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Old 02-26-2009, 03:40 PM   #2591 (permalink)
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been meaning to see this for time. Really clever if slightly dated PG-13 espionage thriller, great cast. Whenever it threatened to be dragged down in my estimation by that nagging daytime television feeling it charmed me with it's script. It was just good old-fashioned twists, turns and tension and it has made me appreciate Robert Redford. Recognized River Phoenix in a bit part and decided to investigate further...



... I really ought to have seen this earlier. Gus Van Sant has done some real pap, but this was better than 'Drugstore Cowboy', 'Good Will Hunting' and 'Gerry' put together. It follows Phoenix's character Mike, a narcoleptic hustler; but the second act randomly detours into Scott's (Reeves in full wood mode) story, which as is turns out is an adaptation of Henry IV, which I've never read, but this injected some lyricism and intrigue into the narrative which was much appreciated. Who doesn't love Shakespeare?
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Nah. My Own Private Idaho is good. But I guess it was just too much of a disorienting experience for me to consider it great.

Of course a lot of Van Sants non hollywood films can be pretty disorienting. But his somber style worked much better with Drugstore Cowboy and Elephant, they weren't as pretentious.

Van Sant is a very talented director, but when he's at his worst.



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Old 02-26-2009, 03:54 PM   #2592 (permalink)
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Nah. My Own Private Idaho is good. But I guess it was just too much of a disorienting experience for me to consider it great.

Of course a lot of Van Sants non hollywood films can be pretty disorienting. But his somber style worked much better with Drugstore Cowboy and Elephant, they weren't as pretentious.

Van Sant is a very talented director, but when he's at his worst.



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are you sh*tting me? I loved Drugstore Cowboy until f*cking Burroughs turns up, the only possible reason for having him there was pretentiousness; not to mention Elephant (Elephant, Gerry and Last Days seem to be of their own stylistic canon) which just bleeds contrived controversy. alliteration not intended. That's just my opinion though, I was sucked in to Private Idaho fully aware that I was watching a non-Hollywood Van Sant film and half-expecting to hate it.. I would have been much more confused had I not checked wikipedia about it first, however.
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I think it's pretty much the pinnacle of his work. Drugstore cowboy was just bland, Elephant owes a great deal of its style to Alan Clarke's original short but fails to achieve the same impact and Paranoid park was beautiful to look at but completely ruined by the amateur performances (I guess I place too much importance on acting, one of the reasons why I absolutely hate all but one Bresson film that I've seen). I've never bothered with Gerry and Last days...:\

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Campy, sexual and sorta rough, like all Fassbinder's films, but not without its good sides. It was a trip to see it at the theater though...6/10


OH, forgot to mention apropos Phoenix's sexyness, I always think of him when I see Emile Hirsch for some reason, they both have that natural, James Dean-like sexual vibe...
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Hancock.

I would have loved to have seen the original script filmed. This wasn't awful but it wasn't very good either.
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I would have loved to have seen the original script filmed. This wasn't awful but it wasn't very good either.
Your link's not working (and good luck making it work with the word "cock" in it) but I see from the URL that you're talking about Hancock. I'm totally with you. It wasn't a bad movie but it could've been a lot better. It would've made for a lot better movie if they pushed the premise further for one thing.
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I was disappointed when I heard the reviews for Hancock because the previews looked so sick.
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are you sh*tting me? I loved Drugstore Cowboy until f*cking Burroughs turns up, the only possible reason for having him there was pretentiousness; not to mention Elephant (Elephant, Gerry and Last Days seem to be of their own stylistic canon) which just bleeds contrived controversy. alliteration not intended. That's just my opinion though, I was sucked in to Private Idaho fully aware that I was watching a non-Hollywood Van Sant film and half-expecting to hate it.. I would have been much more confused had I not checked wikipedia about it first, however.
I can obviously understand why one would consider any of Van Sants films pretentious. But Drugstore Cowboy was still overall a very powerful film, as was his big hollywood effort Good Will Hunting.

The criticisms you're giving to Drugstore and Elephant applie to MOPO by a very good margin. C'mon, a film about two homosexual male hookers with no linear plot and a lot of pretentious ranting. Not pretentious?

It deserved praise for it's highly original story, great style and Pheonix's performance but. I feel it could have been a much more powerful film but the characters are a bit too eccentric and aloof to connect with, plus I f*cking hate Keanu Reeves.

It's still a good movie but it IS pretentious, way more pretentious than Van Sants other good films.

I've heard Gerry was a bunch of unwatchable self indulgent wank, and having seen Even Cowgirls Get the Blues I'm going to take that warning to heart.
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I can obviously understand why one would consider any of Van Sants films pretentious. But Drugstore Cowboy was still overall a very powerful film, as was his big hollywood effort Good Will Hunting.

The criticisms you're giving to Drugstore and Elephant applie to MOPO by a very good margin. C'mon, a film about two male hookers with no linear plot and a lot of pretentious ranting.

It deserved praise for it's highly original story, great style and Pheonix's performance but. I feel it could have been a much more powerful film but the characters are a bit too eccentric and aloof to connect with, plus I f*cking hate Keanu Reeves.
I hate Keanu Reeves too, but all the soliloquies and eccentricity was the Henry IV bit in the middle, that tells Scott's story and Fat Bob or whatever his name was (I was ashamed to be able to recognise Flea on sight here aswell). It all depends on where you stand with that theatrical business I suppose, it definitely felt like two films spliced together. I'll rewatch it soon and see if it loses anything
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I hate Keanu Reeves too
He's pretty good at playing emotionless people though.
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