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Old 04-07-2013, 09:40 PM   #13091 (permalink)
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Honestly, I agree with several of the rankings that you just mentioned. The Shawshank Redemption and Memento specifically are great movies and literally every single film you listed is far superior to American History X, which I've always considered to be a great Ed Norton performance wrapped in a black and white Lifetime original movie.
Shawshank suffers from being on AMC every other day but it's one of the more perfect screenplays you'll see and Memento just changed the game on how to film a movie. I agree. They deserve their place.
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:50 PM   #13092 (permalink)
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Shawshank suffers from being on AMC every other day but it's one of the more perfect screenplays you'll see and Memento just changed the game on how to film a movie. I agree. They deserve their place.
It's funny how Shawshank's fortunes have changed. I remember when it came out I wanted to see it but missed it because it didn't do well and disappeared from theaters quickly. I eventually caught it a couple years later and loved it, then watched over time as it very slowly transformed from being this incredibly underrated and ignored movie into being a movie that everybody loved. It's kind of amazing that it's now topping lists and being played to death on cable.
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Old 04-07-2013, 10:01 PM   #13093 (permalink)
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I agree with you but there are also some classic films on there that certainly aren't on there for being "popular". Most of them are older films but some great foreign films of the last ten years are on there. It's a flawed list that gets a few things right but wrong things VERY WRONG. Is every Nolan movie on that list? I love his work but really? Dark Knight and Memento and that should be all.
As far as Nolan, I'd also say that Inception kind of earned its place. It was a blockbuster, but there was certainly a great deal more going on than your run of the mill blockbuster action-packed flick. It managed to be extremely popular, and make the average movie patron think at the same time. I think that it was important in that way, even if there are way better movies that are underlauded. Dark Knight and Memento also deserve to be on the list, but Dark Knight should not be as high as it is. It's just not top 10 material.

And, although I actually preferred the characters and story of Dark Knight Rises to its predecessors, I don't think it was the superior film, or as important in the grand scheme of things. Its being above American Beauty, Vertigo, Taxi Driver, A Clockwork Orange, and Amelie just doesn't sit right with me.

And All About Eve barely being in the top 100 with all of the other fluff on the list makes me pretty ****ing irritated with other peoples' inability to watch much of anything that came out after 1980 or so unless it's played to death on TV.
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As far as Nolan, I'd also say that Inception kind of earned its place. It was a blockbuster, but there was certainly a great deal more going on than your run of the mill blockbuster action-packed flick. It managed to be extremely popular, and make the average movie patron think at the same time. I think that it was important in that way, even if there are way better movies that are underlauded. Dark Knight and Memento also deserve to be on the list, but Dark Knight should not be as high as it is. It's just not top 10 material.

And, although I actually preferred the characters and story of Dark Knight Rises to its predecessors, I don't think it was the superior film, or as important in the grand scheme of things. Its being above American Beauty, Vertigo, Taxi Driver, A Clockwork Orange, and Amelie just doesn't sit right with me.
Amelie should probably be in the top 10 imo.
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The Incredible Burt Wonderstone (2013)

Wasn't my ideal choice for a movie, but I was outvoted, and one of my friends didn't want to see The Evil Dead. It was pretty pedestrian and I managed to figure out most of the jokes and plot points before they happened, but it was still entertaining in one of those mundane kind of way. Jim Carrey was pretty funny though, I have to admit.
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Amelie should probably be in the top 10 imo.
Definitely. I watched it on a whim, and was completely awestruck. I spent months after recommending it to every single person I knew, if they so much as uttered the word, "movie."

"Movie?! Movie, eh?! Have you seen Amelie? Watch it. Right now."
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As far as Nolan, I'd also say that Inception kind of earned its place. It was a blockbuster, but there was certainly a great deal more going on than your run of the mill blockbuster action-packed flick. It managed to be extremely popular, and make the average movie patron think at the same time. I think that it was important in that way, even if there are way better movies that are underlauded.
Everyone says this but I completely disagree. The movie wasn't difficult to understand if you just pay attention to the dialogue, the characters literally spell everything out to you. I don't think I've ever seen a movie with that much exposition before.

All I had to do was type in Inception exposition on Youtube, and it comes up with a video that just shows Ariadne asking questions about the logic of Inception and the heist plan.

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It's a good movie, but it really isn't that difficult to understand if you can pay attention. People just say it is because they've never watched a difficult film before.
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Everyone says this but I completely disagree. The movie wasn't difficult to understand if you just pay attention to the dialogue, the characters literally spell everything out to you. I don't think I've ever seen a movie with that much exposition before.

All I had to do was type in Inception exposition on Youtube, and it comes up with a video that just shows Ariadne asking questions about the logic of Inception and the heist plan.

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It's a good movie, but it really isn't that difficult to understand if you can pay attention. People just say it is because they've never watched a difficult film before.
No, it's really not difficult, but there's seriously more depth and thought than your run-of-the-mill high-grossing film. It requires attention be paid, whereas I could comfortably chat through and barely pay attention to just about any other high grossing film without losing or missing anything.
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I guess, but it didn't require a whole lot of mental involvement from me in terms of piecing the plot together. The only really confusing part was the very beginning, trying to figure out what's going on.
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No, but I'm just saying. Your average movie-goer, who could be perfectly contented with "The Wedding Planner," "Avatar," "Titanic," - for them to actually pay money for and watch a film that actually asks them to pay attention is a feat.
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