Agreed. Killer Mike at his best is RTJ, whereas El has a catalogue of material as good if not better than RTJ.

Try Open Mike Eagle and Childish Gambino, I feel like they'd be up your alley. A Special Episode Of for OME and Because of the Internet for Gambino.

Thanks! I'll do that.

Based on those I think you may like:

Chance the Rapper
Majid Jordan
A$AP Rocky
Frank Ocean
Tinashe
Mick Jenkins
Denzel Curry
Flatbush ZOMBiES

Based on Blue Scholars:

Little Brother


Blu and Exile


Cyne

Beautiful. I'm heard A$AP and Flatbush (who I saw perform live at Bumbershoot a few months ago). Thanks Goof!

Thanks!

Also: Collective Efforts

Blu & Exile is a great rec.

I think that Reagan is Killer Mike's best song overall, but RTJ is his best, and is also pretty much El's lowest point. I mean, it's really fun and **** like that but it doesn't have the replay value of his solo stuff or Company Flow.

Company Flow is the ****.

Every time I listen to R.A.P. Music I make it to Reagan before switching. It's not that the album isn't really good, it's just that I find it to be far better than the rest of the album. Southern Fried is really good too.

Lupe Fiasco especially his debut album. Might as well start with Food and Liqour.
Elzhi
J. Cole
Jurassic Five
You might like The Internet but it is more R&B/soul
Kid Cudi
Lil Dicky for some comedy rap

Thanks deej. I've heard Lil Dicky. His track when he's being interviewed by Snoop Dogg is comedy gold and rap genius.

I don't think Kanye is a bad lyricist. Just because his lyrics are not as intricate and complex as some doesn't mean they are bad. Kanye's lyrics still resonate with people. They might be simple but they are perfect for what he wants. If they were bad then he wouldn't have the fans. Many artists that write intricate super complex lyrics suffer from the fact that they can't write lyrics that are catchy and resonate with people. Kanye gets his point across effectively.

Cause the same people that try to black ball me, forgot about two things

My black balls

That's just genius right there.

Definitely makes you think, doesn't it?

Kanye's desires are either garbage or he can't live up to them. I get the feeling that it's the latter.

lmao

You know, good music doesn't stand the test of time. ****ty artists will have their time in the light but they will fade away. If he was bad he wouldn't have spent the last decade on top as one of the highest praised artists in the industry. Controversy alone can't put you at that spot. Especially when most people hate him as a person but love his music.

Stop it man, my sides can only take so much.

I get it, it's funny because it's true!

He's popular, therefore his lyrics aren't bad? Bandwagon fallacies are lame. The only thing that being popular proves is that you are popular.

Bull****. So every person that is highly praised is automatically a good artist?

Exactly people love his music but they will tell you his lyrics aren't that great. It is his production choices and the music itself that people love.

No. It's every artist that is continually praised that high for years is automatically a good artist. If Kanye sucked as much as implied he would have faded away. Even his lyrics. If his lyrics were that bad he would not be where he's at and where he's been for the last 10 years. Standing the test of time is something most artists can't do. Even the ones with the highest praise. Like DMX who was highly praised and didn't stand the test of time. Even Eminem who's consider one of the absolute best hasn't stood the test of time as well. Even Ice Cube hasn't stood the test of time as well.

Actually I think most people would say that his lyrics have gone down hill rather than say his lyrics aren't that great. Even then, I argue his lyrics are perfect for what he's trying to do. If his lyrics were truly garbage he wouldn't be as big as he is.

This is not even remotely true.

I don't think that's true either, I think it's more the fact that lyrics aren't important for the casual music listener that made him famous.

This pretty much. Most people nowadays don't really care about lyrics. You don't need quality lyrics to be big.

Just have a catchy hook. Look at a majority of the trap **** that is big right now.

If you can dance to it and get lit. The lyrics don't matter at all.

I guess you're always entitled to think he sucks, but if you want an objective measurement on whats good then success is it along with other things.


And maybe you're mind is too closed away to realize that some people enjoy his lyrics and too pretentious to think that Kanye fans are more than casual music listeners.

I'm sure if they were mumbling about sucking dick and killing jews people wouldn't want to listen to it. So lyrics kind of do matter.

"Objective measurement of what's good."

When it comes to art, we will always disagree that this even exists.

What's there to like about his lyrics?

I like the confidence and braggadocio of his lyrics because I appreciate people that believe in themselves rather than hate them selves. I like a lot of the punch lines he puts in there as well. I also like how he can perfectly portray an emotion that contradicts what he's saying as he's saying it. I like a lot of the messages he tries to convey through his lyrics.

There's a world of braggadocious hip hop out there that's better than Kanye though.

That I can respect, even though I disagree with all of those points except for the punchline bit because he does have a couple of alright ones.

I like the way Kanye does it. There are tons of braggadocious rappers that really just bore the **** out of me. Kanye's bragging is entertaining.

The only Kanye song with decent lyrics is "Roses".

If Desiigner was doing it people would still listen because they can't understand what he says majority of the time.

Also that is such an extreme example. People listen to rappers brag about cooking coke in the kitchen, busting a nut on a girls back and other stupid **** with no qualms.

That's stupid to you. Dude thinks busting a nut on a girl's back is stupid. Pfff.

Lemme guess, you prefer rappers that rap about getting nuts busted on their backs? I mean, I think King Gordy has said something about Jesus Christ doing that to him.

The reference I was making was to ****ing Soulja Boy. That's what his hit song was about. So it wasn't so much the content but the popularity of Soulja Boi himself and what he ended up having a catchy hook about.

Cabain's Diary FTW

watch ya mouth, soulja boy only makes hits. SPEAKERS GOING HAMMERRR

One thing about Soulja Boi is, where the **** is he? Has anybody heard any other song by him? Do people still even listen Crank That? I know people still bump Stronger. All the ****ing time. My point made. **** artists like Soulja Boi fade with time while the greats like Kanye thrive.

soulja boy had multiple hits and will never fade