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Hinesmdc 08-19-2008 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by FireInCairo (Post 508335)
i see you have a tom delonge quote...can we really trust your opinion when it comes to rubbishy pop-punk?

a side note: the term pop-punk does not really make sense does it.

The quote is from Angels & Airwaves, an alternative band.

FireInCairo 08-19-2008 02:04 AM

thats not a real genre...
and tom delonge is much more famous for being in blink 182 than his extremely poorly received new project

Piss Me Off 08-19-2008 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by FireInCairo (Post 508335)
a side note: the term pop-punk does not really make sense does it.

Why not?

FireInCairo 08-19-2008 05:09 AM

becuase if its pop...its not punk
in what way are blink 182 for example punk?
they dont seem to have anything to do with it in terms of music or image
its all a lot closer to pop rock than punk
and its mtv sanctioned which is pretty much the most unpunk thing in the world

Piss Me Off 08-19-2008 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by FireInCairo (Post 508464)
becuase if its pop...its not punk
in what way are blink 182 for example punk?
they dont seem to have anything to do with it in terms of music or image
its all a lot closer to pop rock than punk
and its mtv sanctioned which is pretty much the most unpunk thing in the world

It still bares some resemblence to punk music though whether it's genuine or not, 3 chords, catchy choruses, spkiy guitars etc.
You have to remember that Blink 182 and the rest only represent the mainstream side to pop punk, then you have bands like Screeching Weasel and Operation Ivy and, back in the day, the Buzz****s which show a much better side to it all.

FireInCairo 08-19-2008 05:48 AM

i concede you have your point
i still dont think id credit it as punk

Piss Me Off 08-19-2008 05:55 AM

Well saying whats punk and what's not is enormously subjective, despite what some people think, it's all down to what your concept of punk is. I was just saying the similarities Blink and the rest have to 'proper' punk bands.

FireInCairo 08-19-2008 06:10 AM

yes i know
i personally dont hear that much similarity in the form
maybe a harmonic simplicity and simple structure
but their topics are usually much more whiny "my girl friend keft me stuff"
to me punk was an era as much as it was a genre
and was supposed to be completely against the prepackaged commercial stuff we now receive via bands such as blink

Alfred 08-19-2008 08:25 AM

Fall Out Boy only puts up one minute of their songs for you to hear on Myspace. Even Avril Lavigne lets you hear the full song.

Urban Hat€monger ? 08-19-2008 11:38 AM

This has to be the most tedious thread in the history of this forum.

"I'm so hardcore because I don't buy my t shirts from this shop blah blah blah"


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