The queer corner

Ayn Marx · 06-18-2022, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Celladorina

After what happened at the pride parade (mentioned in previous posts), I spoke to my mom about it and said that even living in New Zealand I fear going out holding hands with a girlfriend as there are so problematic people out there who have literally beaten couples (regardless of their gender) over it.

On another note, I am genderfluid and go by she/her/they. I present as very feminine but want people to take my genderfluidness seriously. I explain my pronouns but it goes over people's heads. Anyone got any advice regarding this?

Sorry to be of little help other than to suggest many of those you’d like to comprehend your gender fluidity would require years of psychotherapy to even begin to understand. The trick is to learn who you can be open with and who the mere act of being yourself would place you in danger.

As to the bashers many psychotherapists who’ve had ‘queer bashers’ referred to them by the courts learn the majority are repressing their own ambiguous sexual identity.

jadis · 06-18-2022, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayn Marx

We sure weren’t afraid of sex but police entrapment and gay bashing were a constant threat. Still are in many parts of the world.

Btw Melbourne is today known as one of the most liberal cities in the world but I wonder if that's a relatively new thing, say of the past couple of decades? Did it have a reputation as bohemian and open-minded in the 1980-90s?

**Marie Monday** · 06-18-2022, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Celladorina

After what happened at the pride parade (mentioned in previous posts), I spoke to my mom about it and said that even living in New Zealand I fear going out holding hands with a girlfriend as there are so problematic people out there who have literally beaten couples (regardless of their gender) over it.

On another note, I am genderfluid and go by she/her/they. I present as very feminine but want people to take my genderfluidness seriously. I explain my pronouns but it goes over people's heads. Anyone got any advice regarding this?

Oh ok! I don't really have advice unfortunately. I agree with what Charles says, people like to think in stupid boxes. And also related to what Ayn Marx says, people don't like these ideas of fluidity because acknowledging that may lead to scary introspection. At least you spread awareness

Ayn Marx · 06-18-2022, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jadis

Btw Melbourne is today known as one of the most liberal cities in the world but I wonder if that's a relatively new thing, say of the past couple of decades? Did it have a reputation as bohemian and open-minded in the 1980-90s?

Bohemia was alive and well in Melbourne long before the general population accepted it. I have fond memories of Saturday night/Sunday mornings in the 1970s attending The Supper Club in Toorak Rd, Sth Yarra, where from midnight European & ’Art’ movies were shown. Horrible coffee, nasty cheese and sometimes seriously horrible wine was provided to an audience made up of everything from screaming queens, bikies, artists, Dy*es, academics, poets etc, all groups of ‘outsiders’ who sadly today hardly ever mix.
Down the road was The Devil’s Inn catering to the gay crowd, and our followers, where horrible coffee was also served along with very nasty toasted (read burnt) raisin bread . The music was loud with hysterical queens dancing on tables. At closing time we'd often invite attendees home to our flat nearby where the coffee was better and the sex was - - - -well, I’ll leave that to your foetid imaginations.

Why the hell does the idiot software here forbid us typing ‘dyk*s’ ?

Guybrush · 06-18-2022, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayn Marx

Why the hell does the idiot software here forbid us typing ‘dyk*s’ ?

I tried to write the name of Steely Dan's frontman yesterday and it came out as Donald ***en. That one surprised me.

Melbourne in the 70s sounds like fun.

Ayn Marx · 06-19-2022, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Guybrush

I tried to write the name of Steely Dan's frontman yesterday and it came out as Donald ***en. That one surprised me.

Melbourne in the 70s sounds like fun.

It was fun if you knew how to make it and where to look for it. For the vast majority is was mindless, suburban hell. We even had a nasty Europeans only immigration policy known as ’The White Australia’ policy.

Ayn Marx · 06-19-2022, 01:49 AM

I get some strange emails with strange links but this one came from I don’t know who, listed as not having a return address. Maybe it came from one of those naughty little pixies on Music Banter’s rock section, or maybe from Queer Corner ?

https://rocknheavy.net/who-has-the-b...k-6217ec3e5e27

Anyhow, here’s my favourite. He could have parked his boots under my bed any day even if, as I suspect, that thing was airbrushed in. .

Ayn Marx · 06-19-2022, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Guybrush

I tried to write the name of Steely Dan's frontman yesterday and it came out as Donald ***en. That one surprised me.

Melbourne in the 70s sounds like fun.

Often wonder if internet forum moderaters make up their own list of ’naughty words’ or do they buy in a P.P.P.L. (Pre Packaged Puritan List) ?

Ayn Marx · 06-19-2022, 05:36 PM

Not sure what this one’s about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ibj87fwRaM

but it appears to have been filmed in part at the same location as

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t07hF_GXds

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 06-19-2022, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Tbh I think trans men and women who... "commit" to their "chosen" gender are just going to get more traction at least with non-psychos for the same reason bisexuals aren't taken as seriously as straight up homosexuals. Providing a clear distinction helps to crystallize in people's minds an alternative. So basically not being taken as seriously is probably just going to happen.

Not really advice just a perspective.

Thanks, I actually appreciate the honest perspective. It's not the end of the world if people don't understand it.

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Originally Posted by Ayn Marx

Sorry to be of little help other than to suggest many of those you’d like to comprehend your gender fluidity would require years of psychotherapy to even begin to understand. The trick is to learn who you can be open with and who the mere act of being yourself would place you in danger.

As to the bashers many psychotherapists who’ve had ‘queer bashers’ referred to them by the courts learn the majority are repressing their own ambiguous sexual identity.

That's true, as they think of us as having body dysphoria so it would take a long time for them to understand what gender fluidity is. I certainly believe the 'anti gay' rhetoric is absolutely projecting their own sexual desires.

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday

Oh ok! I don't really have advice unfortunately. I agree with what Charles says, people like to think in stupid boxes. And also related to what Ayn Marx says, people don't like these ideas of fluidity because acknowledging that may lead to scary introspection. At least you spread awareness

As the saying goes, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink lol.

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Ayn Marx Music Addict Join Date: May 2022 Location: Sometimes Posts: 552	I get some strange emails with strange links but this one came from I don’t know who, listed as not having a return address. Maybe it came from one of those naughty little pixies on Music Banter’s rock section, or maybe from Queer Corner ? https://rocknheavy.net/who-has-the-b...k-6217ec3e5e27 Anyhow, here’s my favourite. He could have parked his boots under my bed any day even if, as I suspect, that thing was airbrushed in. . Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Ayn Marx; 06-19-2022 at 02:12 AM.

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Ayn Marx Music Addict Join Date: May 2022 Location: Sometimes Posts: 552	Not sure what this one’s about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ibj87fwRaM but it appears to have been filmed in part at the same location as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t07hF_GXds