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Old 09-05-2008, 02:29 PM   #171 (permalink)
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Thriller by a country house mile!
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Old 09-05-2008, 02:40 PM   #172 (permalink)
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For me it's a close one... Thriller wins but Off the wall comes damn close.
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Old 09-06-2008, 11:47 AM   #173 (permalink)
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OJ was found innocent... guess he didn't do it. Michael Jackson settling out of court didn't paint him as innocent, it also doesn't take much to see something is OFF with him in the sex department. Beyond the point of just being shy, he has needs like any other human. His ranch was searched and child erotica was found... hmm, maybe he's not jerking off Jordy but he obviously has a thing for naked children. Add him telling Martin Bashere that sleeping in the same bed as children (that aren't his) is a natural, fun thing and it's not hard to connect the dots. Either he is innocent and trying REALLY hard to seem guilty or he had a very good reason to pay those kids off so they would shut up. Either way... he should stay the **** away from children when other people aren't around to observe what he is doing. Donate to charities, help sick kids.. all that is wonderful, but STOP with the sleep overs Michael.

I know, I know... but he wrote Thriller.
I agree some what with what you said but comparing the OJ simpson case to the Michael Jackson case is like trying to compare Michael Jackson with Prince? there is just no comparision. They were two completely different cases and circumstances. If you watched the Michael Jackson case closely like I did, you would see that case was a big media hype all about money. That man didn't do anything and they couldn't prove anything thats why he was acquited. I'm tired of people that think just because celebrities get accused of something that automatically means they did it or they can buy their way out. Maybe if people stop believing the hype and exactly look at the cases they can open their brain for the reality of what it really is and not what the media says. The mother lied on the stand, the accuser lied and even admitted to lieing on the stand. It was a huge mess and the only thing that came out of the case was another smear on Michael's name and another distraction to take away from his music.

and as for the "child erotica" found on his ranch :
Michael lived in a big ass ranch and I wouldn't be surprise if they found a dead body there and he didn't know about it. See... people need to realize its not Michael Jackson its the PEOPLE he surrounds himself with.
The ranch was open for other people Michael was not the only person living on that ranch. There could have been other people in possession of that and like Michael said, there are millions and millions of people constantly sending him things and mail. It all goes to the ranch so to sit here and say just because that was found on the ranch, his guilty? thats ludacris because it doesnt prove anything or that its HIS just because it was on his ranch.

I agree that Michael should not sleep with kids not because his a child molester BUT to protect him from being used again and causing another false accusation. Michael has spent his entire life giving back to kids, people and charities. Michael has been singing and performing since he was five so I can understand why he does some of the things he does and why he has turned out into the man he is today. He had a wacked childhood and a very disfuctional upbringing so of course that is going to affect him as a man and the decisions he makes. People should not judge him because of that because we have not been where his been mentally or experience the things he has. People need to just get off his nut and enjoy his talent.

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Michael wrote just about ALL the songs on all his albums up until "Invincible"
On "Invincible" Michael help co- wrote every song except for "Butterflies" that was writen by Marsha Ambrosius from neo soul group "Floetry" and "Cry" by R.Kelly. Michael wrote "Speechless" and "The Lost Children" by his self on Invincible. So even on Invincible he still played a significant part in the song writing but I agree with what most have said with Invincible being his weakest album because it was BUT Invincible is STILL a descent album and is not nearly as bad as critics make it to be.
Also, Michael plays a multiple of instruments as well. Michael is extremely talented and has been in the game all his life. He can make a comeback, all he needs to do is stay true to his art and focus on his music AND people should also focus on his music instead of ish that is none of their business....

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Old 09-06-2008, 10:10 PM   #174 (permalink)
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I downloaded Thriller and I was pretty dissapointed. The middle trio of Thriller, Beat It and Billie Jean are great songs, but the rest feel pretty lacklustre and low on energy.
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Old 09-08-2008, 08:01 AM   #175 (permalink)
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I agree some what with what you said but comparing the OJ simpson case to the Michael Jackson case is like trying to compare Michael Jackson with Prince? there is just no comparision. They were two completely different cases and circumstances. If you watched the Michael Jackson case closely like I did, you would see that case was a big media hype all about money. etc...
well if you looked closely at my prior post (not the one you quoted) you would see I was comparing him to OJ in the sense Michael was found innocent yet people still question his guilt. Also, I mentioned IF Michael molested those kids it's not THAT different from physically killing somebody as that pain and confusion of being molested has the potential to KILL a child's spirit and soul (with or w/out years of proper counseling). I also admitted to being wrong about his writing credits on Invincible... honestly the album sucked, you being a HUGE fan of his enjoyed it and that's wonderful. Me being a fan of GOOD Michael Jackson songs, thought it was an insult and a waste of vital resources. I'm a firm believer of the phrase... if it smells like ****, it's probably ****. I gave Michael the benefit of the doubt back in 1993, he very well may be innocent but I, personally, think he very well may be guilty.

As far as ignoring all the personal **** and worrying more about his music, if he started putting out some good music perhaps that would be possible. And who the hell knows (or cares) HOW the erotica book got there? you can come up with thousands of ways to say Michael himself didn't buy the book or personally place it on his own bookshelf but that doesn't prove to me that he didn't want it on his bookshelf, in his home. He got off and has his freedom... he will NEVER shed his possible molester cloak as long as he lives, 10+ years of being accused of touching kids kind of does that to a person of his stature.
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well if you looked closely at my prior post (not the one you quoted) you would see I was comparing him to OJ in the sense Michael was found innocent yet people still question his guilt. Also, I mentioned IF Michael molested those kids it's not THAT different from physically killing somebody as that pain and confusion of being molested has the potential to KILL a child's spirit and soul (with or w/out years of proper counseling). I also admitted to being wrong about his writing credits on Invincible... honestly the album sucked, you being a HUGE fan of his enjoyed it and that's wonderful. Me being a fan of GOOD Michael Jackson songs, thought it was an insult and a waste of vital resources. I'm a firm believer of the phrase... if it smells like ****, it's probably ****. I gave Michael the benefit of the doubt back in 1993, he very well may be innocent but I, personally, think he very well may be guilty.
I am a huge fan and also a fan of "good michael jackson music" but I'm realistic and even admited that Invincible was his weakest album BUT that being said their were some "descent" tracks on there that were underrated. Just because its not Michael Jackson's BEST doesn't mean the ENTIRE album sucked because the entire album did not suck..... But OVERALL that mess was far from what Michael is known for and is capable of doing which I do agree.

You can feel however you want to feel about MJ thats ur opinion. I just can't stand people who judge people they don't even know this isn't towards you just in general. The man was proven innocent in a court of law but hey you can feel how you want to feel but it doesn' t change he was found innocent and that he IS innocent.

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As far as ignoring all the personal **** and worrying more about his music, if he started putting out some good music perhaps that would be possible. And who the hell knows (or cares) HOW the erotica book got there? you can come up with thousands of ways to say Michael himself didn't buy the book or personally place it on his own bookshelf but that doesn't prove to me that he didn't want it on his bookshelf, in his home. He got off and has his freedom... he will NEVER shed his possible molester cloak as long as he lives, 10+ years of being accused of touching kids kind of does that to a person of his stature.

Your right nobody cares about the erotica book crap, you brought it up, I was just challenging it. Michael has put out plenty of good music BEFORE Invincible the thing about MJ is his controversial life style, scandles,persona, rumors etc has overshadowed his music. Your right, Michael will always have the child scandal smeared on his image no matter how good the music he makes is but thats obvious... Over the last 20 years of his career his image and music career has been full of speculation/ controversy so that isn't new BUT Michael has still been successful through it all.
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Since everyone seems to have forgotten, Jackson has been accused multiple times and settled out of court the first time. I'm not calling him guilty, but c'mon, you can't say that he's what you'd call clean.
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I am a huge fan and also a fan of "good michael jackson music" but I'm realistic and even admited that Invincible was his weakest album BUT that being said their were some "descent" tracks on there that were underrated. Just because its not Michael Jackson's BEST doesn't mean the ENTIRE album sucked because the entire album did not suck..... But OVERALL that mess was far from what Michael is known for and is capable of doing which I do agree. etc.
Invincible was a bad MJ album... as an album alone it wasn't terrible and yes, there were a few decent songs on their which I actually listened to last night while I was working out (unfortunately BAD came on as well and I started to feel like I was full of myself.) Anyway I think you aren't fully comprehending my posts... I never said WHO CARES about the erotica book, I was responding to your posts of you saying it may not have been Michael who purchased and/or placed the book on the shelf. I was saying WHO CARES who put it there... the fact is, it was there. Also, you are obviously a die hard MJ fan to the end because being found innocent in a court of law can be as convincing as a g*y man being married to a straight woman, not everything is as it seems all the time. Go ask the hundreds of men waiting on death row who may not be guilty.

I truly enjoy pre 1993 MJ... I was pissed off when all this **** started surfacing.
Lyrics like "Beat It", "I'm Bad", "Your butt is mine", "P.Y.T", "Smooth Criminal", "Keep it in the closet", "Dangerous" just don't have the same magic to them after all these allegations

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Since everyone seems to have forgotten, Jackson has been accused multiple times and settled out of court the first time. I'm not calling him guilty, but c'mon, you can't say that he's what you'd call clean.
These kids are on to something, MJ definitely had a hand in it

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Old 09-11-2008, 05:54 AM   #180 (permalink)
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great artist!
too bad he got white...
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