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ManicDepression 02-01-2006 10:55 PM

Robert Smith?!?!??!

Don 02-02-2006 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mosesandtherubberducky
Psh, some guitarist poll, you don't have Brian Setzer or Robert Johnson. But if they were up there I would vote for one...then make another account just to vote for the other one.

Check my list on page 4

boo boo 02-02-2006 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Don
ok my 3rd shot at this haha

we're going on technical/compositional wise. I initially had 49 guitarists, but my 5 mins was running out so I missed some like Keith Richards and Allen Collins. And i put shawn angel and Blackmore twice Goddamnit! Bloody hell it's hard to copy and paste that quickly haha. I need some mod help please

This is about technical skill, and you added Kurt Cobain.


Hmmm......

Most of your options suck too, i could name more worthy players for such a poll, in fact you left out a lot of technicaly skilled players for guitarists who arent very worthy, such as Kerry King, whos a very sloppy soloist, his rhythm playing is tight, but his soloing is very sloppy...And he lacks versatility.

Don 02-02-2006 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo
This is about technical skill, and you added Kurt Cobain.


Hmmm......

Most of your options suck too, i could name more worthy players for such a poll, in fact you left out a lot of technicaly skilled players for guitarists who arent very worthy, such as Kerry King, whos a very sloppy soloist, his rhythm playing is tight, but his soloing is very sloppy...And he lacks versatility.

Technial and composition is what I said...And I didn't list all the guitarists I like. Check out my list on page 4 and tell me who I should add if you like.

boo boo 02-02-2006 07:11 AM

Well for one, i would have not included....

Kerry King
Eddie Van Halen
Slash
Kirk Hammet
Angus Young
Kurt Cobain
Robert Smith
Zakk Wylde
David Gilmour
Dave Mustaine
Eric Clapton
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Jimmy Page
Jason Becker
Jimi Hendrix
Randy Rhoads
BB King
Tony Iommi

And i would have included....

John Mclaughlin
Steve Howe
Shawn Lane
Jan Akkerman
Ron Thal
Paul Gilbert
Marty Friedman
Gary Green
Andy Latimer
Adrian Belew
Ry Cooder
Neal Schon
Derek Trucks
Allan Holdsworth
Phil Keaggy
Steve Morse
Django Reinhardt
Buckethead

judas_priest 02-02-2006 12:45 PM

^ yeah Marty Friedman is one of my favourite guitarists.
it's really hard to decide because there are so many talented guitarists on the list. I'd have to say Petrucci.

boris jawaka 02-08-2006 11:39 PM

Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not Zappa. ZAPPA IS THE BEST...

dojo 02-09-2006 10:05 AM

God, this is a HUGE poll ..

Chose Malmsteen ... very proficient, even if people claim he's "soulless" in his performances ...

Mr Sensitive 02-11-2006 05:02 PM

You have Graham Coxon on that list, but not Jonny Greenwood. This makes your list irrelevant.

Besides. guitar solos aren't really my thing, I can think of nothing more horrible than a couple of moronic metal heads wanking to a 5 minute guitar solo.

sleepy jack 02-11-2006 05:16 PM

I think theres more to being an amazing guitarist then soloing..

boo boo 02-11-2006 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill
I think theres more to being an amazing guitarist then soloing..

Absolutely, listen to Dimebag, hes not a bad soloist, but his real skill is in his rhythm playing.

Robert Fripp is a solid rhythm player as well.

Seltzer 02-11-2006 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
Absolutely, listen to Dimebag, hes not a bad soloist, but his real skill is in his rhythm playing.

Robert Fripp is a solid rhythm player as well.

Personally, I think Dimebag is great at both. He has some awesome rhythm work, but some great solos too. His solo in Floods is possibly one of my favourite solos ever.

Don 02-12-2006 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Sensitive
You have Graham Coxon on that list, but not Jonny Greenwood. This makes your list irrelevant.

Besides. guitar solos aren't really my thing, I can think of nothing more horrible than a couple of moronic metal heads wanking to a 5 minute guitar solo.

Read the other posts about why Greenwood isn't on. And a mod added Coxon. Also check this out (on page 4):

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don
I took the liberty to add in the various bands and the less popular one's style(s). If there's no band listed it means they have a solo career, even though I know some some of them have also been in bands, but they probably have more solo albums. And vice-versa.
I'm not gonna stop this list until everyone on this entire board is happy! So tell me to make additions if you want and I'll add them if I've heard of 'em – or correct my mistakes. You now officially have the right to be pissed at me for forgetting your favourite guitarist(s).
If you think you've seen a more comprehensive list – you're wrong.


Adrian Belew (King Crimson, Frank Zappa, The Bears, etc)
Adrian Smith (Iron Maiden)
Alan Morse (Spock's Beard)
Alex Lifeson (Rush)
Alexi Laiho (Children of Bodom – just about every metal there is)
Allan Holdsworth (UK, Tempest, etc)
Allen Collins (Lynnard Skynnard)
Andy Latimer (Camel)
Angus Young (AC/DC)
Anthony Iommi (Black Sabbath)
Arjen Anthony Lucassen (Ayreon - Heavy metal/prog metal/neo-Prog)
B.B King
Bob Dylan
Brendt Allman (Shadow gallery – Prog rock/prog metal)
Brian May (Queen)
Brian Setzer (Stray Cats, The Bloodless Pharoahs)
Buckethead
Carlos Santana (Santana)
Chirs Amott (Arch Enemy – Death metal/heavy meal/thrash)
Chris Cheney (The Living End – Australian punk revival band)
Chris DeGarmo (Queensrÿche)
Chris Rea
Chuck Berry
David Gilmour (Pink Floyd)
Dave Mustaine (Megadeth, Metallica)
Derek Trucks (The Derek Trucks Band, etc - Slide Guitarist)
Dimebag Darrel (Pantera)
Django Reinhardt (Jazz/Swing)
Eddie Van Halen (Van Halen)
Eric Clapton (Cream, The Yardbirds, etc)
Eric Johnson
Frank Black (Pixies (as Black Francis))
Frank Zappa
Gary Green (Gentle Giant)
Graham Coxon (Blur)
Jack White (The White Stripes)
Jason Becker
Jari Mäenpäa (Wintersun – Deathmetal/prog metal; man this guy owns everyone)
Jeff Beck (The Yardbirds, Upp, etc)
Jeff Loomis (Nevermore - Heavy Metal/PowerMetal/ProgressiveMetal/Alternative Metal)
Jesper Strömblad (In Flames – Death metal/heavy meal/progressive metal/Scandinavian metal)
Jim Matheos (Fates Warning)
Jimi Hendrix
Jimmy Page (Led Zeppelin)
Joe Satriani
John Squire (The Stone Roses, The Shining, etc)
Joe Walsh (The Eagles)
John Frusciante (Red Hot Chili Peppers)
John McLaughlin (Mahavishnu Orchestra, etc)
John Petrucci (Dream Theater, Liquid Tension Experiment)
Johnny Marr (The Smiths, Johnny Marr & the Healers, Electronic)
Jonny Greenwood (Radiohead)
Henrik Danhage (Evergrey – prog metal/heavy metal/power metal)
Herman Li (Dragonforce – Power metal/heavy metal/neo-classical metal)
K.K. Downing (Judas Priest)
Keith Richards (The Rolling Stones)
Kerry King (Slayer)
Kevin Shields (Experimental Audio Research, My Bloody Valentin)
Kirk Hammet (Metallica)
Kurt Cobain (Nirvana)
Marty Friedman (Megadeth)
Mats Haugen (Circus Maximus – Progressive metal)
Matt Bellamy (Muse)
Michael Amott (Arch Enemy)
Michael Angelo
Michael Romeo (Symphony X)
Mikael Åkerfeldt (Opeth)
Mike Holmes (IQ)
Neal Schon (Journey, Santana, etc)
Omar Alfredo Rodriguez-Lopez (The Mars Volta)
Paul Gilbert (Racer X, Mr. Big)
Peder Gustafsson (Meshuggah – every metal)
Peter Wiches ((early) Soilwork –Death metal/heavy meal/Scandinavian metal)
Phil Keaggy (Christian Rock/Folk)
Randy Rhoads (Quiet Riot)
Ritchie Blackmore (Deep Purple)
Robert Fripp (King Crimson)
Robert Johnson
Robert Smith (The Cure)
Ry Cooder (Little Village, etc)
Sam Totman (Dragonforce)
Shawn Angel
Slash (Guns ’n’ Roses)
Stephan Forté (Adagio –Hard to describe: Prog metal with classical influences – Just check 'em out if you haven't already)
Steve Hackett (Genesis)
Steve Howe (Yes)
Steve Morse (Deep Purple, Kansas, The Dixie Dregs)
Steve Rothery (Marillion)
Steve Vai
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Thomas Erak (The Fall of Troy - Experimental Rock)
Thomas Youngblood (Kamelot - Prog metal/power metal)
Trey Azagthoth (Morbid Angel – Death metal/heavy meal/thrash)
Yngwie Malmsteen
Zakk Wylde (Black Label Society – but he supported Ozzy Ozbourne for awhile)


Dark Lord 02-19-2006 11:20 AM

I went with Steve Vai.

Laces Out Dan! 02-20-2006 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo
Absolutely, listen to Dimebag, hes not a bad soloist, but his real skill is in his rhythm playing.

Robert Fripp is a solid rhythm player as well.

Brian may is also another great example of that

Seltzer 02-21-2006 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by _LesPaul43_
Brian may is also another great example of that

Brian May is one of most underrated guitarists around.

boo boo 02-25-2006 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don
Read the other posts about why Greenwood isn't on. And a mod added Coxon. Also check this out (on page 4):

I assume the main reason is your obvious bias against Radiohead.

The guy was a f*cking student in theory, hes a classicly trained musician and multi instrumentalist, other than guitar he plays violin, piano, organ, xylophone, synthesizer, harmonica, glockenspiel and the ondes martenot...He may not be your Steve Vai type virtuoso, but in terms of technical ability, hes more worthy of the poll than half of the guys you chose to include.

boo boo 02-25-2006 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _LesPaul43_
Brian may is also another great example of that

Indeed, he has one of the most perfect guitar tones ever designed...Listen to his playing on Good Company, you hear the sounds of clarinets, trombones and saxophones, but its all guitar.

halfdeadhippo 02-25-2006 03:08 PM

I voted for Zappa, on the basis that he had amazing compositional skills and was a largely underrated guitarist. In retrospect, Becker could've easily also recieved my vote because of his compositional skills being focused almost entirely into solo guitar pieces, whereas Zappa's skills involved other instruments as well.

judas_priest 02-26-2006 06:30 AM

Yeah, I agree with Becker. I didn't see him on the list first time. Its so sad that he can no longer play. Cacophony were really good.

boo boo 02-26-2006 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by judas_priest
Yeah, I agree with Becker. I didn't see him on the list first time. Its so sad that he can no longer play. Cacophony were really good.

Meh, hes really good, but his timing is rather sloppy, i wouldnt say hes among the most elite players in terms of technical ability.

judas_priest 02-27-2006 12:18 PM

I think he's very talented, but not necessarily the best. There are too many amazing guitarists to choose from. Do you not like his work in Cacophony?

Don 03-01-2006 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo
I assume the main reason is your obvious bias against Radiohead.

The guy was a f*cking student in theory, hes a classicly trained musician and multi instrumentalist, other than guitar he plays violin, piano, organ, xylophone, synthesizer, harmonica, glockenspiel and the ondes martenot...He may not be your Steve Vai type virtuoso, but in terms of technical ability, hes more worthy of the poll than half of the guys you chose to include.

lol. Actually I missed him because there's a timer and a limit on the poll. Radiohead is like one of my favourite bands, noob.

Laces Out Dan! 03-01-2006 05:02 PM

Fuc.k NO! This little phaggit as.s n00b just called BooBoo a noob.....what a jerk off...also that proves his noobishness..( < Not sure its a word)

TheBig3 03-01-2006 06:46 PM

Kirk Hammett

Laces Out Dan! 03-01-2006 07:20 PM

^ Huh?

boo boo 03-02-2006 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by judas_priest
I think he's very talented, but not necessarily the best. There are too many amazing guitarists to choose from. Do you not like his work in Cacophony?

I prefer his solo stuff actualy, dont like Cacophony, musicianship is important, but i think songwriting is just as important, which i never see as one of Cacophonys strong points, thats just me though.

Im just saying his technique is far from perfect in skill terms.

boo boo 03-02-2006 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog
Kirk Hammett

???

No offense, but i take it that you either....

1. Dont understand the main purpose of this poll.
2. You dont give a sh*t and instead go by your favorite as a form of protest against those who make a big deal out of technical ability.

Which one is it?

judas_priest 03-03-2006 04:22 PM

^ At least Kirk Hammett is talented. Two people voted for Kurt Cobain.

boo boo 03-04-2006 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by judas_priest
^ At least Kirk Hammett is talented. Two people voted for Kurt Cobain.

Cobain was a very talented songwriter...Thats where his talent was present, rather than his guitar playing.

Hes a decent guitar player in my opinion, though in skill terms he wouldnt make the top 3000.

Hammett is sloppy as f*cking hell sometimes, and he has been known for excessive overuse of the wammy bar.

hiu 03-04-2006 06:09 PM

The Wipers > Nirvana

boo boo 03-04-2006 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RazorsInTheNight
The Wipers > Nirvana

Nah.

Is This It? is great though.

judas_priest 03-05-2006 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo
Cobain was a very talented songwriter...Thats where his talent was present, rather than his guitar playing.

Hes a decent guitar player in my opinion, though in skill terms he wouldnt make the top 3000.

Hammett is sloppy as f*cking hell sometimes, and he has been known for excessive overuse of the wammy bar.

I'm not saying that Kirk is the best guitarist or anything but you can't say he's not good.
Also, In terms of songwriting, Metallica wrote far better songs than Nirvana ever did.

boo boo 03-05-2006 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by judas_priest
I'm not saying that Kirk is the best guitarist or anything but you can't say he's not good.
Also, In terms of songwriting, Metallica wrote far better songs than Nirvana ever did.

That my friend, is a completely subjective matter of opinion.

Seltzer 03-05-2006 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by judas_priest
I'm not saying that Kirk is the best guitarist or anything but you can't say he's not good.
Also, In terms of songwriting, Metallica wrote far better songs than Nirvana ever did.

I'd say Hammett isn't that great. But Hetfield is very good. I like the rhythm work in Metallica, and as far as I know, Hetfield wrote all the rhythm and acoustic parts in Metallica and a chunk of Hammett's solos. Not to mention, Hammett had nothing to do with Kill 'Em All either. By the time you take out all the stuff that Mustaine, Hetfield and Burton wrote, I don't think Hammett wrote that much.

I might be wrong. But it is hard to tell, because credits are never very specific as to who wrote what. I haven't heard his stuff in Exodus though.

PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe 03-05-2006 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
That my friend, is a completely subjective matter of opinion.

^very true. while kirk hammet may have quite a bit more technical skill than kurt cobain, cobain was appealing to a completely different audience. so the number of people that would say kurt cobain was a better guitarist, probably equal the number of people that would say that kirk hammet is the better guitarist.

personally, i think a lot of metal is quite recycled. this is not to say that grunge isnt, but i think that metal as a genre, is outplayed. there is so much of it that much of what is played, has been played a hundred times before.

boo boo 03-05-2006 11:42 AM

Alternative Rock, Punk and Progressive Rock > Metal. :D

judas_priest 03-05-2006 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo boo
That my friend, is a completely subjective matter of opinion.

True. I forgot to include the words, "in my opinion."

judas_priest 03-05-2006 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seltzer
I'd say Hammett isn't that great. But Hetfield is very good. I like the rhythm work in Metallica, and as far as I know, Hetfield wrote all the rhythm and acoustic parts in Metallica and a chunk of Hammett's solos. Not to mention, Hammett had nothing to do with Kill 'Em All either. By the time you take out all the stuff that Mustaine, Hetfield and Burton wrote, I don't think Hammett wrote that much.

I might be wrong. But it is hard to tell, because credits are never very specific as to who wrote what. I haven't heard his stuff in Exodus though.

Yeah, he had no input in Kill 'Em All which is an amazing album. I prefer Mustaine to Kirk. I agree that Het is very talented too.

Levithan 03-05-2006 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by judas_priest
Yeah, he had no input in Kill 'Em All which is an amazing album. I prefer Mustaine to Kirk. I agree that Het is very talented too.

Probably there best work, if you look at complexity and rif***e lol


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