Originally Posted by Rezdaddy Longlegs

Lol you can not seriously be arguing this. If you have been to a third the shows you say you have then you would realize the punk and especially metal crowd are VERY low in black population.

Hell last time I went to Ozzfest with my 2 black friends they were playing find a black guy game because they seemed like the only 2 out of 10000 people. No one is saying none exist but come on dude metal is predominantly white males.

Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

I never said there isn't a problem within the black community, I merley stated their problem is the worst because of generations of family breakdown, largely due to historic racism and discrimination, not because they happen to be black.

Black families were broken apart in the south and herded off like cattle for the slave trade. Northern black families were dispossessed and forced into ghetto enclaves.

We now live in a moral relative post Christian society, and they are bearing the blunt of the decline in family values, while being blindsided with the lucrative profits that can be made from prohibition.

For the record, this isn't a political stance, I'm neither left nor right, I'm just stating facts. I'm agnostic & politically ambivalent, I believe that evolution will run its course and therefore most political issues are pre determined either way.


Anyways you made your point. You think that rap sucks, that a lot of African American culture is garbage, and that a small minority of black punk rockers somehow represented of black youth on a whole.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by Lord Larehip

I doubt you'd see many punks at an Ozzfest either.

Originally Posted by Rezdaddy Longlegs

Lol ok because a true punk fan has to look a certain way...You dont think the metal and punk crowd overlap in 2013??

Originally Posted by Lord Larehip

I never said 2013, did I? I said there were a lot of blacks involved in the punk scene when I was involved in it. Since I don't believe there is any real punk anymore, it wouldn't make much sense for me to be hanging out at punk shows in 2013, would it? My last punk show was about 20 years ago--give or take a year.

Originally Posted by Lord Larehip

That was a silly thing to say but to each their own.

Originally Posted by Rezdaddy Longlegs

So basically what you are saying is that since you have not been involved in the punk scene in 20 years that your opinion (this thread about punk being dead) means absolutely nothing....

brb punk is dead
brb havnt gone to punk show in 20 years

Originally Posted by grindy

Basically you're David Hasselhoff.