The Metallica Paradox.

FRED HALE SR. · 03-19-2013, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Norg

i was never a big metallica fan i actually first got into them around the Fuel and reload days i acctually liked thoes albums seemed like they were going more darker and Alice n chains like

the first album i got from them was acctually there cover album just to learn about all the bands that influnced them

my first exposer to Metallica was acctually the Dragonball video of them with Hero i think playing in the background LOL

so to me the story with there first 3 albums then THe black album really didnt phase me couldnt care less

I actually quite liked Garage Days Revisited/Cover album. I'm a staunch supporter of the first four records including that. They left my market when they released the Black album it was quite a shock they changed their sound so much. There were a few bluesy tunes I liked on that album, but I wasn't exactly happy with the overall purchase. I'm surprised there are so many people that don't consider the Kill Em All album great, I go through months where I find it their best.

The Batlord · 03-20-2013, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

I'm surprised there are so many people that don't consider the Kill Em All album great, I go through months where I find it their best.

Hell yeah. You can call it a thrash album, but it's really just one of the greatest and most intense straight up heavy metal albums ever made. Like Holocaust and Diamond Head combined with hardcore punk.

Mojo · 03-20-2013, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

For people of a certain genre.

Exactly. Threres a strong argument to be made that the Black Album is their crowning achievement.

**Janszoon** · 03-20-2013, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk

Exactly. Threres a strong argument to be made that the Black Album is their crowning achievement.

In terms of units sold, sure. But I was talking in terms of quality.

The Batlord · 03-20-2013, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk

Exactly. Threres a strong argument to be made that the Black Album is their crowning achievement.

Blech. Even if you like their later work, I'd still take Load over the Black Album any day.

Mojo · 03-20-2013, 10:34 AM

Yeah, but what qualifies as quality is a preference. The Black Album brought Metallica to a mainstream audience, possibly an audience who prefer that album to anything that came before it and whose opinion would be very different. So the one thing that isn't arguable is that it outsold any other metal album ever made (unless you want to class Led Zep, AC/DC and GnR as metal bands) and that, in itself, could be considered a crowning achievement.

Mojo · 03-20-2013, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Blech. Even if you like their later work, I'd still take Load over the Black Album any day.

I didn't say I liked their later work more than their earlier work.

Plankton · 03-20-2013, 10:40 AM

When you go from "My Mother was a witch" to some lame version of a nursery rhyme, it's time to throw in the towel.

**Janszoon** · 03-20-2013, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk

Yeah, but what qualifies as quality is a preference. The Black Album brought Metallica to a mainstream audience, possibly an audience who prefer that album to anything that came before it and whose opinion would be very different. So the one thing that isn't arguable is that it outsold any other metal album ever made (unless you want to class Led Zep, AC/DC and GnR as metal bands) and that, in itself, could be considered a crowning achievement.

Yes, of course it's a preference. I was giving my personal opinion on the quality of the album. It's not a bad album, but I don't think it's their crowning achievement. I prefer any of the three albums that immediately preceded it. The fact that was so popular is neither here nor there to me in terms of my personal assessment of the album's quality. The simple fact is, when I'm in the mood for Metallica, it's not an album I'm very likely to reach for.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-20-2013, 11:40 AM

It's a shame now that when you say Garage Days people think of the dull album rather than the really good E.P.

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