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Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 07-29-2010 12:50 AM

Always a fan of Rush. One of the few bands that I can say has entirely a sound of it's own, really, and worlds of respect for the uniqueness, and quality of their mellow melodic songwriting style.

Strange though, no matter how complex, or heavy(by 70s standards) they can get at times they're always so unbelievably calming. Amazing band.

debaserr 07-29-2010 09:11 PM

you can delete it yourself if you go to edit. but yes! get moving pictures! that was a pretty fun movie too.

fritter 07-30-2010 02:33 AM

The members of Rush have technical skill but their songs are pretentious bull****.

boo boo 07-30-2010 03:54 AM

List off your favorite bands and I'll be the judge of weither or not you know what pretentious bullsh*t is.

fritter 07-30-2010 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 909265)
List off your favorite bands and I'll be the judge of weither or not you know what pretentious bullsh*t is.

The Clash, Motley Crue, Thin Lizzy and The Stooges. And I can tell from your last.fm profile you're really into prog rock. You are in no place to judge me.

debaserr 07-30-2010 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by fritter (Post 909336)
The Clash, Motley Crue, Thin Lizzy and The Stooges. And I can tell from your last.fm profile you're really into prog rock. You are in no place to judge me.

i don't like any of these. :bonkhead:

DreamTheater 07-30-2010 10:12 AM

Goody a Rush thread! I like The Trees, Tom Sawyer (of course), The Spirit of Radio, pretty much mainstream stuff, but my favorite song by them is YYZ from Moving Pictures.

Necromancer 07-30-2010 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by fritter (Post 909336)
The Clash, Motley Crue, Thin Lizzy and The Stooges. And I can tell from your last.fm profile you're really into prog rock. You are in no place to judge me.

These bands listed are not really notable bands that are usually considered progressive rock, if that is what you are referring to in the above list? Motley Crue was a good band musically, for my taste, "but only if they had a different lead vocalist" other than Vince Neil.., I always liked a few songs by Thin Lizzy (classic), but the more popular progressive rock bands would be bands like.. Yes, Pink Floyd, Genesis, and Rush, before the peak of progressive rock in the '70s.
"I am not judging your musical tastes or opinion in anyway, your favorite bands are of your own personal preference and opinion". :)

debaserr 07-30-2010 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by VocalsBass (Post 909449)
These bands listed are not really notable bands that are usually considered progressive rock, if that is what you are referring to in the above list? Motley Crue was a good band musically, for my taste, "but only if they had a different lead vocalist" other than Vince Neil.., I always liked a few songs by Thin Lizzy (classic), but the more popular progressive rock bands would be bands like.. Yes, Pink Floyd, Genesis, and Rush, before the peak of progressive rock in the '70s.
"I am not judging your musical tastes or opinion in anyway, your favorite bands are of your own personal preference and opinion". :)

in his previous post he discounted boo boo's taste because his last.fm had a lot of prog acts. pretty sure he didn't mean this to be his top 4 prog acts of all time list.

fritter 07-30-2010 11:14 PM

yeah trace87 that's what I meant. And for the record I just think prog rock in general is pretentious, not necessarily in bad taste.

debaserr 07-30-2010 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fritter (Post 909868)
yeah trace87 that's what I meant. And I was implying prog rock was more pretentious than the music I like, not worse or in poorer taste.

well you came off as a person who wanted to discount prog in general. and my post stated nothing of that sort.

fritter 07-30-2010 11:24 PM

you said I discounted his taste

debaserr 07-30-2010 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by fritter (Post 909877)
you said I discounted his taste

yes, on the basis of a high number of prog acts on his last.fm. thus, discounting prog in general.

fritter 07-30-2010 11:47 PM

Okay well if you mean I was dismissing his music as pretentious and thus saying he is no place to judge if I know what pretentious bull**** is, then yeah that's what I was doing. I guess I was kind of being a jerk, sorry. Anyways, this thread should go back to being about Rush, not stuff I said.

debaserr 07-30-2010 11:49 PM

once again you display little skill in deciphering my posts.

fritter 07-31-2010 12:20 AM

why do you care?

debaserr 07-31-2010 12:21 AM

i was being sarcrastic. i would think anyone could understand it. you just imprinted your thoughts onto my statement in your other post.

boo boo 07-31-2010 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by fritter (Post 909868)
yeah trace87 that's what I meant. And for the record I just think prog rock in general is pretentious, not necessarily in bad taste.

Nothing is more pretentious than punk and indie, really.

But music is pretentious in general, in fact I find art and the very idea of it to be pretentious. What's so automatically bad about being pretentious anyway?

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Originally Posted by fritter (Post 909336)
The Clash, Motley Crue, Thin Lizzy and The Stooges. And I can tell from your last.fm profile you're really into prog rock. You are in no place to judge me.

The Clash and Thin Lizzy are legit, The Stooges are absurdly overrated (Raw Power is great but Fun House is boring) and Motley Crue are a band I'm not even gonna bother rating.

fritter 08-03-2010 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 909972)
Nothing is more pretentious than punk and indie, really.

But music is pretentious in general, in fact I find art and the very idea of it to be pretentious. What's so automatically bad about being pretentious anyway?

The Clash and Thin Lizzy are legit, The Stooges are absurdly overrated (Raw Power is great but Fun House is boring) and Motley Crue are a band I'm not even gonna bother rating.

I guess you're right about music and art being pretentious in general, and nothing being automatically bad about being pretentious. I just personally dislike the music I consider pretentious.

However, punk rock is relatively unpretentious music. It's stripped-down rock and roll with simple chord structures and no lengthy guitar solos.

The Stooges are sort of overrated but only among critics and serious music fans. The vast majority of people have no idea who they are.

Unknown Soldier 08-03-2010 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by fritter (Post 912173)
I guess you're right about music and art being pretentious in general, and nothing being automatically bad about being pretentious. I just personally dislike the music I consider pretentious.

However, punk rock is relatively unpretentious music. It's stripped-down rock and roll with simple chord structures and no lengthy guitar solos.

The Stooges are sort of overrated but only among critics and serious music fans. The vast majority of people have no idea who they are.

The only reason why their overrated, is that they were probably the first proto-punk group out there, and kind of seen as one of the true founders of the genre. I don`t think of the first three stooges albums as classic from a music perspective but I certainly do from an image and attitude perspective. For the record I like the Stooges a lot and have the first three albums, with "Fun House" the pick of the three.

jastrub 11-07-2010 02:58 PM

[poll] Rush Epics
 
What's your favorite Rush epic and why?

This is a continuation of a dead thread

jastrub 11-07-2010 04:18 PM

Hey, what do you guys think of the album Roll the Bones. My friends laugh at me for liking it but I think it's the best post-1985 Rush out there. What are your opinions?

Unknown Soldier 11-08-2010 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jastrub (Post 953633)
Hey, what do you guys think of the album Roll the Bones. My friends laugh at me for liking it but I think it's the best post-1985 Rush out there. What are your opinions?

Its one of the poorest albums in the whole Rush discography, in fact the late 80`s and early 90`s were a terrible period for the band.

jastrub 11-08-2010 03:31 PM

Well I'd agree, but I think it is probably the best album from that period. I'd even argue it is the best post-1990 Rush album.

RMR 11-28-2010 04:22 PM

I voted for "Hemispheres".

I actually prefer "Natural Science," and the "The Camera Eye" as songs, and I do consider them epics, but I think of "Hemispheres" as more of a true epic because of length.

jastrub 11-28-2010 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RMR (Post 961906)
I voted for "Hemispheres".

I actually prefer "Natural Science," and the "The Camera Eye" as songs, and I do consider them epics, but I think of "Hemispheres" as more of a true epic because of length.

Yesterday after returning home from visiting relatives in West Virginia's foothills, I drove through New York City, and the drive was just long enough where I could play the camera eye all the way through. It was a perfect 11 minutes of my life.

Samuel James O'Kelly 12-07-2010 05:32 PM

I like Rush. Not a big fan, but I really like Alex's guitar work.

Batty 12-07-2010 05:49 PM

Awesome band, one of my all time greats.

Hitting_Singularity 12-13-2010 10:33 AM

had to give it to 2112, though Xanadu and Cygnus X-I are also some of my favorite songs of all time.

Has anyone else seen the new documentary Beyond the Lighted stage? I bought it when it came out a few months ago.. it was so good, seriously- to anyone who enjoys Rush, you should watch it. one of the best done musical documentaries I've ever seen

Necromancer 12-13-2010 08:18 PM

Caress Of Steel, is the album the band, Geddy & Alex's musical style connected with the lyrics of Neal Peart. 2112, was a even better album, but my album of preference is Caress Of Steel.

DoctorSoft 12-13-2010 11:04 PM

I've tried to get into this band but other than a few songs, I can't really say I enjoy their music.

jastrub 12-19-2010 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitting_Singularity (Post 969313)
had to give it to 2112, though Xanadu and Cygnus X-I are also some of my favorite songs of all time.

Has anyone else seen the new documentary Beyond the Lighted stage? I bought it when it came out a few months ago.. it was so good, seriously- to anyone who enjoys Rush, you should watch it. one of the best done musical documentaries I've ever seen

I saw it and I agree with you. It was very reverent but had a fun feel to it as well. So comprehensive in its explanation of their history, I would definitely suggest this film to any rush fans. Even a non-Rush fan would still enjoy it!

Mrd00d 12-20-2010 12:52 AM

I would have voted "La Villa Strangiato", or Cygnus 1, but Lamneth needs love too.

I highly recommend anyone that likes Tool's Lateralus to check out Rush's Test For Echo, particularly the title track Test For Echo. This is how I got into Rush. This whole album is brilliant. But Test For Echo was so good, Tool took influence/notice. Lateralus was always (one of) my favorite(s), and this is just
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freddie 12-21-2010 08:02 AM

Definitely, Xanadu from A Farewell to Kings.

crash_override 12-21-2010 09:14 AM

2112 would be the obvious choice. I mean it IS a classic. But The Necromancer is the most well put together epic in Rush's discography. I voted Necromancer, hands down.

Hitting_Singularity 12-26-2010 10:18 PM

I think I just realized why I picked 2112. It is the best example of epic rock singing in the Rush discography and IMO much of classic rock (not even going to compare to modern rock which has far fewer examples of amazing singers (IMO again)). Other epics may be better put together, but the story behind 2112 has me listening closely to the lyrics every time, and the way Geddy uses his voice to convey different characters and feelings just makes the story come to life.

debaserr 12-27-2010 01:00 AM

you listen to prog epics for their lyrical content?

crash_override 12-28-2010 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by eric generic (Post 975458)
you listen to prog epics for their lyrical content?

You watch movies for the acting?

Hitting_Singularity 12-29-2010 08:57 AM

Quote:

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you listen to prog epics for their lyrical content?
You watch movies for the acting?
ya...

I actually don't listen to most music for the lyrics, I'm much more concerned with the construction and enjoyability of the music, but come on.. lyrics are one of the most important part of Epics.. not that the music in them is less important, more so in fact, but an epic has to be truly epic in all ways to be a true... ya know

edit: actually Rush is one of the few bands that I truly respect for their lyrics.. the only one that comes to mind in fact(besides a few Yes songs and one-offs as well). I was recently listening to Permanent waves and each song has such a magnificent theme, and poetic lyrics, and talks about something interesting that actually matters.. anyways, it's something so rare to find in music, at least for me, that it's one of the many reasons Rush is my favorite band.

debaserr 12-29-2010 10:03 AM

it wouldn't bother me one bit if every prog epic I've ever heard was an instrumental.


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