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06-06-2015, 05:39 AM | #31 (permalink) | |||||
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Then I want to see him do 'it' (whatever that means) as rain falls down on a day between Monday and Friday in temperatures ranging between -5 and 5 degrees against world class ball throwers like Ryan Shawcross in Stoke-on-Trent. Then - and only then - will he be the greatest ever. Quote:
The fact he's been doing this for the best part of a decade as well, nobody in the modern era (90s onward) has reached this level of performance and consistency. Ronaldo comes close with the numbers but that's about it. Quote:
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06-07-2015, 05:13 PM | #33 (permalink) | |
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By all accounts, Orr was elite defensively as well. Sure, he's known more for his offense, but many considered him the best defensive d-man of his time as well, and no one seems to have him at anything less than "good defensively". When you reflect on a guy like Coffey, some people just absolutely blast him for how poor he was defensively, and it's a main reason why no one has him even close to Orr despite putting up similar offensive numbers in his heyday (along with era-adjusted scoring and surrounding talent, of course). Thing with Orr is that I don't know if anyone in NHL history has been further ahead of the curve on a physical attribute as Orr was with his skating ability. Even if you just watch highlights of him, it literally looks like he's going up against a bunch of kids sometimes. It's something that let him take huge risks on the ice; he could basically always be back in place if something went wrong. |
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06-07-2015, 05:35 PM | #34 (permalink) |
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im obviously not ripping orr or anything, he probably was elite at everything. Good point about Coffey, though ya his numbers were no doubt influenced by the insane teams he was on.
think ive said it before but I think Karlsson defensive abilities are very much underrated. and Weber's defensive abilities are very much overrated. id take Karlsson over Weber in a heartbeat. and I don't know if theres a dman in the league that can impact a game like Karlsson. |
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06-26-2015, 05:08 PM | #37 (permalink) |
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I'd take Niedermayer over Orr five ways to Sunday. Same reason I find Mario Lemieux better then Gretzky. Orr and Gretzky played in times when the ice was wide open and offense ruled the day. I am not by any stretch saying they weren't sure fire hall of famers and dynamic players but its the same reason I gotta choose a guy like Hakeem Olajuwon over Wilt Chamberlain.
With regard to Messi, there is just no argument that he is the greatest player the sport has ever seen. Bergkamp couldn't carry his jock and this is coming from a huge Bergkamp fan.
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06-26-2015, 05:27 PM | #38 (permalink) | |
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What no mention of Lance Armstrong
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06-26-2015, 05:47 PM | #40 (permalink) | |
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Point taken, so instead I'll nominate Eddy Merckx the greatest cyclist that ever lived
This 6 min video from a 70's documentary is absolutely amazing and the chosen music goes perfectly with it, goes from training rides to proper races.
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