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Chula Vista 08-12-2018 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1985620)
No matter what it means, it's an insult to my sexuality that I should be expected to put a label on it for any of your benefit.

A-f*cken-men.

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Originally Posted by Chiomara (Post 1985729)
I still honestly don't know my orientation, and I hate that I even feel bothered by not knowing.

Just feel comfortable with yourself. As long as you are happy, the world around you is happy.

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1986394)
I've been struggling with asexual feelings since everything went to **** with that girl some of you know about.

Don't shut the door. Keep a very WIDE open mind.

The Batlord 08-12-2018 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1986408)
A-f ucken-men. One of the reasons I vote democrat. Stay the **** out of my bedroom

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Trollheart 08-12-2018 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 1986383)
Homo sapiens - British, with gorgeous posh accents, one of the hosts is Will Young who is probably not so familiar outside of the UK, I don't really like his music (apart from that one dancey album) but I discovered through this podcast that he is HI-LARIOUS!

I don't particularly like the guy, but he can act.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1986406)
I think that's actually the point. He's not supposed to care about anything except eating and they're willing to be trans about it.

Trans fat?

BassoonPlatoon 08-12-2018 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1985448)
It's pretty clear that adidass and I were talking about more resilience than average, not that LGBT are the only people with resilience at all. No offense, but I honestly didn't think anyone would be stupid enough to interpret it that way.

That was uncalled for. I was making a completely separate point that was not meant to be an interpretation of anything you said. Even if it was, you can't know that. LGBT people go through a lot, their resilience will vary just like anyone else's. People are different and their sexual orientation does not play much of a factor in how they handle abuse. But, yes, if LGBT people can survive what they go through, then they do come out all the better for it. But, it's a struggle.

Yeah, 'cause LGBT people are never pressured by people into following those norms and gender roles. And then **** on mercilessly when they refuse to.

But here's a question: How often do straight people face violence due to their orientation, or these cultural pressures? And I'm not talking about the occasional fist fight over a girl/guy that you like. I'm talking serious and constant hostility with intent to maim both physically and psychologically.

Have you ever been called a *** by your dad? Had **** thrown at you as you try to walk/bike anywhere? Get jumped so often that you have to learn how to kick ass just to not get curb stumped by homophobes?

For ****s sake, it's still legal for the parents of LGBT teenagers to send them to "scared straight" camps, where they're starved and basically tortured until they recant. Look it up, that ****'s terrifying.

Btw, unless you're still in high school, pretty much nobody gives a **** if you have female friends, and whether or not you're having sex with them. Once you become an adult, you pretty much just have to deal with the terrible pressure of the occasional phone call from your grandparents when they ask when they will finally get grandchildren to dote over. However, being LGBT makes you a target for life. I could post news stories about LGBT clubs being barred and set on fire, or LGBT people being forced into concentration camps in Nazi Germany, or a whole bunch of stories just this past month about people being targeted for their orientation, but tbh, you can do your own research. That is, if you actually care about the issue.

That is not what I am saying. All I mean is that everyone goes through stupid societal BS that really does not need to play a huge factor in their lives, but does anyway.

Not as often, but that doesn't mean it isn't there. The people who are confused for not being straight because they do not match the societal expectations to a T are treated the same as LGBT people. Straight people who are still not sure of their sexuality and identity cannot even think about seeing what they like because they will automatically become someone different to other straight people. I don't even really like straight people, I'm not even straight, but the second we start pretending like everyone doesn't have their own problems they are dealing with is the second we lose the ability to compromise with others. Straight people used to catch a beating for wanting a relationship with someone outside their race, sometimes race still plays a part in deciding who a straight person can date, and the threat of violence can come with that too.

I like to think that that word has evolved beyond strictly referring to gay people and has done so for years now at least. Straight people are definitely seen as more creepy, and can be subject to random assaults because they were in the vicinity of somebody who was uncomfortable with them being there. Obviously, the threat of violence against the LGBT community is far more prevalent, but that isn't the point I am making or standing against.

The real thing here is that we should not give in to a gay vs straight divide, no matter how much even I would like that. There will always be straight people, which means that we should not push them away by ignoring some of the things that they could be dealing with on a daily basis, especially straight girls (or even girls who aren't straight that are not "accepted" by straight guys and raped).

Again, not true. Everybody has different experiences. They literally made a film entitled The 40-Year old Virgin, and there are plenty of other films about straight guys and their obsession with sex. Literally every adult male interaction I have ever seen in some revolves around sex, talking about sex, thinking about sex, asking about sex, you name it. There is a wonderful documentary called The Mask You Live In that I highly recommend on this topic. I don't need to do my own research, you assuming otherwise is a problem uniquely your own. Even if people were ever attacked for being straight, not saying they are, but the news would never publish that because it isn't sensational it wouldn't be as noteworthy since straights are the majority. Not to mention it would cast straight people in a bad light. I care about every issue. I don't think you have taken enough time to appreciate who I am as a person to make such statements.

Long winded point later; all I am saying is not all straight people deserved to be vilified, and not all of them enjoy the treatment that they get from society. Which is not all it's cracked up to be either.

The Batlord 08-12-2018 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BassoonPlatoon (Post 1986418)
I like to think that that word has evolved beyond strictly referring to gay people and has done so for years now at least. Straight people are definitely seen as more creepy, and can be subject to random assaults because they were in the vicinity of somebody who was uncomfortable with them being there. Obviously, the threat of violence against the LGBT community is far more prevalent, but that isn't the point I am making or standing against.

What the **** are you talking about?

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Long winded point later; all I am saying is not all straight people deserved to be vilified, and not all of them enjoy the treatment that they get from society. Which is not all it's cracked up to be either.
Yeah man stop hating straight people. That's something we can all get behind, just like ***s who get behind other ***s and have hardcore gay butt sex.

Trollheart 08-12-2018 08:35 PM

Don't hate the straight!
Oh and ALM, of course.

:rolleyes:

Lucem Ferre 08-12-2018 08:39 PM

There was a cat at my friend's grandma's house (she had a lot of cats, it was inhumane, a lot of procreation) that was blind and I named him Ray Charles. He took care of himself real well. Awesome cat too. None of the other cats like him though. I remember one time we were changing the litter box and he jumps in the middle to take a big nasty **** as we did it. So that made him awesome because he was like one of the only cats to use a litter box. And he was blind at that. He also went blind because another cat named Al ripped his eyes out when he was a kitten. Cats are ruthless. I don't know what this has to do with being gay though.

Trollheart 08-12-2018 08:40 PM

I think the question in all our minds is: could he play the piano?

Lucem Ferre 08-12-2018 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1986436)
I think the question in all our minds is: could he play the piano?

I'm sure he could if he had the chance. Just wouldn't be good at it.

Trollheart 08-12-2018 08:50 PM

So what you're saying is that he's a player.

BassoonPlatoon 08-12-2018 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1986425)
What the **** are you talking about?



Yeah man stop hating straight people. That's something we can all get behind, just like ***s who get behind other ***s and have hardcore gay butt sex.

I do not think I follow you. I do not think these responses are warranted based on anything I said.

Chula Vista 08-12-2018 11:18 PM

Boy + Girl = Happy :love:

Boy + Boy = Happy :love:

Girl + Girl = Happy :love:

Bat + A stray dog = :jailed:

DwnWthVwls 08-13-2018 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1986463)
Bat + A stray dog = :jailed:

All animals deserve love. This doesn't seem fair.

Oriphiel 08-13-2018 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiomara (Post 1986137)
Thanks. I tend to be a hermit anyway, so it's not as if I'd be in daily peril even if I allowed myself to dress like a flamboyant beacon of sin and do whatever (I'd probably need to move to New Orleans for that) -- the frustrating part is just the churning inner turmoil.

I am totally open to living in someone's shed/basement/attic in Canada or wherever. My next job won't even be paying me enough to live off of, so I'm not attached to anything here at all whatsoever. (But it's kind of hard to plan a move when you want to bring your best friend who happens to have a very sensitive blind cat that needs to be considered)

On the topic of AYAOTD, I still haven't made it past the end of season 4/season 5 because it is so agonizingly, brazenly awful (and not in a fun way like the first two seasons)

Now I'm just imagining you moving up north and living above a bakery with a talking pet moose, like a Canadian version of Kiki's Delivery Service.

Worst case scenario, you and your friend could probably buy an old RV, though I don't know how well the cat would adjust to it. I work at a campground, and we get a lot of people between jobs who live out of vehicles. We even used to let one or two stay for free every season, until one lady stole a bunch of ****.

And let me just say, inner turmoil ****ing sucks. It's like, you finally manage to get away from people for five seconds, and yet they keep bouncing around in your head anyway. Should charge those ****ers rent. And then self loathing shows up, and is like "Yo, we havin' a party?" and invites his buds, paralyzing fear and crippling self doubt. And then you're awake at 2:00 A.M., writing a story about a guy who finds out that all his **** is being stolen by invisible goblins, and surfing through the selection of novelty cups on Amazon in another tab. And besides the type of inner turmoil where you feel like forcibly clawing bad memories out of your brain, there's also the kind where you're just ****ing done with the world, and want to practice Hokuto Shinken in a cave hidden behind a waterfall. **** sucks.

Btw, I've seen every single episode of AYAOTD, even the meh ones, and I regret nothing.

DwnWthVwls 08-13-2018 06:51 AM

I see you as more of a pterodactyl than a bat.

Psy-Fi 08-13-2018 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1986497)
I see you as more of a pterodactyl than a bat.


adidasss 08-13-2018 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1986417)
I don't particularly like the guy, but he can act.


Trans fat?

I'd just like to say that I was expecting to see Will Young acting in that clip, so I'd like my minute and a half back please...:/

Is this what you do? Is that why your nick is trollheart? Have I been trollhearted??

Cuthbert 08-13-2018 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 1986500)
I'd just like to say that I was expecting to see Will Young acting in that clip, so I'd like my minute and a half back please...:/

Is this what you do? Is that why your nick is trollheart? Have I been trollhearted??

I think he'd better leave right now.

Trollheart 08-13-2018 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1986485)
Now I'm just imagining you moving up north and living above a bakery with a talking pet moose, like a Canadian version of Kiki's Delivery Service.

You want Netflix's email?
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Should charge those ****ers rent. And then self loathing shows up, and is like "Yo, we havin' a party?" and invites his buds, paralyzing fear and crippling self doubt.
See, this is why you're a natural writer and why I love you.
But
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And then you're awake at 2:00 A.M., writing a story about a guy who finds out that all his **** is being stolen by invisible goblins
I'm stealing this. :laughing:
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1986494)
I actually think its more akin to the saying "marry and you will regret it, don't marry and you will regret that too!"

only the Bat and dog come out satisfied as nature didn't play the cruel trick of letting them consider it

Also bats are just cool, I'd like to be a bat thanks

I'm assuming he meant our Bat ie Batty?
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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 1986500)
I'd just like to say that I was expecting to see Will Young acting in that clip, so I'd like my minute and a half back please...:/

Is this what you do? Is that why your nick is trollheart? Have I been trollhearted??

Sorry; it was just an example to show you that the show exists and that you should really watch it. He acts pretty well. I have to admit I didn't run it through to see if he was actually in it.

Despite my name, I actually don't troll. Ask anyone. Except that guy.
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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1986504)
I think he'd better leave right now.

:clap: :laughing:

Oriphiel 08-13-2018 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1986573)
See, this is why you're a natural writer and why I love you.

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Trollheart 08-13-2018 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1986691)

Yeah but you're mine. :love:

Cuthbert 08-19-2018 05:37 PM

I guess this is the right thread.

Football's first ever transgender referee takes to the pitch for first time under new identity

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Football’s only transgender referee will take to the pitch on Sunday afternoon for the first time under her new identity.

Lucy Clark, 46, has been known as Nick in the world of soccer for years and admits being nervous about fans’ reaction tomorrow.

But she tells the Sunday Mirror: “I hope the world accepts me for the person I am.”
She says she's thick skinned and I think that's great because she will need it.

adidasss 08-19-2018 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1988861)
I guess this is the right thread.

Football's first ever transgender referee takes to the pitch for first time under new identity



She says she's thick skinned and I think that's great because she will need it.

Indeed.

Still waiting on that first openly gay footballer in the top leagues.

[MERIT] 08-19-2018 06:06 PM

I read that the NFL will debut a gay male cheerleader.

Cuthbert 08-19-2018 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 1988865)
Indeed.

Still waiting on that first openly gay footballer in the top leagues.

I think Justin Fashanu may have been the last one to come out still playing. Recently one of our players (see sig) came out after retirement and everyone was supportive but it is much more accepting now than it was in 1990 when Fashanu came out.

Gareth Thomas came out in Rugby. There was a German football agent a few years ago who said the German team was "a bunch of gays", and there are loads of openly gay female footballers. I don't know why there aren't any openly gay players at the top level in men's football tbh.

Justthefacts 08-19-2018 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1988866)
I read that the NFL will debut a gay male cheerleader.

All male cheerleaders are gay that's redundant.

[MERIT] 08-19-2018 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Justthefacts (Post 1988873)
All male cheerleaders are gay that's redundant.

I dunno man. Being a male surrounded by all females may be a good ploy to get some pussy.

adidasss 08-30-2018 07:22 AM

https://i.imgur.com/zBijkD2.png

Big thumps up for Spotify!

YorkeDaddy 08-30-2018 07:33 AM

Honestly though why does Spotify even need to know what gender you identify as? It’s a music streaming service lol

MicShazam 08-30-2018 07:45 AM

Probably tracking user listening habits for marketing purposes.

YorkeDaddy 08-30-2018 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1992597)
Probably tracking user listening habits for marketing purposes.

Ugh

adidasss 09-06-2018 12:55 AM

Indian supreme court decriminalises homosexuality

YASSSSSS!!!

The Batlord 09-06-2018 01:09 AM

God damn, India. I never know how to reconcile some of the terrible **** I hear out of India with how every Indian actually from India I've ever met is the nicest person in the world.

grindy 09-06-2018 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 66Sexy (Post 1994629)
God damn, India. I never know how to reconcile some of the terrible **** I hear out of India with how every Indian actually from India I've ever met is the nicest person in the world.

Suspiciously nice...

[MERIT] 09-06-2018 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 1994617)

Criminalizing a consenting adult's sexual preference should have never been a law in the first place!

adidasss 09-06-2018 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1994645)
Criminalizing a consenting adult's sexual preference should have never been a law in the first place!


How Britain’s colonial legacy still affects LGBT politics around the world

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Theresa May, urged Commonwealth nations to reform existing anti-gay legislation held over from British colonial rule. And while stopping short of a formal apology, she used her speech to explicitly acknowledge Britian’s responsibility: “As the United Kingdom’s prime minister, I deeply regret both the fact that such laws were introduced and the legacy of discrimination, violence and death that persists today.”
Thanks, Britain!

Blarobbarg 09-20-2018 04:46 PM

How many musicians from the 50’s or earlier were queer that we you know of?

The first that comes to mind for me is Sister Rosetta Tharpe, one of the progenitors of rock music. She played gospel music with an electric guitar, and was an excellent artist. There is also a great deal of evidence that she was lesbian, or at least bisexual.

Any others out there? Any genre is great.

Cuthbert 09-20-2018 05:13 PM

Little Richard is an obvious one.

Frownland 09-20-2018 05:15 PM

John Cage and dancer/frequent collaborator Merce Cunningham were lovers.

Cuthbert 03-29-2019 03:35 AM

LGBT people 'never felt more vulnerable' in Birmingham

Sad.


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