after seeing carroll mess up week in and week out for liverpool and seeing demba ba turn into a goal scoring machine for newcastle, im losing all hope with liverpool, especially since we're losing suarez for 8 games now.

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Any Arsenal fan must have teared up when Thierry Henry slotted that one home.

It's practically made my year already, and yes, I did have a lump in my throat. Henry is without doubt my absolute favourite player of all time. And, as an Arsenal fan that grew up with him as the side's talisman, seeing him score last night was just... Ah, words can't describe. Pure nostalgia. The guy is a god in my eyes.

.......and slotted another easy one against a hopeless Blackburn yesterday.

Absolutely thrilling game against Chelsea today. I know it's not done our title hopes much good, but the game was very entertaining and almost nailbiting for the last ten minutes, which is what the game is all about. I'd rather we drew but had a great game than won from a single penalty in the first twenty minutes. I feel quite pleased.

Fabio Capello quits as England manager, does this means that England's chances at 2012 are even more buggered than they were, thoughts?

Fabio Capello resigns as England manager after row with FA | Mail Online

Personally, I'm glad to see the back of him, but there's a lot to this story. On the outside, I understand many people were frustrated with the disappointing result at the world cup, and others were annoyed that for an England manager he was barely able to speak English, but my problem is really neither of those.

I find the way he as a manager conducts the teams to be very unsatisfactory: the complete imposition of his ideas about the way the team should be organised is just a bit too assertive, and I find the result not to be an orderly team but entirely demotivational - there's no drive for the players. I know having a team run wild like England under Sven Joran Ericsson was bad too, but we don't need either of these extremes.

Who do we want to see as the next gaffer? I know Harry Redknapp is the favourite, but who should really get the job?

The team will need a motivator more than anything else, because the team is very average in too many areas.

Martin O'Neill is that man. But we know his situation.

I'll go with Hoddle.

Sure Hoddle did a good public relations job before.

Harry Redknapp fits into the type of man the country wants, he's similiar to Terry Venebles in a lot of ways. The public want him, he's one of the chaps and also both were rather dodgy characters.

Personally I think he would be mad to take the job, he's never had it so good in his managerial career and has got the big team that he has always wanted, he has a side that is top 4 quality and can challenge for the league and play in Europe. If he takes the England job, he's on a hiding to nothing with a bunch of mediocre players who'll let the nation down again.

Also the FA want to offer the next England manager a lot less than Capello was getting paid and greedy Harry would take that as a slight, so his wage would be a major stumbling point. Personally, I think they should give the job back to Steve McClaren, lets face it, he know the ropes and whats involved:laughing:

Now that Redknapp has been cleared of the tax evasion malarky, I can't see any real opposition to him getting the post if he wants it. The FA were open enough to suggest that he "might" be one of the candidates, which for an organisation like that is like saying "we really want this guy". He's well respected, he's forthright and outspoken, and is a strong enough character who knows enough to the England squad to have proper control of the team before the Euros.

Whether he'll take the job. that's another question. He has always struck me as a guy with a lot of national pride - even if the pay isn't as good, he might be tempted by that side of things.

Sorry I couldn't resist: I saw this on Jason Manford's Facebook page:

Give it to Hope Powell, she's done a decent job with the women's team.

Suarez was a complete wanker before yesterday's match, now he's an even bigger one. The whole thing compounded itself even more with Kenny Dalglish at the end of the match, claiming that he knew nothing of Suarez refusing to shake Evra's hand!!! The face Dalglish put, was one of anger and disbelief. The man can hardly speak English perfectly, let alone trying to attempt to lie to the cameras on national television.

Absolutely pathetic behaviour from Suarez. With cameras pointing right at him, with thousands of people from all over the world watching, he refused, Evra even gave him a second chance, which he declined too. It's ridiculous behaviour from someone who was wrong in the first place.

I could say a lot more, but it's really not worth it.

Not sure why they have to shake hands in the first place. Suarez is clearly not a huge fan of Evra, and vice verca, why the phony sportsmanship?

... Seriously? No matter how much you dislike someone, it's a professional game, and it's in the name of sportsmanship. You Always shake their hand. Sportsmanship isn't about pretending to like someone, it's about showing the respect that is due to an opponent, it's about remembering that it is a game, and that it's all meant to be in good sport.

What Suarez did wasn't about not shaking Evra's hand because he didn't like him, it was about refusing to be mature and put his personal dislike of Evra below sportsmanship and the spirit of the game. He's an international superstar, he has a responsibility to be mature and to uphold that spirit. In my opinion, anyone so immature and petty as that should be banned from the FA.

True. The whole issue was that despite being banned he refused to let the issue go - essentially showing that he puts his grudges above the game.

And Evra was not in the same boat at all, he held his hand out first, Suarez ignored him, Evra offered it again yet Suarez continued.

I am not on Suarez's side on the matter, but I just don't see the point in shaking hands, especially with a person you clearly don't respect.

Again, I am not on his side, but Suarez must feel as though he was not in the wrong and Evra has ruined his reputation.

But that's the point, what he feels about Evra is effectively moot. It is not as important as the spirit of the game. Maybe you don't respect them as a footballer, but you should damn well respect them as an opponent. That's what the handshake is about. It's about playing fair on the field, regardless of how much or little respect you have for the other side.

Again, there's no need for it.

... So you would just throw away one of the oldest examples of chivalry and good sport left in the world?

Yes. I prefer the Hakka.

You were saying?

Nobody cares about traditions. It's bad ass.

Nobody cares about traditions eh? Ignorance at its finest. Which "nobody" is this? I'm proud of my history, I'm proud of my native language, even if only 10% of the population can speak it. I'd be willing to bet that if you asked any national player of any sport that they'd be pretty damn proud to play for their country. I bet if you asked any of the All Blacks about the Haka they'd be proud of their culture and the Pacific Island traditions that gave them such a famous expression.

The Haka is awesome because of what it means, what it represents, and because of the traditions that surround it. Can you imagine how stupid Torres would look doing a Haka?

The thought of Torres doing the Haka makes it all worthwhile.

People do care about traditions, society is built upon them and sport has its own traditions as well.

I am obviously being annoying on purpose, but I am pretty sure fans aren't concerned about the history and traditions, its surely more about intimidation in their eyes.

Much more suitable than shaking hands.

Apparently Suarez has now apologized for not shaking Evra's hand and Dalglish has apologized for supposedly playing dumb in the post match interview.

IMO the fact of the matter is, that Suarez should actually me made to shake Evra's hand again, as anybody can make a half hearted apology to a radio station or newspaper after the event.

This is true - it's a different thing altogether apologising and having the guts to drop your grudge and shake hands.

And now the bin dippers are gozzing on people
Quote:
MANCHESTER UNITED'S tunnel bust-up with Liverpool on Saturday was sparked by a spitting storm.
United keeper David De Gea was spat at as he walked to the Old Trafford dressing room at half-time.

Players from both sides had to be parted by stewards as the explosive confrontation threatened to escalate into a full-on brawl.

Police became involved in an effort to calm tensions and keep the feuding sides apart following an explosive first 45 minutes, which saw Luis Suarez refuse to shake the hand of Patrice Evra before kick-off.

It is unclear who was responsible for the spitting but a source said: "De Gea was making his way to the tunnel and was clearly shocked to be spat at.

"Obviously the players reacted angrily and both teams became involved, before stewards managed to quieten it down."

Tempers were frayed again at the end of United's 2-1 victory when Liverpool substitute Craig Bellamy got involved in a confrontation with the Old Trafford head of security as players left the pitch.

Racist , spitting filth.
Skausers=always offended never embarrassed.
Its never your fault ...

Mick McCarthy sacked by Wolves, now he could be a candidate for the England job.

Just think of it, out of Wolves and into England:finger:

England getting Ireland's sloppy seconds. That would make my day :D

Hahaha but England are desperate, they'll probably take anybody if he's cheap enough.

That was a cracking rant! Agree completely.
We now have the Fergie-haters moving in for the kill with stuff like this:

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...02336391_n.jpg

How anyone can think that's funny or even that there's a point in there is pretty pathetic.

Arsenal were embarrassing tonight, completely toothless. The best thing that could happen to us this season is if we get knocked out of the Champions League, miss out on 4th and fail to win the FA Cup, maybe then will the problems that have been continuously ignored or papered over in recent years finally be confronted head on.

:thumbup:

Best day of the season so far for me. Legendary win.