What Are You listening To V.III Metal!

Wpnfire · 07-02-2014, 09:27 PM

I'd like to note my opposition to using the name "Q Man" for Quorthon. Totally makes him sound less like a bad ass black metal musician.

The Batlord · 07-02-2014, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire

I'd like to note my opposition to using the name "Q Man" for Quorthon. Totally makes him sound less like a bad ass black metal musician.

Allow me to ruin Quorthon for you with an interview he did for some website...

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Maelstrom: It's funny. I was interviewing Barney Greenway from Napalm Death and he was saying that some skinhead bands have taken Manowar in a similar context in their true, Aryan pride. But, no, a lot of the bands are from Poland or France or Germany.

Quorthon: Well, I think that it's great that they're playing music and getting to some kind of disciplined activity rather than just hanging around kicking people in the head. But if we try to look at it in a race (negative) point of view, why not include hip hop? That's Black Panther, "I'm gonna shoot you, you White mother****er," all over again. People are not talking about hip hop because we're white and we're guilty because of slavery and the Holocaust. If it's White racism, it's bad, but if it's racism from any other color, it's "how can we serve you?" So, I don't see the problem. I disconnected all that kind of discussion when we put out an album called Hammerheart. We had a sunwheel on the back of the album, and people - especially in Germany, 'cause they're the most paranoid people in the world, anyway - got very upset about it 'cause they thought we had serious Nazi connections.

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Maelstrom: I thought it was interesting about what you were talking about concerning selective racism. I think I may have the same views as you… I don't approve of White power groups' views, but if rappers can be racist against groups of people, then….

Quorthon: Well, it's fashion. It's White, Christian, fat society putting a lot of gangsters from the 'hood on stage and thinking, "oh, this is kid's culture." A couple years back you had Tipper Gore putting labels on metal records, getting upset about something she couldn't understand. You have all these Christian nutcases playing Madonna records backwards instead of chasing bands like Dimmu Borgir. But acts of the extreme metal scene will not attract the same kind of attention, so they will not go for those guys. The mainstream, western, Christian, fat, capitalist person wouldn't understand or know anything about Dimmu Borgir or Bathory anyways. They will go for anything that will give them a big forum for their opinions. I've seen a talk show with a Neo-Nazi and a big, fat Negro saying, "the Bible is the true book," and they refer to the same phrases in the same ****ing book. So, we shouldn't look at symbols as something evil; symbols in themselves are innocent. People have different colors and cultures and languages. It's the same thing as "true" black metal and "false" black metal: a lot of people with too much spare time and too few ideas of their own.

Wpnfire · 07-02-2014, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Allow me to ruin Quorthon for you with an interview he did for some website...

The **** is he saying?? I read all that like twice and I still have no idea what to think of it. He sounds like a considerably intelligent guy (or maybe ideologically driven... o_0??), and I know Quorthon wasn't at all part of the whole ideologically driven black metal scene, but he sounds way more normal than even that.

He seems more like a normal guy that just happened to create music that helped lead to the creation of an entire sub-genre of heavy metal than what I thought of him.

EDIT: nevermind I think I understand what he's talking about. Yeah he sounds, not the complete opposite I knew he was semi-normal guy before, but he sounds like a MOSTLY normal guy.

Also, Briks I see you've fallen further into darkness...it's weird that we are descending at almost the exact same time, but from slightly different areas of metal.

The Batlord · 07-03-2014, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire

Also, Briks I see you've fallen further into darkness...it's weird that we are descending at almost the exact same time, but from slightly different areas of metal.

I imagine he's talking about the whole Varg Vikerness from Burzum being a neo-Nazi thing.

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Isbjørn · 07-03-2014, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire

Also, Briks I see you've fallen further into darkness...it's weird that we are descending at almost the exact same time, but from slightly different areas of metal.

Totally. I'm a "dragons and swords" kind of metalhead, while you come off as more of a "fighting in the streets" metalhead. Oh, and I must admit, whenever I check this thread, I take a look at your posts to see if you've stumbled across some new, tasty black metal stuff.

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I imagine he's talking about the whole Varg Vikerness from Burzum being a neo-Nazi thing.

I was, I find it weird to be enjoying the art of some murderous sicko who believes in Hitler's Arian race thing.

Wpnfire · 07-03-2014, 10:42 PM

This is probably the most pop-friendly thrash song I've ever heard, but that riff is great, the vocals and lyrics are great ((a rare compliment from me)), and the solo is much more my speed. One of the most well-rounded thrash songs I've heard in quite some time.

This song has renewed my interest in Anthrax considerably. Great stuff.

The Batlord · 07-03-2014, 11:20 PM

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I was, I find it weird to be enjoying the art of some murderous sicko who believes in Hitler's Arian race thing.

It's not weird at all. I don't know if you get the History Channel on your side of the pond, but it's, you know, about history, and every other show is about Hitler or Nazis or WWII or the Holocaust, and it's not because the audience is just so intent on learning from the mistakes of the past. It's because Nazis are morbidly fascinating to the point where it's an economically sound practice for a TV channel to cater so much to this fascination.

It's actually a good thing when you think about it. Staring at pictures of Holocaust survivors may not have any other worth all by itself, but from an evolutionary stand point it may very well be essential to have this kind of obsession with the morbid. If you're a deer and you don't pay attention to the deer carcass lying a few feet from you you may not realize that it died from eating poisonous plants, or wolves, or a hunter, or whatever. But if deer-Briks just can't help but stare then he may learn something valuable that might increase his odds of survival.

And the best way to get somebody to do something is to make it pleasurable. I mean, is there really any good reason to make sex feel good other than to entice people/animals to do it? So don't feel guilty about listening to Burzum. I don't listen to any band just for that kind of cheap thrill, but if I dig a band and they've got some kind of weird, creepy thing going on then it certainly adds a bit of spice.

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This is probably the most pop-friendly thrash song I've ever heard, but that riff is great, the vocals and lyrics are great ((a rare compliment from me)), and the solo is much more my speed. One of the most well-rounded thrash songs I've heard in quite some time.

This song has renewed my interest in Anthrax considerably. Great stuff.

Love that album. The thrash style is as developed as on Among the Living, but Joey Belladonna's vocals would never be that soaring again, since he reigned it in to go with the more straight-up thrash Anthrax sound after this album. He's just full-on Bruce Dickinson on here and I don't know if there's a metal album I like singing out loud to.

Wpnfire · 07-03-2014, 11:34 PM

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It's not weird at all. I don't know if you get the History Channel on your side of the pond, but it's, you know, about history, and every other show is about Hitler or Nazis or WWII or the Holocaust, and it's not because the audience is just so intent on learning from the mistakes of the past. It's because Nazis are morbidly fascinating to the point where it's an economically sound practice for a TV channel to cater so much to this fascination.

It's actually a good thing when you think about it. Staring at pictures of Holocaust survivors may not have any other worth all by itself, but from an evolutionary stand point it may very well be essential to have this kind of obsession with the morbid. If you're a deer and you don't pay attention to the deer carcass lying a few feet from you you may not realize that it died from eating poisonous plants, or wolves, or a hunter, or whatever. But if deer-Briks just can't help but stare then he may learn something valuable that might increase his odds of survival.

Interesting points. I agree.

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deer-Briks

lol. Deer Briks. May have to start calling him that.

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Love that album. The thrash style is as developed as on Among the Living, but Joey Belladonna's vocals would never be that soaring again, since he reigned it in to go with the more straight-up thrash Anthrax sound after this album. He's just full-on Bruce Dickinson on here and I don't know if there's a metal album I like singing out loud to.

I also find the cover fascinating, like what the hell are they doing to that guy?? So many questions with that cover.. Also it's REALLY well drawn and quite vibrant.

The Batlord · 07-03-2014, 11:43 PM

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I also find the cover fascinating, like what the hell are they doing to that guy?? So many questions with that cover.. Also it's REALLY well drawn and quite vibrant.

Well it looks like they have a Geiger counter on him so I imagine society is trying to figure out what's wrong with metalheads and if it's contagious. Obviously it is.

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Wpnfire Dragon Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Kansas, United States Posts: 2,744	This is probably the most pop-friendly thrash song I've ever heard, but that riff is great, the vocals and lyrics are great ((a rare compliment from me)), and the solo is much more my speed. One of the most well-rounded thrash songs I've heard in quite some time. This song has renewed my interest in Anthrax considerably. Great stuff. __________________ Last.FM My RYM Ratings *My Glitchwave Beta Profile* Last edited by Wpnfire; 07-03-2014 at 10:48 PM.