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Old 12-15-2012, 10:29 AM   #71 (permalink)
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I sincerely apologize for overlooking your post, its one of quality, normal posts here, without too much hate or bull****.

I've met too many narrow-minded *******s from fanbases of mentioned genres.

I don't like emo culture, but I'm never going to be rude to them or hate them, you know why? Because they keep their music to themselves and don't go around judging and annoying others thinking they have the right to tell others what is good music and what isn't. Too many fans of certain metal genres(classic rock too) do that, which is VERY annoying.

Its odd that you say I'll move on to those bands cause one other guy I met said the same thing. I'm still young(17y) and I've had a talk with one of rare nice metalheads and he too said that I'll eventually move on to other, more extreme metal genres and that Nu is just an introduction to metal. I don't think that's gonna happen though, only Nu Metal bands that I got bored of are Linkin Park, and they are the first Nu Metal band I heard.
You know, I originally took you for another troll, but I now recognize you as sincere.

I know it's impossible to see, but you're only 17. I'm only 20. In the last three years, I have grown and my mind has expanded in ways I didn't even know possible. You are still young, and most of the people you know are (probably) about your age. Keep in mind that at 17, everyone is a caricature. Metalheads are are tr00, jocks are all bullies, emos are all depressed, rap fans are all gang members, etc. etc. etc. Everyone is trying to fit into whatever preconceived stereotype they have been put into, for fear of retribution if they get out.

I know plenty of metalheads that are my age or older, including many on this very site. The same people that are listening to deathgrind or black metal are also friendly, approachable, kindhearted human beings. Not only that, but they are accepting of a wide variety of genres. Many of them still don't like nu metal, but that's not from having closed minds, it's from frequently listening to really, really good metal of other sorts and recognizing that most (though not all) nu metal has rather sub par song writing, and was a cash-grab, for the most part.

On that note, I never thought I would ever, ever, ever get into extreme metal of any sort, and just stick with my old school heavy metal forever, but I've been proven wrong. Never say never, if you have an open mind, eventually you may be proven wrong... and you'll like it.

So long story short, not all metalheads are *******s. The ones that are have closed minds. Don't be like them, stay open to new stuff, even the stuff that THEY like.
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I sincerely apologize for overlooking your post, its one of quality, normal posts here, without too much hate or bull****.

I've met too many narrow-minded *******s from fanbases of mentioned genres.

I don't like emo culture, but I'm never going to be rude to them or hate them, you know why? Because they keep their music to themselves and don't go around judging and annoying others thinking they have the right to tell others what is good music and what isn't. Too many fans of certain metal genres(classic rock too) do that, which is VERY annoying.

Its odd that you say I'll move on to those bands cause one other guy I met said the same thing. I'm still young(17y) and I've had a talk with one of rare nice metalheads and he too said that I'll eventually move on to other, more extreme metal genres and that Nu is just an introduction to metal. I don't think that's gonna happen though, only Nu Metal bands that I got bored of are Linkin Park, and they are the first Nu Metal band I heard.
A lot of genres have some very narrow-minded music fans, not just metal. I've seen it with punk and even pop music. I was 17 once too and I listened to plenty of bands that were often ridiculed at the time. But I didn't let that get to me and I even thought that I would be listening to them forever. But peoples music tastes evolve over time and eventually I grew out of them and got into what seemed like more interesting stuff to me. Hell, even I didn't like emo culture at the time but eventually I realised that what I thought was emo wasn't actually emo, but that's a story for another thread.

All teens seem to be more conscience of their music taste and what other people think of them because they have a desire to fit in somewhere. Once you hit your late teens or early twenties you just learn not to give a **** what other people think of you, and it's better that way. You can listen to Limp Bizkit and Slipknot all you want, I'm not going to give you much stick for it, but when you insult other people for what they listen to or say that your taste in music is better than everyone else's, it's no surprise that you'll get it back in return.
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:54 AM   #73 (permalink)
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Music for kids that want to pretend they're hardcore is Thrash/Heavy/Death/Black metal.

Limp Bizkit and SlipKnot are too infamous for poser kids that want to be "tr00"
I don't know any kids who listen to those genres really. They usually evolve out of their nu metal stage, and start to appreciate better, more mature music that actually challenges your mind. Music that actually has a certain level of sophistication.
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:59 AM   #74 (permalink)
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I don't know any kids who listen to those genres really. They usually evolve out of their nu metal stage, and start to appreciate better, more mature music that actually challenges your mind. Music that actually has a certain level of sophistication.
Exactly that, it's why I call Slipknot "Fisher-Price Metal"
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:07 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Exactly that, it's why I call Slipknot "Fisher-Price Metal"
I believe the technical term is "mallcore".

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A bastardized genre of music in which the distorted guitars and agressive vocals of hardcore and heavy metal are dumbed down musically and then packaged to be marketable to angst-ridden teens. The name is derived from the "-core" system often used to name metal and punk varients such as hardcore, metalcore and emocore, and is so named because it targets your standard mall-going teens rather than real music enthusiasts, who nearly unanimously dismiss it as garbage. It can be characterized by chugging riffs based around basic (and often no) progression, and angsty yelled or rapped vocals. The lyrical content often complains about the unfairness of teenage situation, parents, school, or in rare cases politics. There is very little place for any musical innovation, and electronic effects and samples have taken the place of guitar solos and the like in 90% of the genre's bands.
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I always thought Duality was pretty catchy, but I never really liked Slipknot, even when I liked nu-metal....
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Old 12-15-2012, 01:51 PM   #77 (permalink)
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I don't know any kids who listen to those genres really. They usually evolve out of their nu metal stage, and start to appreciate better, more mature music that actually challenges your mind. Music that actually has a certain level of sophistication.
Your kind of people is what makes me despise metal genres I listed. I just don't see why that kind of music would require sophistication or much talent. All I hear when I listen to thrash/death metal is mindless guitar bashing and some angry vocals. I don't hear rhythm or any meaning to it. And then people who listen to that crappy mess dare to tell me Nu Metal is bad while what they listen is sophisticated LOL? It just doesn't make any sense.

Music is art, its not science. It doesn't have to be complex to be good. I don't care if some guitarist can play 223689 notes in one second, if it sounds bad then its bad music. Anybody with some music knowledge can just write random notes and play them in fast rhythm, but to make it sound good is what makes an artist.

Look at these guys F.E.


DYING FETUS - "Your Treachery Will Die With You" - YouTube

Is that sophisticated? Ok, I'll give them one thing. They're hilarious. And first time I heard 2:15 I literally laughed to tears

But to say THAT kind of music is sophisticated? DAFUQ
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You do understand stand that a lot of the bands you're disparaging here were a huge influence on the bands you love, right?
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You know, I just realized that my long, well-thought out post (for me, at least) was completely wasted.
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You know, I just realized that my long, well-thought out post (for me, at least) was completely wasted.
Listen dude, I don't mind you listening to Dying Fetus but to say stuff like that is more meaningful/sophisticated than Nu Metal is just bull**** and you know it.

Janszoon most Nu Metal bands are more similar to alternative and industrial than genres I listed.
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