^ Woody Guthrie is as punk as they come!

Hrmm... The first ones I loved were Bad Brains and Los Saicos. (and pretty much all of the south American 60s garage bands)

Marry me?

Sure, why not!

I could name quite a few reasons why not actually

I think there needs to be a clear distinction that there is a punk culture and a punk genre. The punk culture is the look and the hair and the attitude and the rebellion. The genre is the music. There could be bands that are part of the punk culture and not part of the genre then, right?

From the punk I've heard there is a definite sound to it. And it's not just being unprofessional or unconventional music because that'd make Lil Yahty punk. I have a hard time describing the sound, but it's like distorted and obnoxious guitars played in a mess manner. It was unconventional for it's time. With vocals to match. I think that's kind of the idea behind punk. The obnoxiousness and the in your face chaos of it's sound.

As for punk being cliche, everything is cliche.

And you couldn't really say punk is dead, with how much influence it still has on modern music. Even in hip hop with artists like Ho99o9 and XXXtentecion embracing the harsh and obnoxious sounds of punk. Oh, and how could I leave Deathgrips out of that.

Who created the first punk song is a rabbit hole we can go down forever. It's definitely not Led Zepplin though. I thought it was common knowledge that they stole most, if not all, of their songs from lesser known artists.

Who was the first punk band I wouldn't know. Probably the Stooges according to what I've seen here.

Edit: Then again I probably shouldn't be talking about a genre when I can hardly name any songs from it.

I don't mean it in a condescending way. Like it's bad. I guess a better word for it would be flamboyant. Like it's loud and attention grabbing.

It's harmonious chaos.

Edit: Not full on dissonance.

Yeah, but it's still harmonious. Which is contradicting, but I guess that's kind of the beauty of punk.

And there is punk rock with a professional sound. I think you're confusing professional with conventional. Which I wouldn't use to describe it either. It was unconventional when it first came out, compared to what was out then, but Punk definitely does have it's conventions and tropes just like any genre.

The first punk band I technically listened to would have to be the Clash or the Ramones, but I only knew Should I Stay Or Should I Go and I Wanna Be Sedated.

But I would consider the first punk band I listened to to probably be Bikini Kill.

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