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Old 06-19-2013, 09:23 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I've been watching episodes of OLtL because of my adoration for Howarth lately, and he's actually quite talented. And yes, he would be spectacular for Whedon. I can definitely see that.
I'd heard that he started out on One Life to Live. I'd love to see some of his episodes. Connie made me start watching the show, but Todd was easily the best character otherwise. He's just so lovable. He decided to fake a multiple personality all of five minutes before his court case. Who does that? And he somehow got away with it too! He's just such a lovably bumbling douchebag. And Carly may have been smart for not dating him, but it was still bull****. They were perfect for each other. He's a perpetual screw up and she's a complete mess. What could go wrong?

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And as far as the vampire stuff; since Easton is main cast, I doubt that his getting custody of Rafe is the end of the saga. I don't think they're going to retreat quietly to Manhattan, and have that be the end of it. The encounter with Franco and Silas was also kind of odd, with the blood stain...

And I feel like Danny having BLOOD CANCER and Silas knowing immediately was kind of sketch. Unless he was a vampire and could smell it. There's no doctor good enough to be able to diagnose Leukemia based on swollen glands and a little rash. And since they thought Stephen Clay was a vampire, but Stephen is dead now, signs certainly do point to Silas.
*smacks head*

I can't believe I didn't pick up on the blood cancer thing. I thought that he may have had something to do with it, but for some bizarre reason I wasn't thinking of it in vampire terms. Now it's ****ing obvious. Then he probably caused it as well as smelled it too. Too convenient otherwise.

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And, oh golly, with the Michael/Kiki thing. They're first cousins, which is creepy as all get out, since they've now made out. And the stuff going on with Sonny/Carly/Olivia/Connie/Shawn is actually producing some of the better acting from the performers involved - with the exception of Olivia, I guess, since she's in a coma or whatever.
I've never been the biggest fan of Sonny before, since he was always a bit too stiff and boring to me, but that scene with Carly was actually pretty good for him. He showed emotion but it still had a stiffness that sold him as an emotionally distant mobster type in a way that had always been too played down for me to really appreciate before.

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The way I kind of see this panning out is Olivia pulling through, Shawn maybe skipping town, Carly remaining on Sonny's **** list...and Connie, devastated and wanting to get back at Sonny hooking up with Franco.
Shawn skipping town isn't out of the question I guess. I mean, since Jason has to be coming back at some point (I'm assuming he'll be somehow involved with that guy who's name I forgot who tried to poison the water supply who seemed to have been pulling Faison's strings) he would need to take back his position in Sonny's organization. Not to mention that Shawn and Alexis have had a steady relationship for far too long in a soap opera.

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I'm really loving Luke right now, and I have no idea why. Tony Geary has some crazy charisma. I mean, hell, he's NEVER been "good looking" and was one half of the most loved couple in soap opera history. My fifteen-year-old sister is likewise enthralled.
Have you ever seen pics of him from the eighties? That curly mullet is quite possibly the fugliest thing I have ever seen. I don't even know if I could watch old reruns from back then just because I wouldn't be able to take him seriously with that hair.

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She's also creepy for Roger Howarth, and texted me today like, "Did you see the face that Franco made at AJ?! That was the cutest thing I have ever seen in my life! I need a gif of that! I want to make it my wallpaper!"

It was an interesting facial reaction to say the least, though.
Oh you mean right at the end when he was ****ing with Morgan? That was epic. You know he's crazy and he always plays it, and then he sort of counters it with some weird semi-normalness that you kind of think might be genuine, though you can never be sure, but every so often he just has a moment where pure crazy just comes through and you know that this isn't going to end well.

P.S. Am I the only one who really, really hates Molly? I mean, there is a lot that annoys me about her whole goody-two-shoes character, but the thing that always trips me up is that nobody seems to mind that she left Rafe, who at the time was an almost perfect stranger, into her house where he could have done god knows what to her family. Not only that, but she LEFT HIM ALONE with Sam's baby. Not ever her own baby. There's being good to a fault, and then there's being so arrogant that you're willing to endanger others, even children, just because you have a hunch. If I was Sam I wouldn't let that moron near my child.
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I'd heard that he started out on One Life to Live. I'd love to see some of his episodes. Connie made me start watching the show, but Todd was easily the best character otherwise. He's just so lovable. He decided to fake a multiple personality all of five minutes before his court case. Who does that? And he somehow got away with it too! He's just such a lovably bumbling douchebag. And Carly may have been smart for not dating him, but it was still bull****. They were perfect for each other. He's a perpetual screw up and she's a complete mess. What could go wrong?
There are definite signs pointing to a horizontal tango with Carly at the very least, but Franco has been creeping on just about everyone in Port Charles at this point. And Todd...that is an interesting character. Watching some critical back episodes led me to the gang rape saga, which is jaw-dropping. The actual gang rape itself was terrifying. The focus on the stuffed animal made it wholly sickening to watch.

I actually read that the reason Howarth isn't so keen on interviews anymore is related to that storyline. He was doing an interview, and a female fan screamed, "Rape me!" and he was utterly horrified, wanted to separate from the show and character, and really hasn't done a great deal in terms of interviews since.

And Franco is proving to be quite lovable. I have no idea why. Howarth seems to have a way of making the ****tiest people endearing.


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*smacks head*

I can't believe I didn't pick up on the blood cancer thing. I thought that he may have had something to do with it, but for some bizarre reason I wasn't thinking of it in vampire terms. Now it's ****ing obvious. Then he probably caused it as well as smelled it too. Too convenient otherwise.
The way I figured it out...my sister and I are watching GH, and they say that Danny has leukemia. I'm trying to figure out how Silas knew, as my little sister asks, "What kind of cancer is leukemia?" and my mom, a nurse, says, "It's blood cancer." Then I was like, "HOLY ****! SILAS IS A GODDAMNED VAMPIRE!!!"

Today cemented it, when Lucy accused him of being a vampire, and I am pretty certain she didn't mean it figuratively, because it's ****ing Lucy. Then Silas is all, "Yeah, we're staying in Port Charles now."

He's almost definitely going to **** Sam, though.


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I've never been the biggest fan of Sonny before, since he was always a bit too stiff and boring to me, but that scene with Carly was actually pretty good for him. He showed emotion but it still had a stiffness that sold him as an emotionally distant mobster type in a way that had always been too played down for me to really appreciate before.
Yeah, Benard really stepped it up. Carly had really crossed the line, because it seems that Sonny had never stopped loving Olivia, only realizing this when she was shot, predominately in his name. It was a botched hit, and Sonny is taking hella accountability for it, and with these realizations that Olivia is so important to him, taking everything out on Shawn and Carly. The way he's playing it is almost perfect.


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Shawn skipping town isn't out of the question I guess. I mean, since Jason has to be coming back at some point (I'm assuming he'll be somehow involved with that guy who's name I forgot who tried to poison the water supply who seemed to have been pulling Faison's strings) he would need to take back his position in Sonny's organization. Not to mention that Shawn and Alexis have had a steady relationship for far too long in a soap opera.
I feel there's a very good chance that Franco knows Jason is alive, and is exploiting it for some reason. He's also smart enough to have seen through Carly to know the hit was meant for him, and almost seemed to have some sense of the hit from the get-go, even before Olivia was shot. I feel like Shawn is going to try to skip town, possibly even packing TJ up with him - or trying to do so...but it seems like Shawn is really in it for himself, and wouldn't ultimately see leaving TJ behind as a bad thing; he'd probably think it was in both of their best interests.

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Have you ever seen pics of him from the eighties? That curly mullet is quite possibly the fugliest thing I have ever seen. I don't even know if I could watch old reruns from back then just because I wouldn't be able to take him seriously with that hair.
I have, and it is deplorable, that hair. My mother and grandmother describe the storyline as, "Luke was never cute. He was never cute, but he had so much charisma, and Laura was so beautiful that no one cared about what Luke looked like."

Dude is dripping with charisma, though. They have a point.


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Oh you mean right at the end when he was ****ing with Morgan? That was epic. You know he's crazy and he always plays it, and then he sort of counters it with some weird semi-normalness that you kind of think might be genuine, though you can never be sure, but every so often he just has a moment where pure crazy just comes through and you know that this isn't going to end well.
Yeah, he seems to have some particular mission to **** with Morgan. He's been doing it quite a bit, and Morgan's just a dumb kid. I'm pretty interested to see what his exact motivation is here, because ****ing with Michael would be so much more damaging, ostensibly.

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P.S. Am I the only one who really, really hates Molly? I mean, there is a lot that annoys me about her whole goody-two-shoes character, but the thing that always trips me up is that nobody seems to mind that she left Rafe, who at the time was an almost perfect stranger, into her house where he could have done god knows what to her family. Not only that, but she LEFT HIM ALONE with Sam's baby. Not ever her own baby. There's being good to a fault, and then there's being so arrogant that you're willing to endanger others, even children, just because you have a hunch. If I was Sam I wouldn't let that moron near my child.
No, you're not alone. My sister is wont to refer to her as "that idiot girl," and my sentiments are actually much more scathing. How in the hell did she even find the time to write that next book with all of the stuff that was going on, eh? And her judgment? Severely lacking. I do think Rafe is going to end up killing someone within the year. They're painting him as this troubled kid who's had a lunatic father and has to cope with it, but he's not going to stay golden and good. There's something off about him.

Molly is a horrible judge of character. I'd actually not be surprised if Molly dies at Rafe's hands. TJ will try to stop it, of course, but Rafe is going to put her in the hospital in a coma, a favorite plot device, if nothing else.
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There are definite signs pointing to a horizontal tango with Carly at the very least, but Franco has been creeping on just about everyone in Port Charles at this point. And Todd...that is an interesting character. Watching some critical back episodes led me to the gang rape saga, which is jaw-dropping. The actual gang rape itself was terrifying. The focus on the stuffed animal made it wholly sickening to watch.

I actually read that the reason Howarth isn't so keen on interviews anymore is related to that storyline. He was doing an interview, and a female fan screamed, "Rape me!" and he was utterly horrified, wanted to separate from the show and character, and really hasn't done a great deal in terms of interviews since.
Really? I remember hearing that mentioned, but what actually happened? I don't have cable so all I have to go on is the episodes from November when I started watching up till now. I definitely get the feeling that there is a darker side to Todd's character than was shown since I've been watching. The way he was ready to have Connie killed at the drop of a hat was rather chilling.

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The way I figured it out...my sister and I are watching GH, and they say that Danny has leukemia. I'm trying to figure out how Silas knew, as my little sister asks, "What kind of cancer is leukemia?" and my mom, a nurse, says, "It's blood cancer." Then I was like, "HOLY ****! SILAS IS A GODDAMNED VAMPIRE!!!"

Today cemented it, when Lucy accused him of being a vampire, and I am pretty certain she didn't mean it figuratively, because it's ****ing Lucy. Then Silas is all, "Yeah, we're staying in Port Charles now."
I always knew he was a vampire. Like I said, the scene in the morgue was impossible to interpret wrong. Caleb was dead on the slab, and then the doctor brought out the ring and instantaneously the doctor became Caleb and the guy on the slab became the doctor. If he isn't a vampire then he's a wizard.

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He's almost definitely going to **** Sam, though.
I can see that too. All these old actors playing new characters like Robert playing Franco, Lauren Katherine playing Kiki, and Michael Easton playing Caleb/Silas all seem to be having storylines with their old flames. And with Kiki kissing Michael (which had me totally cracking up) I definitely think that they're all going to end up having weird, dysfunctional romances with them.

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Yeah, Benard really stepped it up. Carly had really crossed the line, because it seems that Sonny had never stopped loving Olivia, only realizing this when she was shot, predominately in his name. It was a botched hit, and Sonny is taking hella accountability for it, and with these realizations that Olivia is so important to him, taking everything out on Shawn and Carly. The way he's playing it is almost perfect.
Yeah, he's definitely playing it like James Gandolfini-lite. Emotionally closed off, and he deals with tragedy by turning his sadness and pain into anger and violence.

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He's also smart enough to have seen through Carly to know the hit was meant for him, and almost seemed to have some sense of the hit from the get-go, even before Olivia was shot.

I feel there's a very good chance that Franco knows Jason is alive, and is exploiting it for some reason.
Yeah, he's obviously got an ulterior motive. Poisoning the relish (seriously? a storyline about relish?) was obviously meant as a way to weaken ELQ. Along with him being involved with AJ and Tracy with ELQ, something dastardly is about to go down. I just can't figure it out. Why he would want to hurt a company that would be providing him with him income through his shares in the company? He has to know that no one would ever in a million years let him anywhere near a position in the company, so I don't know that he's gunning for CEO. Of course with AJ being CEO who knows? Still, I think that something much bigger is going on, and with all the hints to some great conspiracy with Jerry Jacks I can see him somehow being involved.

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I feel like Shawn is going to try to skip town, possibly even packing TJ up with him - or trying to do so...but it seems like Shawn is really in it for himself, and wouldn't ultimately see leaving TJ behind as a bad thing; he'd probably think it was in both of their best interests.
I've been wondering about that. What with the storyline about Felix's sister and TJ breaking up with Molly I think he's definitely about to go off the rails, at least for the summer, and Shawn leaving would definitely exacerbate that.

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Yeah, he seems to have some particular mission to **** with Morgan. He's been doing it quite a bit, and Morgan's just a dumb kid. I'm pretty interested to see what his exact motivation is here, because ****ing with Michael would be so much more damaging, ostensibly.
I think that's just his screwed up way of being a good dad. He's gonna play the overprotective father just because it's fun to screw with Morgan, and if it serves his weird, but somehow kind of genuine desire to be Kiki's dad then all the better.

I'm so looking forward to how he reacts to Michael's kissing Kiki. I never saw the old episodes with James Franco as Franco so I don't really have that great a feel for Franco's character, but he seems unstable enough that his reaction is anyone's guess. But considering the screwed up nature of cousin-on-cousin lovin', then I'm sure his response will be suitably screwed up as well.

I was also disappointed that they didn't immediately follow up with that storyline yesterday. I was hoping to see AJ's reaction to Franco just dropping the rape bombshell in casual conversation like a true psycho, and I'm hoping he goes ballistic. AJ is a quality douche. He's totally consequence-phobic and he was only concerned with his amusement at Carly and Sonny's reaction to Brenda supposedly sleeping with Miachel, so he's obviously almost completely self-absorbed. Not to mention that he's been kissing the ass of the guy who got his son raped. This whole him-finding-out-about-the-rape thing seems like a good opportunity to see if he can actually grow as a character, especially after the last scene at the mansion. I mean come on, if AJ doesn't flip out over that then I think that his character might be unredeemable.


P.S. Another character that bothers me. Spinelli. I can never be sure if he's a lovingly silly spoof of an uber-geek, or just evidence that whoever is the target audience for GH have probably never spoken with an actual geek in their lives. Seriously, if Spinelli were black he'd have an afro ten feet in diameter and he'd walk into every scene with a TV under one arm and a bucket of KFC under the other. And he'd probably announce his arrival with, "What's crackalackin wit' all you honkies?! Spin L.E. all up in dis biatch!"
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You have to admit thought that the scenes between Donna and James were pretty soap opera heavy and were always the ones I hated seeing. You could say the secret lives of characters and all the cheating and backstabbing could qualify it as a soap, but then you have the surreal Black Lodge scenes that make up for it.

In any case I have never been able to get into them and they always ruined sick days when I was a kid because they seemed to be the only thing on TV.
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I've seen all the British ones at some point but the only one I have ever followed of my own accord was Brookside when I was a lot, lot younger, cause it was always the most ridiculous one.

Christmas Day has now become the day I know, beyond a doubt, I will be forced to watch soap operas. It is going to make me hate Christmas eventually.
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I feel there's a very good chance that Franco knows Jason is alive, and is exploiting it for some reason. He's also smart enough to have seen through Carly to know the hit was meant for him, and almost seemed to have some sense of the hit from the get-go, even before Olivia was shot.
Ohmygodohmygodohmygod! Not one half hour ago I just remembered something that might totally shed new light on the whole Franco plotline. I'm pretty sure I'm about to totally blow your mind. God that was geeky, but whatevs. Anyway, do you remember when Edward Quartermaine, the patriarch of the family, died a few months ago? And then Heather Webber showed up and replaced his will with a fake one? Well, I can't be entirely sure, but I'm fairly sure that that little plotbomb never exploded, so we still have no idea what was happening back then.

Now fastforward to a couple weeks ago, and Franco returns to Port Charles and sees who? Heather Webber. At the time we had no idea that it was Franco since we all assumed it was Todd Manning, and we know Todd Manning is frenemies with Heather Webber, so, there was no reason to wonder about anything other than what he asked her to do. But now that we know it was Franco I realized that Heather never acted like she thought he was dead. So, she must have known he was alive, which isn't surprising since she's supposed to be friends with Franco's mother. Which means that dollars-to-donuts his mother also knew that he was alive. Which means that her sending Luke in Kiki's direction was a part of Franco's plan. Since if all Franco wanted was to get to know Kiki it means that that must be part of his plan, cause otherwise he could have just met her where she was without any of this Port Charles hullabaloo.

Even more brain atomizing is that if you consider everything that's happened, it becomes obvious that the fake will was created by Franco. The will that gave not only Kiki, but Franco shares in the company. And most bizarre of all, that also means that it was Franco that gave Tracy the relish.


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