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Antonio 07-11-2009 12:10 PM

cool, i'll give it a listen

Stone Birds 07-11-2009 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stone Birds (Post 702029)
Download 25MB

Artist/Band: Stone Birds
Album title: If I Fell Into Black Water EP
Genre: Folk / Neofolk / Lofi


Tracks:
1. If I Fell Into Black Water 6:32 (new version)
2. M.O.N.D.A.Y. (Instrumental) 3:19
3. Sour Candy 2:34
4. Ruhe 4:36



EP Artwork:

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thanks, i'm not sure if its your kind of music though.

P.s. i quoted because i wanted it on this page.

Antonio 07-11-2009 12:18 PM

eh, i'll give it a shot

Antonio 07-11-2009 01:00 PM

well, i just listened to it, and i really like the tone of your guitar, really crisp. you have a pretty deep voice for a kid your age too, hehe.

it seems though, that you need to work on your timing a bit on the first song. it really sounded like you were off time a bit, especially when singing. idk, unless you intended for that, it seems like you could do benefit with practicing singing and playing at the same time

Stone Birds 07-11-2009 01:05 PM

are you Kweejibo on last.fm?
if so you loved all my songs except for the instrumental.
also folk music does that a lot with timing.

Antonio 07-11-2009 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stone Birds (Post 702083)
are you Kweejibo on last.fm?
if so you loved all my songs except for the instrumental.
also folk music does that a lot with timing.

yes i am, haha. i usually "love" tracks that i can definately see myslef listening to again

i like the instrumental too, but it was moreso an ambience type of thing than something i'd rush too listen to. still good though.


oh and, so it was intentional then? cause i mean other than that, the song sounds good

Nicktarist 07-11-2009 03:29 PM

Trouble downloading. Could you possibly use another site like Mediafire or Savefile? You don't have to register to savefile to use it.

VEGANGELICA 07-13-2009 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stone Birds;702029
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Tracks:[/B]
1. If I Fell Into Black Water 6:32 (new version)
2. M.O.N.D.A.Y. (Instrumental) 3:19
3. Sour Candy 2:34
4. Ruhe 4:36

Hi, Stone Birds, I downloaded and listened to your 4 tracks. They all have a very somber quality, I feel, similar to the songs you have posted on your MySpace page.

I particularly listened to Ruhe because your lyrics are posted earlier. One question I have is what sort of microphone setup you have, because it sounded (to me) as if this song had some background noise that was quite loud. Like Antonio said, you do have a very low voice, which makes it unique! Sometimes in Ruhe it was hard for me to tell, though, what note you were singing, and I didn't know if this was intentional or not.
--Erica

Stone Birds 07-14-2009 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA (Post 703232)
Hi, Stone Birds, I downloaded and listened to your 4 tracks. They all have a very somber quality, I feel, similar to the songs you have posted on your MySpace page.

I particularly listened to Ruhe because your lyrics are posted earlier. One question I have is what sort of microphone setup you have, because it sounded (to me) as if this song had some background noise that was quite loud. Like Antonio said, you do have a very low voice, which makes it unique! Sometimes in Ruhe it was hard for me to tell, though, what note you were singing, and I didn't know if this was intentional or not.
--Erica

the noise was intentional i recorded it while it was raining outside (Ruhe Only). i used a basic computer mic for the recording of all tracks except #2 (which was recorded line-in and MIDI).

Also:
#1
voice and guitar (recorded together)
Stereo chorus layering

#2
Distorted Synth Pad
Bass Tones
Hammered Guitar
Wind noises (early in song)
Random Effects
No special stereo layering

#3
Drum Program
Vocals (kinda crappy)
Guitar (D & G Strings)
Guitar (B & e Strings)
Toy Electric Piano (lofi)
Piano (R) and B & e Strings (L), rest are basically centered

#4
Rain noise, Guitar, Voice (All recorded together)
Stereo chorus layering

VEGANGELICA 07-14-2009 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stone Birds (Post 703417)
the noise was intentional i recorded it while it was raining outside (Ruhe Only). i used a basic computer mic for the recording of all tracks except #2 (which was recorded line-in and MIDI).

Ah...rain! I'll have to listen again more carefully and figure out why it didn't sound like rain to me. Now that I know it is rain, I probably will recognize it! Thanks for the info on your recording methods.
--Erica

Stone Birds 07-14-2009 03:41 PM

well, i'm recording inside, so the rain sound is muffled by my house

Nicktarist 07-20-2009 01:45 PM

I'll settle for your myspace, didn't see that earlier. :o Sounds a bit like 'The National' only not quite as polished. Still pretty impressive that a teenager could make somethin' with a bit o' class n' taste either way. ;) Keep makin' music.

peace,
-nick

Stone Birds 08-02-2009 06:44 PM

Pretty Lights
 
Pretty Lights
Pass me by
Every time
I sigh

Show the way
For this new day
And we’ll survive
In pretty lights

Broken rag doll
Beautiful kid
The mother died
In pretty lights

Grand forest blues
Older than you
Took them down
Destroyed our town
In pretty lights

My best friend
Lost his way
Went down the road
Into darkness
Broken by
Those Pretty lights


I'll Try to upload a demo of this sometime this week

Nicktarist 08-08-2009 01:16 PM

Actually, quite a nice idea here--you manage to say only what you need to say with a few words. My biggest issue is with the overuse of the words "Pretty Lights"--If you really desire to have that in there, you could change the adjective to something a little bit darker each time.

i.e. (and don't use this example, it's a bad one)
'enticing lights' (could even say 'ticing lights--still makes sense when said)
'waning lights'
'(could repeat pretty lights one more time)
'darkened heights' (normally, heights being interchangeable with cliffs or chasms)

Take my advice at your own will,
-nick

Naked 08-09-2009 01:56 PM

I agree with Nick here, "pretty lights" loses it's effect... I understand the idea for repetition, but I feel it needs to be more subtle here... Try making the adjective in place of "Pretty" match the feel of the verse... For example, keep "pretty" for the first, but maybe for the verse "Show me the way/through the day/ and we'll survive/ in pretty* lights
*Instead try Guiding, or Wayward, etc.

Stone Birds 08-14-2009 03:32 PM

Some Remixes For Ya (no.1)
 
The Postal Service - Such Great Heights (Stone Birds Remix) DOWNLOAD
This Song's Last.FM Page

Apple Eyes - Wild Beasts (Stone Birds Remix) DOWNLOAD
This Song's Last.FM Page

Hope you enjoy them.

VEGANGELICA 08-14-2009 06:23 PM

Remixes
 
Hi Stone Birds,

I listened to both of your remixes and then the originals, which I'd never heard before, so I could compare them.

I recommend you make the vocals louder for both remixes, if that is possible. It was harder for me to hear and understand the words on the remixes than on the originals, so that I couldn't get the meaning as well from the remixes.

In your Wild Beasts remix you played around with shifting the sound somehow for a measure every once in a while, making the song sound thinner, like listening to a tape recording. This sudden, short shift in sound quality made me start to think more about the shift in sound quality than in the music, so my preference would be to have a longer shift in sound quality rather than sudden short ones.

Thanks for sharing the remixes! It is interesting to hear different versions of the songs.
--Erica

Stone Birds 08-19-2009 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA (Post 719824)
Hi Stone Birds,

I listened to both of your remixes and then the originals, which I'd never heard before, so I could compare them.

I recommend you make the vocals louder for both remixes, if that is possible. It was harder for me to hear and understand the words on the remixes than on the originals, so that I couldn't get the meaning as well from the remixes.

In your Wild Beasts remix you played around with shifting the sound somehow for a measure every once in a while, making the song sound thinner, like listening to a tape recording. This sudden, short shift in sound quality made me start to think more about the shift in sound quality than in the music, so my preference would be to have a longer shift in sound quality rather than sudden short ones.

Thanks for sharing the remixes! It is interesting to hear different versions of the songs.
--Erica

Here's a few i have planned for the next one
The Sounds - Beatbox
Rivers Cuomo - My Brain Is Working Overtime
:beer:

if you guys have any songs you think i should remix then by all means tell me :)

Stone Birds 09-03-2009 06:00 PM

The Sounds - Beatbox (Stone Birds Remix) VOTE FOR ME!!!

Astronomer 09-03-2009 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stone Birds (Post 729260)

That was really cool! Enjoying your recordings muchly.

Stone Birds 09-03-2009 06:11 PM

did you click the "Vote For Me" Button on the website?
:)

Astronomer 09-03-2009 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stone Birds (Post 729274)
did you click the "Vote For Me" Button on the website?
:)

Sure did! :)

Stone Birds 10-07-2009 11:05 PM

Battlefield
 
I currently have just a chorus but it's coming along
on the battlefield
we're just waitin for blood
cause we're just dogs
cause we're just dogs
Ideas, tips, comments, love, hate?

VEGANGELICA 10-08-2009 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stone Birds (Post 748826)
I currently have just a chorus but it's coming along
on the battlefield
we're just waitin for blood
cause we're just dogs
cause we're just dogs
Ideas, tips, comments, love, hate?

Hi Stone Birds! It's been a while since I've "seen" you here!

One comment: when I imagine a battlefield, I don't imagine anyone waiting. On the *way* to the battlefield, people may be waiting for or eager for blood. Once on the battlefield, I imagine people actively hungering for blood and slaughtering others to make their blood flow. "Waiting" sounds very passive.

Second comment: Humans are actually quite a bit like packs of dogs, only scarier. I would say humans are worse than dogs.

Nicktarist 10-08-2009 02:13 PM

Quote:

Second comment: Humans are actually quite a bit like packs of dogs, only scarier. I would say humans are worse than dogs.
And wild hogs are worse than both, other than that I agree with your post.

peace,
-nick

Stone Birds 12-08-2009 03:35 PM

have any of you heard of filter magazine? probably
well they're having this clip contest (in voting period)
and i submitted, so check them out and maybe (PLEASE!!!) vote for me...

Flurry - Jake Hansen's Filter Magazine Clips Challenge Submission - Indaba Music R&B song without losing my style

Silver Tears - Jake Hansen's Filter Magazine Clips Challenge Submission - Indaba Music House song, so unique to what i usually do, i made an entirely new project Shades of Maroon

Cloud - Jake Hansen's Filter Magazine Clips Challenge Submission - Indaba Music after making it it reminded me of volcano choir, except not as good

Patricia - Jake Hansen's Filter Magazine Clips Challenge Submission - Indaba Music Emo house song, under Shades of Maroon name

the links are not the same

Stone Birds 12-22-2009 10:47 PM

i'm releasing a new full-length (self-titled) album
it will be on itunes next week
more info tomorrow.

Stone Birds 07-07-2010 10:00 AM

holy crap it's been forever since i've used this thread i literally have over 50 songlyrics that've never been posted here

Stone Birds 07-16-2010 07:58 PM

"Saviour"
 
take it all away from me
i can't stand the sight of this
the movements are so out of mind
and i'm just too aligned

oh my dear
i'm lost in the woods
oh my love
i've got no signal

i've got no compass to point me home
but i hear you from around the bend

oh my dear
i'm lost in the woods
oh my love
i've got no signal

(oh thank go, oh thank god you found me)
may i lay in your arms
i almost gave up
i'm so glad you found me

you are no god but you're my saviour


Diver-City 07-21-2010 01:48 PM

I really like it as a piece of poetry, but I think it is a little too much "pure poetry" for a song. Poetry lets your mind fill in the empty blanks, but song writing needs a little more information in between to help it flow. For example (We cross our hands, a shadowy figure) I think there is too big of a gap in between the subject matter. A way to make it flow better could go something like this.....As we crossed hands we gazed upon cascading shadows lit by the amber sun. Thats just off the top of my head but I'm not trying to criticize, just trying to open your mind a little bit.

Diver-City 07-21-2010 01:50 PM

oops wrong place haha sorry, ill fix that

Stone Birds 07-21-2010 02:44 PM

A Breeze On the Sea
 
We will run to the sea
and we'll swim you and me

shore is clean sky i blue
perfect weather for me and you

so my love where's the boat
shall we sail for 10 days

there's a breeze on the sea
and i'm feeling free

there's a breeze on the sea
and i'm feeling free

We will run to the sea
and we'll swim you and me

Listen to it here: Stone Birds – A Breeze On the Sea – Listening & stats at Last.fm

Stone Birds 07-21-2010 02:53 PM

Origami Tea Leaves
 
in the corner there was an old broom
whose bristles were bein sucked up by the vacuum
you'll be sent into tonight's storm
please don't cry cause you cannot fight

there's no time for these things
cause god says i don't care for these things

origami tea leaves in a little old box
from a gray haired lady who's probably dead now
you'll be used till you're gone and forgotten
you cannot help this your end is eminent

there's no time for these things
cause god says i don't care for these things

there's no time for these things
cause god says i don't care for these things

Listen to it here:Stone Birds – Origami Tea Leaves – Listening & stats at Last.fm

Spoiler for ?:
i love music

Stone Birds 07-21-2010 03:40 PM

today i uploaded lyrics for 2 songs hopefully more will be uploaded tomorrow

Stone Birds 07-25-2010 12:50 AM

April
 
You're looking at Me
Something is happening
your face entrances me
on the spot in time
in april
i fell for you
in june i try to win ya back
in july i realize i'll never get you back



Video courtesy of NumberNineDream

VEGANGELICA 07-25-2010 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stone Birds (Post 906607)
You're looking at Me
Something is happening
your face entrances me
on the spot in time
in april
i fell for you
in june i try to win ya back
in july i realize i'll never get you back

I like the guitar and instrumentals very much, Stone Birds! A couple times I felt your voice was a little out of tune and the overdubbing made it hard to understand your voice.

I feel your lyrics would be improved by not repeating "back" in the final line, and instead finding another way to say that this person the singer fell for will never catch him. The relationship sounds very short, though this doesn't mean it wasn't important, but this made me feel that the seriousness of the song was out of proportion with what I'd expect after the break-up of a 2-month relationship.

I like NumberNine's mouth drawings!!...especially when the mouth becomes a black spot, echoing the idea of a "spot in time" that is in your lyrics!

NumberNineDream 07-25-2010 05:09 AM

Quote:

your face entrances me
on the spot in time
Wow. That's a great coincidence.
I just drew whatever the music inspired to me, because the lyrics aren't too understandable.

VEGANGELICA 07-25-2010 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NumberNineDream (Post 906645)
Wow. That's a great coincidence.
I just drew whatever the music inspired to me, because the lyrics aren't too understandable.

I suspected the black spot in your video drawings wasn't intentionally there to correspond to the word "spot" in the lyrics, since they didn't occur at the same time...but wouldn't it be cool if they did? I think so, at least!

Since the song mentions someone's face, I thought your drawings of a face...very close up...made perfect sense...and the way the face got smaller and bigger could represent how one's feelings of closeness and connection to the person change as the quality of the relationship changes.

Of course, I've been known to "over-analyze," some people say. ;) But it's such fun!!!!! :)

NumberNineDream 07-25-2010 05:43 AM

I love hidden unintentional meanings. They're always the best.
Analyse away!!

VEGANGELICA 07-25-2010 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NumberNineDream (Post 906651)
I love hidden unintentional meanings. They're always the best.
Analyse away!!

I love them, too! Though I probably love hidden *intentional* meanings more.

I have analyzed my ardor for analyzing, and my analysis is also that analyzing away is A-okay. I appreciate your approval! ;)


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