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mosesandtherubberducky 11-25-2005 08:35 PM

Oh cool cool, yeah that damn theory...that and all the stupid modes of the major scale. Have you ever tried to read those lessons out of Guitar World that people like Jeff Lommes (sp?) or Malmsteen write?

boo boo 11-25-2005 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesandtherubberducky
Oh cool cool, yeah that damn theory...that and all the stupid modes of the major scale. Have you ever tried to read those lessons out of Guitar World that people like Jeff Lommes (sp?) or Malmsteen write?

Its like trying to read the king james bible in japanese.

Emopwner 11-25-2005 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Uke
YEAH! i like daron from system of a down too. :clap:

who's dimebag? :confused:

You, my friend, (oh wait...that's right...you don't have any, nevermind), are a mental retard.

Kurt Cobain as one of the best guitarists ever? You need to get shot for even thinking that.

And you don't even know who Dimebag is....Jesus....go listen to music, not stupid ****ty suicidal bands who can't even sing or play music.

****head!

boo boo 11-25-2005 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Emopwner
You, my friend, (oh wait...that's right...you don't have any, nevermind), are a mental retard.

Kurt Cobain as one of the best guitarists ever? You need to get shot for even thinking that.

And you don't even know who Dimebag is....Jesus....go listen to music, not stupid ****ty suicidal bands who can't even sing or play music.

****head!

We got ourself a retard alright. :whythis:

bungalow 11-25-2005 11:52 PM

you think thats retarded

read the rest of his posts

Emopwner 11-26-2005 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
We got ourself a retard alright. :whythis:

So the guy with a bullet in his head that wrote a ****ty, 4 chord "song" is the greatest guitarist ever?

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you think thats retarded

read the rest of his posts
I love you too!

boo boo 11-26-2005 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Emopwner
So the guy with a bullet in his head that wrote a ****ty, 4 chord "song" is the greatest guitarist ever?

I love you too!

Archie?

cherrychic 11-27-2005 03:48 AM

wow y'all are viscious.
i think kurdt cobain had some pretty good catchy, mainstream stuff but nothing original or unique. i just like him cuz he's hot.

right-track 11-27-2005 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrychic
i just like him cuz he's hot.

Correction cherrychic...he's stone cold!

cherrychic 11-27-2005 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by right-track
Correction cherrychic...he's stone cold!

ha ha ha. so tell me how u really feel.

Kevdo 11-27-2005 04:20 AM

My choices:

Jimmy Page - he is very experimental and he can write great ballads as well great hard rock songs. He is talented on both electric (Since I've Been Loving You) and acoustic (Rain Song) and his playing on White Summer is excellent

Ritchie Blackmore - I can't believe no-one mentioned him. Just listen to the solo in Child In Time if you disagree.

Dave Gilmour - 5 words: Shine On You Crazy Diamond

Nuff said.

cherrychic 11-27-2005 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevdo
My choices:

Jimmy Page - he is very experimental and he can write great ballads as well great hard rock songs. He is talented on both electric (Since I've Been Loving You) and acoustic (Rain Song) and his playing on White Summer is excellent

Ritchie Blackmore - I can't believe no-one mentioned him. Just listen to the solo in Child In Time if you disagree.

Dave Gilmour - 5 words: Shine On You Crazy Diamond

Nuff said.

yeah i really like jimmy page; he is VERY experimental and he makes up exellent riffs.
jimmy hendrix; he's just a great guitarist period. great musician.

boo boo 11-27-2005 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevdo
Ritchie Blackmore - I can't believe no-one mentioned him. Just listen to the solo in Child In Time if you disagree.

I have, and im still convinced he is overrated.

Kashmir86 11-27-2005 11:12 PM

i think hendrix is more overrated than page imo. If your talking about guitarists, that is. As a musician, hendrix is probbably better, taking into consideration that he was the lead singer, songwriter, and that he played a right handed guitar when he was a lefty. However, if youre just talking about straight up guitar playing, jimmy page outdoes hendrix any day of the week. Page had more songs, better riffs, longer solos, etc. Correct me if i'm wrong but i have yet to hear a song by hendrix with an acoustic, however, page had a great number of acoustic songs that were totally amazing. black mountain side, bron-y-aur, babe im gonna leave you, etc. Page was so much more diverse in my opinion. I also prefer the tone of pages guitar too, but thats just my preference.

crimepartner 11-28-2005 12:58 PM

I think steve vai is probably the the best technical guitarist, but I like the sound of eric johnson, he has an awesome style. and then me...joke

Kashmir86 11-29-2005 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
Nope, his difining style was many things, including being one of the first guitarists to use over a dozen guitar overdubs in one song and one of the defining guitarists in rock music.


And what does Pentatonic Scales have to do with anything?... Page uses pentatonics most of the time, so does Hendrix, Clapton, EVH, Gilmour and Berry... And i'll tell you why, because it sounds good, which is why its a common scale in many genres of music, and dispite what some of you might think, good music isnt defined by how technicaly dificult it is to play, but how it sounds, and thats all that matters, a guitarists job is to complement the music in the best way he or she can.

And if you think that Page is a one trick pony, you are wrong, and if you think that he only plays pentatonics and in 4/4 time, you are even wronger...Four Sticks is in 5/4, The Crunge is in 9/4 and Black Dog shifts between, 3/4, 4/4 and 5/4...You dont hear time sigs and tempo changes like those very often... So please do not speak of which you do not know.

Page's songwriting was ingenious. Ten years gone has 4 guitar parts, four sticks switches from 5/4, to 6/4, and back to 5/4, over the hills and far away starts with 4/4, switches to 9/8, followed by a measure of 7/8. Dazed and confused starts with 12/8 time, switches to 9/8 and then to 6/8. The ocean starts with 4/4 and switches back and forth between that And 7/8. Finally black dog starts in 4/4 and switches to 5/8 and back to 4/4. Another thing that page was amazing at was alternate guitar tunings. Kashmir especially is ingenious with the DADGAD tuning, as is black mountain side which is of the same tuning. If anyone says that pages playing is easy they are retarted, and lack musical knowledge. Its a hell of a lot easier to buy a tab book and have it all written out in front of you than to start from scratch. Page is the master of guitar.

Neutron2K 11-30-2005 08:45 AM

I have a number of guitar influences, but no one single person can really claim the title of greatest guitarists.

heres my list:

clapton - blues
instramental guitar - vai or satch
shred - Michael Angelo Battio (fastest shredder in the world i think)
Rock - Saul Hudson (Slash)

Leady 12-12-2005 09:06 AM

Rite Can I Just Say That For About A Year I Was A Nirvana Obsessive And Liked All The Music But Never In My Life Will I Say Kurt Cobain Was A Great Or Even Good Guitarist!!!! He Was A Guy Hu Had An Attitude And Hu Could Play A Few Chords On A Guitar And If He Hadnt Have Blown His Mouth Off, No One Wouldve Heard Of Him!

Kashmir86 12-12-2005 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Leady
Rite Can I Just Say That For About A Year I Was A Nirvana Obsessive And Liked All The Music But Never In My Life Will I Say Kurt Cobain Was A Great Or Even Good Guitarist!!!! He Was A Guy Hu Had An Attitude And Hu Could Play A Few Chords On A Guitar And If He Hadnt Have Blown His Mouth Off, No One Wouldve Heard Of Him!

would you call the band The Hu? or The Who?

boo boo 12-12-2005 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Leady
Rite Can I Just Say That For About A Year I Was A Nirvana Obsessive And Liked All The Music But Never In My Life Will I Say Kurt Cobain Was A Great Or Even Good Guitarist!!!! He Was A Guy Hu Had An Attitude And Hu Could Play A Few Chords On A Guitar And If He Hadnt Have Blown His Mouth Off, No One Wouldve Heard Of Him!

Bull****!...He was already very popular before he died...Its also one of the things that suposedly driven him to commit suicide in the first place.

Kashmir86 12-12-2005 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
Bull****!...He was already very popular before he died...Its also one of the things that suposedly driven him to commit suicide in the first place.

yeah nirvana was such an underground band until kurt died :crazy: was i this bad as a NooB?

tehpibb 12-14-2005 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Kashmir86
yeah nirvana was such an underground band until kurt died :crazy: was i this bad as a NooB?

dont get any of that 2nd part
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Was I this bad as a NooB?

bungalow 12-14-2005 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kashmir86
yeah nirvana was such an underground band until kurt died :crazy: was i this bad as a NooB?

You still are that bad......

Kashmir86 12-15-2005 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357
You still are that bad......

If I'm that bad then what does that make you?...

bungalow 12-15-2005 09:37 PM

.....mentally retarded?

Kashmir86 12-15-2005 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357
.....mentally retarded?

It all makes sense...

jazzfromhell 12-18-2005 01:38 PM

Ok, I'm going to try and address as much of this thread as possible in one or two posts.

First, my list of favorite ten guitarists, in no order. Not necessarily technical best, just whose style I enjoy:

Django Reinhardt (you guys need to check this guy out, he played better than most I've heard, and had only two fingers on his fret hand)
Charlie Christian (first guitarist to popularize the electric guitar, and one of the first to bring guitar out of the rhythym section as it had been in swing and make it a soloing instrument, as you can guess, his influence is immeasurable)
Frank Zappa
David Gilmour
Jimi Hendrix
John McLaughlin
Jimmy Page
Jack White (far from technical best, but seeing him play live was awesome)
Duane Allman
Jorma Kaukonen (listening to him FINGERPICK Embryonic Journey is amazing)

That's kind of a loose list, I guess, the guitar is far from my favorite instrument, and I don't think about it much.

Now, on to Jimmy Page: he was not the first to use the bow, along with many other riffs, lyrics, etc. (http://www.warr.org/zep.html, go a bit down the page for the list), he took the idea from someone else, in this case, Eddie Phillips of The Creation. Nonetheless, despite not being as original as many would believe, he is a fantastic guitar player, and one of my favorites, as I said above. Most, I think all of the songs you guys listed in the different time signatures, were written by him. I can explain how they work, if you wish. There's no harm in soloing with pentatonic scales, Coltrane (my favorite saxophone soloist of all time, perhaps my favorite soloist period) used them all the time.

Kurt Cobain was not a techinically skilled guitarist, but he had style (albeit, style heavily copied from earlier guitarist). Style is what matters by far the most, in my book. Dimebag, I haven't listened to, I don't like metal. Satriani, Vai, Malmsteen, their style alternates between being boring and annoying, I don't like it at all. I'm not a fan of Van Halen, Eddie's pretty good at guitar, but he wouldn't make my top 50.

Kashmir86 12-18-2005 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzfromhell
Dimebag, I haven't listened to, I don't like metal.

well you're not missing much IMO...

Don 01-27-2006 11:26 PM

Ultimate Guitarist Poll
 
ok my 3rd shot at this haha

we're going on technical/compositional wise. I initially had 49 guitarists, but my 5 mins was running out so I missed some like Keith Richards and Allen Collins. And i put shawn angel and Blackmore twice Goddamnit! Bloody hell it's hard to copy and paste that quickly haha. I need some mod help please

Seltzer 01-27-2006 11:35 PM

Is there any point in having a poll based on technical ability? Because technical ability is almost factual. I can look at that poll and instantly say some of those are factually wrong such as Dimebag Darrell, even if he if a pretty awesome songwriter IMO. Adrian Smith is in the same boat.

And there are some guitarists who I can't see any merit in at all (technical, emotion, songwriting, style etc) such as Kirk Hammett.

MURDER JUNKIE 01-27-2006 11:36 PM

Again, Herman Li

GUITAR HERO!!!!

Don 01-27-2006 11:37 PM

Okay it's changed...That's what I meant

sleepy jack 01-27-2006 11:39 PM

Damn, this poll rocks. I voted other and that other being Thomas Erak (the fall of troy).

ManicDepression 01-27-2006 11:40 PM

Robert Johnson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How can he not be on there.

Don 01-27-2006 11:41 PM

It would rock more if a mod would help me out, i.e delete the double entries and let me add a few more :P

Seltzer 01-27-2006 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Don
Okay it's changed...That's what I meant

Yup, no worries. I voted Satriani considering this is meant be based on technicality as well composition. Normally, composition takes the top priority for me though.

Aside from that, I would normally vote for John Frusciante, Hendrix, Satriani, Mustaine, Brian May, Dimebag or Akerfeldt.

Don 01-27-2006 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MURDER JUNKIE
Again, Herman Li

GUITAR HERO!!!!

I'm not sure, but doesn't Sam Totman, play the exact same **** as him, either in unison or in harmony?

MURDER JUNKIE 01-27-2006 11:45 PM

Pretty much but I had to pick one and Herman's hair is FAR superior

Don 01-27-2006 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MURDER JUNKIE
Pretty much but I had to pick one and Herman's hair is FAR superior

Does Dragonfoce do any completely dubbed concert performances? 'Cause I swear some videos I've seen sound a bit too good if you know what I mean. And it doesn't look like they're actually playing the insane solo parts (guitar and keys).

Don 01-27-2006 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill
Damn, this poll rocks. I voted other and that other being Thomas Erak (the fall of troy).

I've haven't heard any Fall of Troy yet. Which album should I get? Doppelganger?


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