am I'm still mostly having fun with the idea. I'm just not loyal to my "team".

I joke around about how I'd go gay for Chris Evans, and that's true, not true, kinda true, whatever true, I don't even know. But I'd still give it a shot and probably still consider myself straight, or maybe I'd turn my whole idea of my sexuality in a blender. I don't know. I probably still wouldn't have much desire to have sex with the vast majority of men. Chris Evans is simply a treasure for the bicurious.

But the point is for me that gay, straight, LGBT, whatever the **** doesn't have to be a specific spot you have to stand on. It's not even a spectrum to me. It's just whatever the hell it means to me. To some people it means something concrete, to some people it doesn't, and to some people it might even mean nothing.

But no matter what it means it's an insult to my sexuality that I should be expected to put a label on it for any of your benefit.

:clap: If only more people were like this...men especially. :)

How many heterosexual men are afraid to play with their a-hole during sex because they think this means they're gay? (Although I was happy to see that Broad city was trying to bring "pegging" into the mainstream.)

I've never really given much thought to bi-curiousness, probably because women are not as casual about sex as men, but I can't say I'd throw the likes of Kim Kardashian out of bed. In this theoretical situation where a sexy woman is willing to just play a bit, I guess it could be fun to experiment. (Plus, a guy will just put it in any willing hole).

Not now though, I'm in a committed relationship. :angel: :)

The Batlord 08-10-2018 08:52 PM

Bruh, stick something up your ******* when you're jacking it and your toes will literally curl. The only problem is that you have to wash it off. But find me a girl with a strap-on or a beautiful transsexual with a nice dick and I'll spend my next few checks buying a wedding ring. A finger would be nice and all but give me butt play with some width, nawmsayin?

Homophobia isn't gonna end with straights realizing that gays are people too. They already know that. It'll end when they realize that wet friction of any kind can make them cum if they just chill the **** out. Make someone cum and they'll like you a lot more.

DwnWthVwls 08-10-2018 09:56 PM

This is strang response coming from someone who uses ***got as an insult.

The Batlord 08-10-2018 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1985719)
This is strang response coming from someone who uses ***got as an insult.

Fck y, nggr.

Chiomara 08-10-2018 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1985245)
Gender fluidity is an interesting topic. I think I remember reading a few studies awhile back that concluded that very few people are truly always 100% "straight" or "gay". And of course, there was that study that blew up everywhere that said that the majority of women are actually bisexual (can't remember if it was worldwide or just in the U.S.). But it's a complex topic with a vast amount of biological and sociological factors. Some people are pretty much born with their orientation, others find it later on in life. In the end, I guess all you can really do is let people figure everything out in their own way, without pressuring them or making assumptions (i.e., saying stuff like "I can make them straight", or "they're just faking").

I still honestly don't know my orientation, and I hate that I even feel bothered by not knowing. (We should all be more like Batlord in that regard) And I know that sexual orientation and gender identity are separate things, but my occasional gender dysphoria always seems to coincide with my sexual orientation crises. (Part of it is definitely just my OCD acting up, but they're still intertwined for some reason) I've always resented being female-- the social conditioning, the abuse, feeling like nothing but a sex object at the ripe old age of 12 (which causes you to start viewing yourself through an objectifying lens as well), the exhausting performative femininity, and the passive aggressive punishments one receives when attempting to take a break from such behaviors-- and upon realizing I wasn't straight many moons ago, there was a great feeling of relief, but also a sense of loss upon realizing how much time I wasted and how much I tortured myself trying to be the feminine ideal in order to avoid the aforementioned social punishment & harassment that would surely be thrust upon me by the small minded lecherous gremlins that tend to run rampant in small southern towns. Not that I consider myself a victim-- I helped build my own prison, I accepted it-- I made myself small & grew ever smaller as I ignored my needs for years in order to build up others who ultimately used me/wanted a mother or a pet as opposed to an equal partner.

I don't know what point I was getting at, but, it seems that most people who feel "gender fluid" and/or experience some degree of gender dysphoria are LGBT. But a lot of people in the community feel that the identity of "nonbinary" (or "genderqueer") is in fact even more limiting than the existing gender identities, with just as many unspoken restrictive rules and pressures. Of course these things are unavoidable-- within lesbian communities, for instance, it's sometimes looked down upon for two butches to date each other, so, there's always going to be some degree of unfair judgment even within supposedly inclusive and open minded communities.

I wish it didn't matter. I wish there there wasn't a need to signal one's gayness or lack thereof/conform to yet another set of ever-changing rules within the preexisting set of rules that comes along with each gender; I wish one's self-worth did not hinge upon how well and convincingly they performed their gender/sexual orientation before their chosen social group, but it often does, and many so-called liberal places are unbearably judgey and filled with insufferable gatekeepers. With each passing day I feel more and more like an androgynous alien, and it stresses me out to wonder where I'd even belong in any given town's lgbt spaces. I leap back and forth between asexuality, bisexuality and repressed lesbianism. (Especially since all the lsd i took recently basically rearranged my brain and obliterated various parts of my persona) Since I live in the south, I can't really dress how I want without risking harassment or worse. (once, my ex gf and I had a record number of three bottles thrown at our head over the course of just one evening)

I don't know. Much of this agony (and the compulsive need to perform and identify as something) is just an inevitable part of living in a society; if all were to vanish and there was no audience-- just you, unfettered and an endless black desert & the ghosts of your disappointed ancestors or whatever-- I'm sure we'd all feel much less vexed over the whole thing and just be aimless deviants in peace, but alas.

BassoonPlatoon 08-11-2018 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 1985443)
Social pressure to conform to societal expectations of relationships/family is definitely NOT comparable to the real threats of or actual violence and quotidian expressions of hate that the LGBT community has to face in most of the world. Two VERY different issues, with very different impact on the respective people. :/

It doesn't matter if they are comparable. This isn't a contest. Everyone faces problems based on their identity and there shouldn't be any minimizing that.

Rape is a threat of violence, and it is extremely prevalent in the lives of "straight people". The issues may be different, but copping out like that and pretending that everybody doesn't face something is an injustice.

The Batlord 08-11-2018 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiomara (Post 1985729)
We should all be more like Batlord in that regard

Only that regard? Eat ****.

Oriphiel 08-11-2018 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiomara (Post 1985729)
I still honestly don't know my orientation, and I hate that I even feel bothered by not knowing. (We should all be more like Batlord in that regard) And I know that sexual orientation and gender identity are separate things, but my occasional gender dysphoria always seems to coincide with my sexual orientation crises. (Part of it is definitely just my OCD acting up, but they're still intertwined for some reason) I've always resented being female-- the social conditioning, the abuse, feeling like nothing but a sex object at the ripe old age of 12 (which causes you to start viewing yourself through an objectifying lens as well), the exhausting performative femininity, and the passive aggressive punishments one receives when attempting to take a break from such behaviors-- and upon realizing I wasn't straight many moons ago, there was a great feeling of relief, but also a sense of loss upon realizing how much time I wasted and how much I tortured myself trying to be the feminine ideal in order to avoid the aforementioned social punishment & harassment that would surely be thrust upon me by the small minded lecherous gremlins that tend to run rampant in small southern towns. Not that I consider myself a victim-- I helped build my own prison, I accepted it-- I made myself small & grew ever smaller as I ignored my needs for years in order to build up others who ultimately used me/wanted a mother or a pet as opposed to an equal partner.

I don't know what point I was getting at, but, it seems that most people who feel "gender fluid" and/or experience some degree of gender dysphoria are LGBT. But a lot of people in the community feel that the identity of "nonbinary" (or "genderqueer") is in fact even more limiting than the existing gender identities, with just as many unspoken restrictive rules and pressures. Of course these things are unavoidable-- within lesbian communities, for instance, it's sometimes looked down upon for two butches to date each other, so, there's always going to be some degree of unfair judgment even within supposedly inclusive and open minded communities.

I wish it didn't matter. I wish there there wasn't a need to signal one's gayness or lack thereof/conform to yet another set of ever-changing rules within the preexisting set of rules that comes along with each gender; I wish one's self-worth did not hinge upon how well and convincingly they performed their gender/sexual orientation before their chosen social group, but it often does, and many so-called liberal places are unbearably judgey and filled with insufferable gatekeepers. With each passing day I feel more and more like an androgynous alien, and it stresses me out to wonder where I'd even belong in any given town's lgbt spaces. I leap back and forth between asexuality, bisexuality and repressed lesbianism. (Especially since all the lsd i took recently basically rearranged my brain and obliterated various parts of my persona) Since I live in the south, I can't really dress how I want without risking harassment or worse. (once, my ex gf and I had a record number of three bottles thrown at our head over the course of just one evening)

I don't know. Much of this agony (and the compulsive need to perform and identify as something) is just an inevitable part of living in a society; if all were to vanish and there was no audience-- just you, unfettered and an endless black desert & the ghosts of your disappointed ancestors or whatever-- I'm sure we'd all feel much less vexed over the whole thing and just be aimless deviants in peace, but alas.

I really haven't talked with you all that much on this forum, but I have noticed that you're kind of awesome, and if others are so hung up on roles and expectations that they can't see that, then it's their ****ing loss.

Whether you ever want to put a label on your sexuality is completely up to you, but it's more important that you're mentally and physically in a place that you find fulfilling. That place might change over time, so it's not wrong to be a sexual nomad (great name for a psych rock band right there) rather than staying in one place for the benefit of someone else.

But, yeah, it'd probably help if you moved out of the deep south. I hear Canada has lots of poutine. And AYAOTD re-runs.

Frownland 08-11-2018 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BassoonPlatoon (Post 1985748)
It doesn't matter if they are comparable. This isn't a contest. Everyone faces problems based on their identity and there shouldn't be any minimizing that.

Rape is a threat of violence, and it is extremely prevalent in the lives of "straight people". The issues may be different, but copping out like that and pretending that everybody doesn't face something is an injustice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon (Post 1984076)
https://memegenerator.net/img/instan...ght-people.jpg

where's the STRAIGHT pride parade huh????

.

Cuthbert 08-11-2018 08:27 AM

BassoonPlatoon :D

Just seen the post in the Phillies thread, cheeky :D

elphenor 08-11-2018 05:39 PM

Is Bansoon capable of a post that isn't terrible

Chiomara 08-12-2018 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1985774)
I really haven't talked with you all that much on this forum, but I have noticed that you're kind of awesome, and if others are so hung up on roles and expectations that they can't see that, then it's their ****ing loss.

Thanks. I tend to be a hermit anyway, so it's not as if I'd be in daily peril even if I allowed myself to dress like a flamboyant beacon of sin and do whatever (I'd probably need to move to New Orleans for that) -- the frustrating part is just the churning inner turmoil.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1985774)
Whether you ever want to put a label on your sexuality is completely up to you, but it's more important that you're mentally and physically in a place that you find fulfilling. That place might change over time, so it's not wrong to be a sexual nomad (great name for a psych rock band right there) rather than staying in one place for the benefit of someone else.

But, yeah, it'd probably help if you moved out of the deep south. I hear Canada has lots of poutine. And AYAOTD re-runs.

I am totally open to living in someone's shed/basement/attic in Canada or wherever. My next job won't even be paying me enough to live off of, so I'm not attached to anything here at all whatsoever. (But it's kind of hard to plan a move when you want to bring your best friend who happens to have a very sensitive blind cat that needs to be considered)

On the topic of AYAOTD, I still haven't made it past the end of season 4/season 5 because it is so agonizingly, brazenly awful (and not in a fun way like the first two seasons)

Trollheart 08-12-2018 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiomara (Post 1986137)
Thanks. I tend to be a hermit anyway, so it's not as if I'd be in daily peril even if I allowed myself to dress like a flamboyant beacon of sin and do whatever (I'd probably need to move to New Orleans for that) -- the frustrating part is just the churning inner turmoil.

:love:
Quote:

I am totally open to living in someone's shed/basement/attic in Canada or wherever. My next job won't even be paying me enough to live off of, so I'm not attached to anything here at all whatsoever. (But it's kind of hard to plan a move when you want to bring your best friend who happens to have a very sensitive blind cat that needs to be considered)

Aw, poor cat. Ritchie went blind last year and within a few days had fallen from the top of the stairs - and I DON'T mean DOWN the stairs. He must have been walking towards the bannister and then suddenly he's in the air and dropping at an alarming rate to hit the telephone table hard. Poor guy. That was no life for him. He's in a better place now.

Fair play to your friend: I imagine looking after a blind cat is a fulltime job.

grindy 08-12-2018 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1985687)
Bruh, stick something up your ******* when you're jacking it and your toes will literally curl. The only problem is that you have to wash it off. But find me a girl with a strap-on or a beautiful transsexual with a nice dick and I'll spend my next few checks buying a wedding ring. A finger would be nice and all but give me butt play with some width, nawmsayin?

Homophobia isn't gonna end with straights realizing that gays are people too. They already know that. It'll end when they realize that wet friction of any kind can make them cum if they just chill the **** out. Make someone cum and they'll like you a lot more.

I kinda grew out of enjoying stuff up my butt. And big stuff always scared me anyway.

The Batlord 08-12-2018 02:27 PM

So if you did a 69 position where you washed your girlfriend's feet while she fingered your butthole you're saying you wouldn't like it?

grindy 08-12-2018 02:33 PM

Some playing around on the outside is great but I genuinely stopped enjoying stuff in there. I myself was surprised when I realized that. I must be half mormon or something.

Chiomara 08-12-2018 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1986171)
:love:


Aw, poor cat. Ritchie went blind last year and within a few days had fallen from the top of the stairs - and I DON'T mean DOWN the stairs. He must have been walking towards the bannister and then suddenly he's in the air and dropping at an alarming rate to hit the telephone table hard. Poor guy. That was no life for him. He's in a better place now.

Fair play to your friend: I imagine looking after a blind cat is a fulltime job.

Oh no, poor dear :c fortunately my friend's cat does not live in a two-story house; she's also pretty independent and manages fine for the most part, however, I'd imagine having adjust to a new place with an additional person (she's a solitary, one-person kitty) could be stressful for her.

Trollheart 08-12-2018 02:48 PM

The upsetting thing is, as soon as the vet told me Ritchie was blind, I right away thought I cant do this. I don't want to lose him, but I'm already looking after my sister full time, and we have two other cats, neither of which treated him with any sensitivity when they realised he couldn't see. They hissed at him, punched him etc. Really sad. But I knew I couldn't take on the extra responsibility, so when he fell I kind of used that as an excuse to say to Karen, look, he can't even see and this is going to keep happening. We have to make a decision.

I mean, it was all true, but I feel like a scumbag for kind of almost manipulating her into agreeing. :(

Cuthbert 08-12-2018 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1985905)
Is Bansoon capable of a post that isn't terrible

Yes, go and check the cheek he gave Janszoon in the Phillies thread :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1986230)
I kinda grew out of enjoying stuff up my butt. And big stuff always scared me anyway.

I am going to try some bum action soon. It has been recommended to me by a friend. If I don't like it no harm done. Nothing to lose.

The Batlord 08-12-2018 03:19 PM

All it takes is a finger while jacking it to take it to the next level.

elphenor 08-12-2018 03:27 PM

The Expert steps in

Cuthbert 08-12-2018 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1986283)
All it takes is a finger while jacking it to take it to the next level.

So I've heard. Will give it a try.

The Batlord 08-12-2018 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1986284)
The Expert steps in

It doesn't take an expert to recognize a better orgasm.

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1986288)
So I've heard. Will give it a try.

Update requested.

https://img.mp.itc.cn/q_70,c_zoom,w_...96c6a0b_th.jpg

elphenor 08-12-2018 03:33 PM

I'm just saying if I were to consult someone on self-love

Cuthbert 08-12-2018 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1986289)
Update requested.

Well I haven't done it now obviously. I'll try it next weekend.

grindy 08-12-2018 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1986288)
So I've heard. Will give it a try.

How have you never tried it?
I went ****ing nuts when I discovered masturbation and was trying to spice it up as a teenager.

The Batlord 08-12-2018 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1986290)
I'm just saying if I were to consult someone on self-love

Bruh I've never even tried a pocket pussy so you should look elsewhere. I'm tempted though. Some of that **** looks sexy in its abhorrence.

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1986291)
Well I haven't done it now obviously. I'll try it next weekend.

I'm just saying eventually. A nigga needs to know so I can give dap.

Cuthbert 08-12-2018 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1986292)
How have you never tried it?
I went ****ing nuts when I discovered masturbation and was trying to spice it up as a teenager.

I don't know tbh. Just never thought to. Seems to be getting rave reviews on here...


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