That's your own fault and no it's not a chick flick.

It has a romantic element to it though.

That does not mean it is anywhere near a chick flick. The "romance" part is also a mean to much bigger realization anyway. Just watch the movie.

I'm watching it for the sci-fi stuff anyways.

What's wrong with some romance?

Romance is usually boring.
Love is about as interesting a thing as hunger or the need to take a ****.

I thought Hunger was great.

Never seen it, but heard good things about it.
My point still stands though. A good filmmaker can obviously make everything interesting, including love or hunger, but those things aren't particularly interesting by themselves.

Hunger is ****ing great.

I think it's been overused by cheesy, sentimental, and outright terrible filmmakers so I get where you're coming from. Both topics (love moreso, I think) have a lot of opportunity for really great art.

so i actually saw it on Sunday and came home and responded to your words on Neon Demon basically saying that it and The Witch WERE my favorite films of the year until i saw Arrival....then i went through basically exactly what you just wrote....then my computer dropped it's WiFi connection and i got pissed off

i'm so glad you agree man....it's been a while since i was really "wowed" by a film....probably Boyhood

i had seen two previews before and nothing is spoiled....the trailers do point to romance as a theme but really there is more romance in Terminator than in this...even though romance is a theme in it

this film really is so beautifully crafted in every way...the twists in it are not twists at all but rather reveals that continue a wonderful plot

seriously everything about this film is amazing....before even leaving the theater i purchased the novella it's based off of....and i can't wait to delve back into this story

disclaimer

Love Actually is one of my all time favorite films :)

I saw the trailer today and this instantly went straight to the top of my "to see" list. And maybe I was lucky, but the story shown in the trailer seemed pretty generic
so I hope I was lucky. I know I was lucky with the Grand Budapest Hotel - it had 2 trailers, the one I saw before the movie only presented the cast in character, with no context, and it was superb. The other one gave away every single god damned plot point and plot twist of the movie, I only saw it after watching the movie and I was disgusted with it.

completely wrong save the first two.

Go see this movie :)

Can't wait to see Arrival!

Watched Cape Fear last night for the first time in about 20 years. Had forgotten how intense and suspenseful it was. DeNiro is simply off the charts good as are Nolte, Lange, and Lewis. All of Scorcese's trademark camera work, effects, and cinematography are on display and the soundtrack is pitch perfect.

Counselor.... Counselor.....

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I didn't really like it.
It often felt so cheap, ridiculous and over the top.
As opposed to the original, which rocks.
And I'm not one of those people who generally hate remakes, nothing wrong with giving an older story a modern twist.

I get that. It kept up a ridiculously frenetic pace, and kept trying to have the next scene outdo the previous one over and over again. But I dig that sometimes. I try to imagine what it must be like for the actors to be going all out like that in front of the cameras with a bunch of crew standing around.

Natural Born Killers is in the same vein.

Natural Born Killers is clearly a surrealiatic satire though.
I totally dig over the top stuff, it just feels like Cape Fear does try to be a serious thriller and fails at it due to the goofiness.
Have you seen the original?

Ya. Love that Scorsese gave Mitchum, Balsum, and Peck cameos in his remake.

Speaking of Natural Born Killers, I saw it for the first time a few months ago and god damn. All I knew was that it was a 90s movie about some Bonnie and Clyde type thing. Was in no way prepared for the acidfest that followed. I love how it pokes fun/a finger at society's love affair with serial killers, media spectacles, and generally bad ****, not by haranguing the viewer but by actually making you feel like you really shouldn't towards the protagonists and then hitting your over the head when you're least expecting it with how legitimately awful they are.

My mom loves that movie and recorded it for me when I was twelve or so. Really blew my mind back then.

If I'd known what it was I would have been prepared. After the first 30 minutes I was picking up what it was putting down, but at first I was just like, "Wasn't this supposed to be some ****ty, wannabe-gritty 90s action movie with delusions of grandeur?"

Did you know going in that Quentin Tarantino wrote the screenplay and Oliver Stone directed it? If you did, and was still blown away, you are an inferior Cinema nerd.

I'm not a cinema nerd.

Tarantino is way overrated anyway.

~a cinema nerd

Bollocks.

Turn the clock back to 1992-1994. The dude completely re-wrote the book on modern cinema. I'd be willing to bet that a bunch of the movies that you guys love from the past 20 years were in some way directly influenced by how Tarantino changed the way it's done.

Bollocks I say! :finger:

But in the end he makes movies that are just meant to be fun and whacky. No brain is needed to appreciate a Tarantino movie.

Nobody said you can't be great and overrated at the same time.

Have you actually watched Pulp Fiction? Going into that movie with no prior knowledge of it was one of the best mind **** cinema experiences I've ever had. It was one of those "gotta see it again to try piece it all together" flicks for sure.

I saw it once as a kid, but the first time I watched it as an adult it really wasn't that hard to figure out what was going on. Pulp Fiction is not rocket science.

It doesn't need to be rocket science to be good. I'm a cinema nerd and I'm always down for a good ol' pretentious art house film, but I still consider Tarantino to be one of the most consistent directors of all-time. He made a lot of great films. In fact, the only film he made that I wouldn't call "great" is Deathproof.

I love Tarantino too, but Chula is clearly a dunderhead if he was confused by Pulp Fiction.

Oh yeah, agreed. I somehow missed the part where he said that. Has be brought up in the "you would have to be alive to understand..." argument yet?

He kicked off with it.

And Jackie Brown is just okay. Subpar for a Tarantino film.

I think it's hella underrated. Feels like a sister movie to Pulp Fiction imo.

Unless you saw The Wizard of Oz during it's first run in theaters you really can't fully appreciate how amazing it was when it switched from B&W to color.

Oh, and **** you all.

So it sucks?

Jackie Brown would be amazing with a tighter edit. It's just too ****ing long.

Jackie Brown rocks for one simple reason.

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Remember that one with the train? Just like it was coming right at the audience! People were running out of the theatre, it was really something.

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Sun Choke

That was unsettling and sadistic as ****.