The Smut and Sadism of Rock (techno, quote, artist, Ching)

~~Gates_of_Iscariot~~ · 03-12-2008, 04:59 PM

my kid will listen to slayer at birth \m/
seriously
i was never censored thats BS

i hope my kids go listen to mayhem in preschool

Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-12-2008, 05:01 PM

Quote:

* Billy Idol's "Dancing With Myself" has a naked woman struggling in chains behind a transparent sheet. The Jackson's "Torture" shows women whipping skeletons and attacking men with claws and swords. Images of devil worship abound.

I love it how she was totally oblivious to the fact the entire song was about masturbation.

pheurton · 03-12-2008, 05:05 PM

People should be subjected to all art forms,
whether young or old. Plus, keeping something
hidden from a kid wont solve anything; but
subjecting them to it will solve everything.
EVERYTHING

cardboard adolescent · 03-12-2008, 05:11 PM

if kids don't get smut and sadism from rock n' roll,
where are they gonna get it?!

sweet_nothing · 03-12-2008, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent

if kids don't get smut and sadism from rock n' roll,
where are they gonna get it?!

From their parents and the chruch.

Predator · 03-12-2008, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

Pointing the finger at artistic expression is an inadequate way of absolving yourself of parental responsibility.
There will always be garbage out there and if you can't communicate with your children about it perhaps THAT'S what you should be worried about, not the lyrics to a hip hop song.

Exactly. All to often parents, politicians, religious leaders and so on want to blame everything but themselves. Johnny stole a car so he must have gotten the idea from a video game. Billy robbed a store and shot the clerk, he must have gotten the idea from a rap star. Sarah sleeps with everyone she meets, it must be that hip hop song. Why can't anyone take responsibility? If my kids knock off a 7-11, its because I failed at teaching them what is right and wrong. It was me that failed to teach them responsibility.

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Originally Posted by Comus

Even at the time all those stickers did was ensure sales of the CD.

You have to consider the stores that either will not sell music with the stickers or won't sell it to minors. I went into many stores that would not sell me music with the sticker. There are plenty of stores that will not sell anything with the sticker.

tkpb938 · 03-12-2008, 10:15 PM

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You have to consider the stores that either will not sell music with the stickers or won't sell it to minors. I went into many stores that would not sell me music with the sticker. There are plenty of stores that will not sell anything with the sticker.

Wal-Mart is the only mainstream CD seller I know that won't sell explicit CD's.

Predator · 03-12-2008, 11:04 PM

I buy all my music from either Borders or Amazon now, but in the past I have found that if I wanted uncensored music, I had to go to a music store. I can't speak for today, but I know that in the past most large retail stores took the same point as Wal Mart. There was a while when I lived in NC that there was 1 local record store that would sell albums with the sticker. Eventually, the other stores learned that this stand was bad for revenue. Sure, you set "high moral standards" but you were losing money at the same time.

EDIT: I left NC in 91 or 92.

jackhammer · 03-13-2008, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Predator

Exactly. All to often parents, politicians, religious leaders and so on want to blame everything but themselves. Johnny stole a car so he must have gotten the idea from a video game. Billy robbed a store and shot the clerk, he must have gotten the idea from a rap star. Sarah sleeps with everyone she meets, it must be that hip hop song. Why can't anyone take responsibility? If my kids knock off a 7-11, its because I failed at teaching them what is right and wrong. It was me that failed to teach them responsibility.

Parents can only do so much in educating their children. Peer pressure is an even bigger problem for children today and wanting to fit into a crowd can sometimes override whatever the childs upbringing. My eldest son is 14 and listens to commercial Hip Hop (I have tried and failed to get him off it!) which of course is misogonystic, full of expletives, glorifies crime and gang culture yet he does'nt hang around street corners, never causes any trouble and is polite to anyone he encounters. The problems are much deeper and complicated than you say. parents have a MASSIVE responsibility of that there is no doubt, but not everything is the parents fault.

Technology has got to a point where it saturates childrens lives and they are subjected to far more stimuli than when I was growing up, it is obvious that some media will influence children but no one section of it is responsible for bad behaviour.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-13-2008, 01:56 PM

Me & my parents had a deal going when I was growing up.

I could watch whatever film I liked listen to whatever music I liked as long as I didn't get into any trouble.

It worked 99% of the time.

03-12-2008, 11:04 PM	#18 (permalink)
Predator Whatever Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 344	I buy all my music from either Borders or Amazon now, but in the past I have found that if I wanted uncensored music, I had to go to a music store. I can't speak for today, but I know that in the past most large retail stores took the same point as Wal Mart. There was a while when I lived in NC that there was 1 local record store that would sell albums with the sticker. Eventually, the other stores learned that this stand was bad for revenue. Sure, you set "high moral standards" but you were losing money at the same time. EDIT: I left NC in 91 or 92. __________________ Jack be nimble Jack be quick I be a lunatic The answer is hidden in plain view. [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

03-13-2008, 01:56 PM	#20 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Me & my parents had a deal going when I was growing up. I could watch whatever film I liked listen to whatever music I liked as long as I didn't get into any trouble. It worked 99% of the time. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

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pheurton n/a Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 990	People should be subjected to all art forms, whether young or old. Plus, keeping something hidden from a kid wont solve anything; but subjecting them to it will solve everything. EVERYTHING

03-12-2008, 05:11 PM	#14 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	if kids don't get smut and sadism from rock n' roll, where are they gonna get it?!