Why I hate Metallica (lyric, mp3, albums, u2, quote)

jackhammer · 01-06-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

It's happened to other bands before. And while I can't say that I enjoyed their last album, it certainly was a return to their pre-Black Album sound. For the record, Ride the Lightning shits on about 95% of other thrash albums.

To be fair there is a hell of a lot of derivative Thrash out there and genuinely GREAT albums that have stood the test of time are relatively small in comparison to how much was released. The only thing that let's Ride The Lightning down for me is the production. It's a little wooly but I usually alternate between 'Ride' and 'Master' for favourite although I haven't listened to any for a long while now.

lucifer_sam · 01-06-2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

To be fair there is a hell of a lot of derivative Thrash out there and genuinely GREAT albums that have stood the test of time are relatively small in comparison to how much was released. The only thing that let's Ride The Lightning down for me is the production. It's a little wooly but I usually alternate between 'Ride' and 'Master' for favourite although I haven't listened to any for a long while now.

That's why I said it. I can't honestly claim that it's the best thrash album of all time, but I'm more than familiar with the surfeit of derivative tosh that got mixed in. I've never really noticed the production on Ride the Lightning (sans Fade to Black), but I can imagine it's worse than MOP.

GravitySlips · 01-06-2009, 02:38 PM

I find myself LOVING early metallica albums since I actually gave them a chance.

Kill 'Em All is my favourite. Fu'cking awesome record.

scottsy · 01-07-2009, 10:22 PM

That's one place my collection hasn't stretched out into... early metallica - I really should check some of their early stuff out, considering everyone most definitely regards their earliest stuff their heyday...

Mojo · 01-08-2009, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by scottsy

That's one place my collection hasn't stretched out into... early metallica - I really should check some of their early stuff out, considering everyone most definitely regards their earliest stuff their heyday...

Oh yes, had they stopped after "...And Justice For All" they would have been a damn near perfect metal band in my opinion. However that has not been the case.

PinkWolf · 01-08-2009, 09:21 AM

There is a difference between fanbase and musicians. Fanbase 'rejuvenates' itself, new kids start listening to the old stuff and expect all of the albums to sound the same. Musicians don't. They age and with maturity they tend to look for different styles..and guess what, if it happens to a rock/metal band, they'll get critisized, called sellouts/washouts etc..

**Janszoon** · 01-08-2009, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PinkWolf

There is a difference between fanbase and musicians. Fanbase 'rejuvenates' itself, new kids start listening to the old stuff and expect all of the albums to sound the same. Musicians don't. They age and with maturity they tend to look for different styles..and guess what, if it happens to a rock/metal band, they'll get critisized, called sellouts/washouts etc..

I think it depends. There are some bands who change a lot and still manage to retain their fans. The key is making sure that you are still making good music as you change.

PinkWolf · 01-08-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I think it depends. There are some bands who change a lot and still manage to retain their fans. The key is making sure that you are still making good music as you change.

Yeah but the definition of "good music" is very subjective. As I said, I really liked Load/Reload especially what James did with the vocals ie. the arrangments etc. but some people hated it plain and simple and trashed it all over the internet.

Same could be said about St. Anger. Some people like the raw sound some people were like, wtf?

I don't think you can keep all of your fanbase unless you're not willing to take any chances and play it safe and even that doesn't guarantee a success.

scottsy · 01-08-2009, 09:04 PM

I perosnally wasn'tr a big fan of Metallica but St. Anger was the first of their albums I paid attention to in a big way - I liked the whole rpemise of the albums lyrical concepts, and the new sound was raw and refreshing in my opinion... and for some reason I have a deep and affecting love of albums that piss off a band's die hard fanbase.... i dunno what it is... I guess I am just a bastard underneath it all.... hahahahahaha

the shining · 01-08-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by scottsy

I perosnally wasn'tr a big fan of Metallica but St. Anger was the first of their albums I paid attention to in a big way - I liked the whole rpemise of the albums lyrical concepts, and the new sound was raw and refreshing in my opinion... and for some reason I have a deep and affecting love of albums that piss off a band's die hard fanbase.... i dunno what it is... I guess I am just a bastard underneath it all.... hahahahahaha

the only good song from that album was envisable kid i thought. the most anoying part of the album was the drums they were just terrible

01-07-2009, 10:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
scottsy Untalented Drummer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sussex, Wisconsin Posts: 2,900	That's one place my collection hasn't stretched out into... early metallica - I really should check some of their early stuff out, considering everyone most definitely regards their earliest stuff their heyday... __________________ "If you're like me, then it's possible you're a clone generated from my stolen DNA. I suggest you turn yourself in for destruction immediately" - Shaun Micallef.

01-08-2009, 09:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
scottsy Untalented Drummer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sussex, Wisconsin Posts: 2,900	I perosnally wasn'tr a big fan of Metallica but St. Anger was the first of their albums I paid attention to in a big way - I liked the whole rpemise of the albums lyrical concepts, and the new sound was raw and refreshing in my opinion... and for some reason I have a deep and affecting love of albums that piss off a band's die hard fanbase.... i dunno what it is... I guess I am just a bastard underneath it all.... hahahahahaha __________________ "If you're like me, then it's possible you're a clone generated from my stolen DNA. I suggest you turn yourself in for destruction immediately" - Shaun Micallef.

01-06-2009, 02:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
GravitySlips Music Addict Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,578	I find myself LOVING early metallica albums since I actually gave them a chance. Kill 'Em All is my favourite. Fu'cking awesome record.

01-08-2009, 09:21 AM	#6 (permalink)
PinkWolf Groupie Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 16	There is a difference between fanbase and musicians. Fanbase 'rejuvenates' itself, new kids start listening to the old stuff and expect all of the albums to sound the same. Musicians don't. They age and with maturity they tend to look for different styles..and guess what, if it happens to a rock/metal band, they'll get critisized, called sellouts/washouts etc..