Did Malcolm McLaren Invent Punk?

jackhammer · 06-09-2010, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by right-track

Two questions, same answer.
"Did Malcolm McLaren Invent Punk?"
"Would punk have happened had Mclaren not formed the Sex Pistols?"

As an ideology no, as a musical form-yes. It just didn't have a name. You could argue that he was (gulp) the Simon Cowell of the day. He saw an opportunity and grasped it. I don't think he approached the scene as a monetary opportunity but he certainly gained prestige from it.

boo boo · 06-09-2010, 07:03 PM

As a fashion trend, absolutely.

jackhammer · 06-11-2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

As a fashion trend, absolutely.

What? Punks and those generally into Alternative music especially in London listened to Reggae a lot as it had the same spirit of independence, social class and lyrical themes of Punk at times.

It was also underground enough to be played back to back in many clubs in the mid 70's.

The Ruts, The Clash and The Slits were all into Reggae music as much as other forms of music and no I just didn't throw it out there. I read interviews, watch documentaries and all those bands have commented on their love of Reggae.

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 06-12-2010, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

What? Punks and those generally into Alternative music especially in London listened to Reggae a lot as it had the same spirit of independence, social class and lyrical themes of Punk at times.

It was also underground enough to be played back to back in many clubs in the mid 70's.

The Ruts, The Clash and The Slits were all into Reggae music as much as other forms of music and no I just didn't throw it out there. I read interviews, watch documentaries and all those bands have commented on their love of Reggae.

I think boobs means that, with the whole SEX shop thing, there was a "punk" trend created, so everyone in the scene would know how to dress accordingly. But as someone said, he just bottled it and made it marketable.

And if I remember correctly from docs and reading Please Kill Me, Legs McNeil claimed to have coined the term "punk" to describe the scene.

jackhammer · 06-12-2010, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Paloma

I think boobs means that, with the whole SEX shop thing, there was a "punk" trend created, so everyone in the scene would know how to dress accordingly. But as someone said, he just bottled it and made it marketable.

And if I remember correctly from docs and reading Please Kill Me, Legs McNeil claimed to have coined the term "punk" to describe the scene.

No he specifically remarked on my Reggae post and made a totally uninformed misjudged remark about it.

Punk evolved differently in America and the U.K and to say that Reggae was a fashion trend is the sort of mis informed post that gets my goat.

SBWNik · 06-10-2010, 01:56 PM

McClaren invented punk. And then went on to do the same with hip hop. Then invented dying.

A truly great man.

Oh, hang on.... does sarcasm work on the web?

right-track · 06-10-2010, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SBWNik

McClaren invented punk. And then went on to do the same with hip hop. Then invented dying.

A truly great man.

Oh, hang on.... does sarcasm work on the web?

No, but humour does.

You should try it sometime.

Rocknroll_Animal · 06-10-2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by right-track

No, but humour does.

You should try it sometime.

I thought he was being humorous...

right-track · 06-10-2010, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocknroll_Animal

I thought he was being humorous...

I was being ironic.

Rocknroll_Animal · 06-10-2010, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by right-track

I was being ironic.

Yes, but irony is a form of humour.

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SBWNik Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 67	McClaren invented punk. And then went on to do the same with hip hop. Then invented dying. A truly great man. Oh, hang on.... does sarcasm work on the web?