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Stone Birds 05-21-2009 11:38 AM

Grow Your Ghost
 
Rest now
Its safe now
Let the ghosts sing

His holy name
Your unholy fame
But its alright, its alright
It’s okay

Inspiration isn’t scheduled
Isn’t planned it just comes
Like the ghosts
So respectful

Grow your Ghost
Lift your spirit
Feel better, Feel Better
Find an angel
Listen, listen for whispers
Feel better, Feel Better

Rest now
Its safe now
Let the ghosts sing

A cross so simple
A loss so bad
But, its alright, its alright
Feel better, Feel Better
It’s okay

Grow your Ghost
Heal your soul
Feel better, Feel Better
Sing, sing to god
Pray, pray for the ghosts
Feel better, Feel Better

Rest now
Its safe now
To make you understand this song more i tried to find some songs it has similar sound to:
Thrice - Lost Continent
Keane - A Bad Dream
Bon Iver - Blood Bank
Umm... i'll think of some more

Nicktarist 05-22-2009 10:39 PM

Eh, the metaphor is still what's bothering me. It's rather wobbly in terms of meaning. I just kinda hear this 'feel good- God's Holy Ghost is here' type of thing that I hear from all the rich people at my church who are always 'slain in the spirit'.

This is not to be harsh, but you should recognize that the topic you are singing on has to contain insight-not restate or redo what everyone else has done (whether it was a song or not).

Your stuff has been great, in general, but you really need to sit down and think about what your saying in this song here before you consider it even nearly finished.

Stone Birds 05-23-2009 02:33 PM

I'm not a christian so that's Not really it. if it was the title would be something more worshipy. its called "Grow Your Ghost" i thought that was straight forward enough

Nicktarist 05-23-2009 08:34 PM

than don't force it. :) If you don't feel compelled to write the song than don't. Songwriting is about saying what you have or need to say--not what people want you to say.

Stone Birds 05-24-2009 08:02 AM

i never said i was doing what people wanted me to.

Nicktarist 05-24-2009 11:42 AM

so? what's your motivation?

Stone Birds 05-24-2009 09:26 PM

Healing growing (spiritually) that's as simple as i can make it but i could probably go into more detail
i'm agnostic i'm not sure if that helps

Nicktarist 05-24-2009 10:32 PM

Quote:

Healing growing (spiritually) that's as simple as i can make it but i could probably go into more detail
That's good enough for me. Time to get back to your writing though now. ;)

btw, wanna see something insane? It may inspire you
http://bitsandpieces.us/wp-content/u...guitarzand.jpg
It's not a photoshop :D

peace,
-nick

Stone Birds 05-25-2009 09:25 AM

Ha, that's amazing, but the sound it gives off has to be crappy

Nicktarist 05-25-2009 09:38 AM

ya, probably--it's a sculpture by a japanese artist who likes taking mass produced goods and 'extremefying' them in some form or another. I'm pretty sure he's also responsible for the largest pair of underwear in the world book of records (guiness)

Stone Birds 05-25-2009 10:42 AM

You should write a song about this (don't have to be straight-forward)
I'm going to your journal

Nicktarist 05-25-2009 01:06 PM

Quote:

You should write a song about this (don't have to be straight-forward)
Yeah, I could couldn't I? I'll see what I can come up with. ;)

peace,
-nick

Stone Birds 05-25-2009 06:12 PM

Not to be annoying but you don't need to put your name at the end of every post (its already to the left of the post

Nicktarist 05-26-2009 08:14 AM

It's a formality I picked up on another forum. I won't litter your thread with my name though. :)

coryallen2 05-26-2009 08:48 AM

Ahhh Give him a break Stone. Nice songs BTW.

Stone Birds 05-26-2009 09:17 AM

Thanks, nick i don't really care if you do that or not i just wanted to see your reaction (about the same as they always are, very calm)

Stone Birds 05-26-2009 06:45 PM

Wherever I Go
 
I could walk in the valley
I could walk in the snow
I could go anywhere, anywhere
Just come with me
Wherever I go, wherever I go

The Bottom of the forest
The Top of the mountain
I need some help adding to this song

Stone Birds 05-26-2009 06:49 PM

Open Lullaby
 
Lie down and rest
Your little head
And I’ll sing you
An Open Lullaby

The trees are __________________(Color ex: Blue)
and their leaves are___________________(Different Color ex: Red)
The ______________________(Plural Noun ex: Puppies)
Are flying
So high in the sky
Do you like __________________(Season except Autumn ex: Winter)
Cause I love autumn
Hold __________________(Idea Noun ex: Love)
To your heart
And don’t let it go

When I dream, dream, dream,
When I run, run, run
When I fly, Fly, Fly
I feel free

_______________(Adjective ex: Winter) Winds
come forth to carry_________(your, my, or the)
_________________________(Noun, or Noun w/ Adjective ex: Gentle Serenity)
Across the universe (2nd time only)
My first mad libs song.

Stone Birds 05-26-2009 06:51 PM

Lunartown
 
Does the sun burn you
Does it make you singe
Does the sun hate you
Does it make you flinch

Does the moon heal you
Does it make you better
Does the moon love you
Does it make you smile

Welcome, welcome to lunartown
Where everybody smiles
Welcome, welcome to lunartown
Where everybody walks away from the sun
And runs towards the moon
Catching the winds in their hands
Welcome, welcome to lunartown (x2)

The streets are crossed
In a bright blue veil
In the night
Another wolf, another wolf howls
To the moon

Welcome, welcome to lunartown (x4)

Do you like it’s
Gentle light
Against your face

Come with me (x2) to lunartown

Welcome, welcome to lunartown (x2)
Where everybody smiles
Welcome, welcome to lunartown
Where the spirits walk
Welcome, welcome to lunartown (x3)

Nicktarist 05-27-2009 09:06 PM

With 'wherever I go', your essentially looking for rather hyberbolic statements right? Like:
Quote:

As far as the ocean blue
etc. etc. I'm just gonna start from the bottom and work my way up here if you don't mind. :o
Quote:

I could walk in the valley
I could walk in the snow
I could go anywhere, anywhere
Just come with me
Wherever I go, wherever I go

The Bottom of the forest
The Top of the mountain
My issues start with the second verse here. First, forests aren't know for being low. They are known for trapping unwary visitors in their vice-like darkness. So, that line could easily be changed to--

Quote:

From the dark of the forest...
Since we've changed the first line here to a call, we have to write the response--and so to keep your response consistant, we have to use something open. Like a plain (pasture, meadowland, lowlands etc. etc.)

We'll just say

Quote:

...To the open Pastures
So we've finished that line. Now lets take your mountain idea and expand that

Quote:

From the Highest Summit...
Now our response obviously has to be a vally or a canyon. I'm going to choose a canyon here (it's more interesting in my opinion)

Quote:

...To the ringing abyss
So we've finished that second line, you could probably add one more verse using that technique and use your first verse as your chorus. That would make for one nice little song :)

someonecompletelyrandom 05-27-2009 11:04 PM

hey Stone Birds, just browsing some of your stuff and I thought I'd say Keep up the good work! :)

Stone Birds 05-30-2009 09:31 AM

Thieves With Good Intentions
 
Something to steal
something to write our names on
something to makes us
feel free
could we be

Thieves with good intentions
Sinners that save lives
Someone you wanna see on the street
could we be

You didn't steal my heart
sometimes i wish you did
could you call my name
save me
could you be

a thief with good intentions
a sinner that saves lives
someone i wanna see on the street
could you be

I should've said something
but i was lost for words
_____________________
_______
could I be


a thief with good intentions
a sinner that saves lives
someone you wanna see on the street
could I be

Nicktarist 05-30-2009 10:16 AM

find a word that rhymes with intentions and change the song to simply 'Good Intentions'. It just sounds better to me for some reason. You need help filling in those blank spots?

Stone Birds 05-30-2009 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicktarist (Post 668986)
You need help filling in those blank spots?

yep, i do

Stone Birds 06-01-2009 10:43 AM

Live @ Lighthouse
 

The lyrics will be posted in a few minutes

Stone Birds 06-03-2009 11:59 AM

Towerman
 
Holy Man
Panic Fire
alligators
white flags

Holy Man
Panic Fire
alligators
white flags

open the door let them in
open the door let them in

Hold this note
the war is gone

Holy Man
Panic Fire
alligators
white flags

open the door let them in
open the door let them in

Hold this note
the war is gone
Hold this note
the war is gone
this is a terrible song but i decided to post since i did write it

Stone Birds 06-03-2009 12:05 PM

The Kite *Link to Demo Icluded!!!*
 
Download "The Kite" Demo
Two Red Balloons
Up in the sky
one yellow kite
about to fall
to the sea

Two Red Balloons
Up in the sky
one yellow kite
about to fall
to the sea
unfortunately the recording wasn't all that great because the guitar sounds like it has distortion.

Stone Birds 06-03-2009 12:17 PM

How To Catch the Sparrow *Download Link included*
 
Download "How To Catch the Sparrow" Demo
We were all one young
runnin out into the rain when we weren't supposed to
climbin trees and scrapin knees
it was the only way to teach us pain

Mother Sky
father sea
please help me

The rain will die but tomorrow
we'll learn how to catch the sparrow

Brother flame
sister tree
please save me

I can't write this song the way
it was meant to be
i am sorry
could you forgive me

Grandpa gun
grandma flower
please find me*

we live and die, but we lie (x4)
*this line has been updated since the demo was recorded

tab:

e---------------
B---------------
G----------0----
D----0----------
A-------3-------
E-3-------------

Stone Birds 06-03-2009 12:28 PM

Dragonflies (Dedicated to Jake Ita)
 
I wish you could stay awhile
I wish you could stay

Than, maybe I'd know you
Maybe you could tell me yourself

Do you know right from wrong
what is your favorite song
cause maybe we could sing-along

but we know that the dragonflies
always leave when someone dies

Whose fault?
Does it matter?
you're up in the sky
you must've been a good man
because so many people down here
love you, love you

Do you know right from wrong
what is your favorite song
cause maybe we could sing-along

but we know that the dragonflies
always leave when someone dies

Stone Birds 06-05-2009 02:49 PM

If I Fell Into Black Water
 
If i fell into black water
would you save me
if you ran away
from home
i'd run away with you
and we'd be the best of friends

and then the cops'll come
lookin for us
and we'd hide
under the bed in
that cheap motel

if this was the last time
i saw you
than i'd kiss you goodbye
but we believe
that we're invincible
nothing can hurt us
nothing can hurt you

we stole a blue car
and drove outa this shity state
somethin you'd say
"I Love this air i'm breathin"

If i fell into black water
would you save me
if you ran away
from home
i'd run away with you

if this was the last time
i saw you
than i'd kiss you goodbye
but we believe
that we're invincible
nothing can hurt us
nothing can hurt you
i even got the guitar finished.

Stone Birds 06-12-2009 02:26 PM

I'm bumping this.
this next song i wrote very randomly for you all


You and me are
so perfectly aligned
with everything
cause we sing
in harmony


that's just one verse but i'm hoping to build it more (genre: Alt. Pop)

Stone Birds 06-19-2009 11:26 AM

Ruhe
 
There's a moon in the sky
and i feel alive

cause i survived
i survived

Comets come crashin
smashin evry'thing around me.

i am a soldier
in a war
i am a child
slammed to the floor
i am a hero
but not to the core

could we fight
a battle in the sky
or in another sky
made up of broken stars

i am a soldier
in a war
i am a child
slammed to the floor
i am a hero
but not to the core

The sun slowly flys away
leaving us in the dark
you found me
choking on jupiter's dust

a metaphorical object
a rhetorical question
from your friend

i am a soldier
in a war
i am a child
slammed to the floor
i am a hero
but not to the core

atlest not anymore

VEGANGELICA 06-19-2009 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stone Birds (Post 653530)
There’s a river by my bed
There’s a sun over my head

The shining light
Used to be
Something to make me happy

But now, I’m walking on this road,
Though many have walked it before
I’m not sure if I’m gonna make it
I don’t know if I’m gonna make it

Sleep with petals in the cradle
And watch the sun go down

The grey road is long and heartless
The grey road I have to walk on

I know
That you know
Than we don’t know
I know
That you know
Than we don’t know

Sleep with petals in the cradle
And watch the sun go down

Sleep with petals in the cradle
And watch the sun
And watch the sun
And watch the sun
go down

Everyone who walked this road
Before me
Found a splotch of color
And a light that was pretty, so pretty

Sleep with petals in the cradle
And watch the sun go down

Main Chord = 35**xx
(* is randomly included)

Hi, Stone Birds,
I like the strong visual images of nature that you include in this song, which I interpret as describing the road of life we all take and the difficulties/sadness faced while traveling it. For example, you start with a startling yet appealing image: "There's a river by my bed." This beautiful impossibility...unless you happen to be in a tent outside! :) ...catches my attention right at the beginning of the song. Then, you explain that you have lost this joy and appreciation you once had in living. The loss of this joy seems much more real since you first describe what the joy feels like (using the river/sun). If you had simply described the loss of joy first (without describing the beauty of what was lost), then the loss would seem less painful.

I also am touched by the image you create when you write, "Sleep with petals in the cradle." I feel this line succinctly shows the tenderness we have toward our children, or the children we once were, and, when combined with the following line, "And watch the sun go down," describes how quickly life passes (in my interpretation). Life is so fleeting that it can be summarized in two short lines:

Quote:

Sleep with petals in the cradle
And watch the sun go down
The fact that the passage of life is described in two lines physically represents life's speed (again, this is just how I am interpreting the lyrics). And, once again, both lines include a reference to nature (a repeated theme in the poem).

When you write that everyone has walked the road before you, finding a splotch of color, or aspects of life that are profoundly beautiful and meaningful, those lines acknowledge the human condition: many others have enjoyed life, finding beauty in it as much as you do or can now. This section of the song, as I see it, widens the focus of the poem outward away from the speaker toward other people, emphasizing the connection you have to them, and probably sympathy for them, because they also lived...and then died, too, as we must all.

I like the shift of focus away from self (not that self isn't important) to others (in addition to self), because I think feeling that connection to other people often helps people heal from hurts inflicted by life. For example, I find it comforting to know others have walked life's road as we do now. Since I know your songs, from what you have said, often revolve around healing, I felt that this portion of this particular song was important because I see it as part of the healing effort: by acknowledging the loss (of life or of joy) this is a way to accept/heal and continue on that hard, grey road.

The song also makes me sorry/sad that life (for the speaker of the poem...and I am assuming you are also the speaker of the poem, describing self-experiences rather than experiences of someone else) sometimes feels like a heartless and long, grey, road.

One segment of the song that is not clear to me is the following:
Quote:

I know
That you know
Than we don’t know
I know
That you know
Than we don’t know
I am wondering if the word "than" was intended to be "then," since "than" would be used in a comparison? Or is the "than" supposed to be "that," as in "I know that you know that we don't know?" Or, am I simply not understanding the meaning? I also am curious what it is that is not known.

To summarize, the many visual images you use carry me through the song from beginning to end, with the repetition of "petals in the cradle" creating a somber feeling of loss, of the ephemeral, that I feel suits the topic (as I understand it) very well. The repetition of the two lines, "Sleep with petals in the cradle and watch the sun go down" throughout the poem could be interpreted as showing that person after person after person has experienced this brief life and then death. The repetition of these two lines makes me feel as if the song encompasses the lives of many individual people within it.
--Erica

Stone Birds 06-20-2009 09:38 AM

typo, i'm i'm fixing it.

Stone Birds 07-05-2009 01:47 AM

Room 214 / Seven Pennies
 
"Room 214"

Here i am again
alone
in room two-fourteen
just waiting
so long, now, so long, forever

A simple bed
to lay may troubles down
a coffee maker
to awake me every morning.

Walk outside into the light
embrace every stranger
love every neighbor
so long, now, so long, forever

a big night, tonight
some sort of party
the music explodes...

Here i am again
alone
in room two-fourteen
just waiting
so long, now, so long, forever


if you're wondering how this is supposed to flow or make sense or whatever. think of bon iver because that's the kinda song this is.
________________________________________

"Seven Pennies"


this is currently just a chorus but it bases the song.

I got seven pennies in my pocket
And I’m having good life

Astronomer 07-05-2009 07:11 PM

^ I really like 'Room 214' and can definitely picture it with some music with a simple sadness, Bon Iver style.

VEGANGELICA 07-06-2009 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stone Birds (Post 672046)
Download "How To Catch the Sparrow" Demo
We were all one young
runnin out into the rain when we weren't supposed to
climbin trees and scrapin knees
it was the only way to teach us pain

Mother Sky
father sea
please help me

The rain will die but tomorrow
we'll learn how to catch the sparrow

Brother flame
sister tree
please save me

I can't write this song the way
it was meant to be
i am sorry
could you forgive me

Grandpa gun
grandma flower
please find me*

we live and die, but we lie (x4)
*this line has been updated since the demo was recorded

tab:

e---------------
B---------------
G----------0----
D----0----------
A-------3-------
E-3-------------

Hi, Stone Birds,
I like the way you use the theme of family in these lyrics (mother, father, brother, sister, grandpa, grandma) to tie the song together from beginning to end. The "Grandpa gun" is chilling and more so because it is combined with the mentioning of family members, childhood experiences, and nature (sky, sea, flowers, etc.), all of which are so much a part of life. Also, the plea for help that runs throughout the lyrics and the feeling of the need for forgiveness combine to make the song sound like the description of someone wrestling with strong feelings that are welling up into thoughts of suicide ("Grandpa gun, please find me"). Am I interpreting the lyrics as you intended?
--Erica

Stone Birds 07-07-2009 02:39 AM

mostly. i'm usually not completely sure myself until someone points it out to me.

Stone Birds 07-09-2009 03:37 PM

A Nice pop/dance remix i made. i amplified the strings and beat, and put weird delays on choruses on the synth, and whole lotta other things, hope someone likes it:
"Shine 4U" (Stone Birds Remix)

if anyone wants a download of this i'll be posting the download on many different sites (including this one) on July 22nd

Stone Birds 07-11-2009 12:01 PM

If I Fell Into Black Water EP
 
Download 25MB

Artist/Band: Stone Birds
Album title: If I Fell Into Black Water EP
Genre: Folk / Neofolk / Lofi


Tracks:
1. If I Fell Into Black Water 6:32 (new version)
2. M.O.N.D.A.Y. (Instrumental) 3:19
3. Sour Candy 2:34
4. Ruhe 4:36



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