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Trout Mask Replica (1969) 29 44.62%
The Velvet Underground & Nico (1967) 36 55.38%
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Old 05-16-2017, 02:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Depends, how do you feel about Doc at the Radar Station or Safe As Milk?
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Old 05-17-2017, 09:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Depends, how do you feel about Doc at the Radar Station or Safe As Milk?
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Old 05-18-2017, 08:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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If you try Frownland's suggestion, you'll discover that Safe As Milk is a really easy listen, compared to Trout Mask. A couple of tracks are a little weak and dated, but there are plenty of good ones, so keep going until the fabulous closer, Electricity.
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I think you mean Autumn'a Child, but Electricity is the best song on the album after Abba a Zabba. I recommend listening to the reissue though, Tristan. It has a lot of cool bonus tracks from Mirror Man and Strictly Personal that are all great.
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Old 05-19-2017, 04:43 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Oops! Didn't realize how many years it's been since I played Safe As Milk - I've completely forgotten the running order of the tracks, but yes, Abba Zabba is another stand-out track for sure. I haven't heard those cd bonus tracks, so I might see if they're on YouTube.
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Dali's Car was the first TMR track that Beefheart composed - at the piano, with John French as the long-suffering assistant trying to annotate and transcribe for the band what Beefheart was playing. The track was supposedly inspired by Stravinsky, so here's a Stravinsky piece, transcribed for piano.
We can compare: Dali's Car (which went from piano to guitar) and Symphonies of Wind Instruments (which has gone from woodwind to piano).

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You heard what I said.

Maybe preface it with some general Delta blues obsession/education.
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:37 PM   #7 (permalink)
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still playin this on a semi regular basis

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Old 05-19-2017, 08:57 PM   #8 (permalink)
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That's a goodie.

Not counting his notation of the madness, I think that Suger 'n' Spikes has Drumbo's greatest moment at 1:54 (it's also one of the things that made me return to the record when I first heard it).

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Old 05-21-2017, 07:17 AM   #9 (permalink)
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That's a complicated bit of drumming, but it didn't strike me especially when I first started listening to TMR. First drumming that I particularly noticed was on the end section of Pachuco Cadaver.(That's the part that uses the irresistable riff from "Shortnin' Bread.") Drumbo is doing a great job on the cymbals from about 2:30 onwards.

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Some amazing lyrics on this track too:-

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When she wears her bolero then she begin to dance
All the pachucos start witholdin' hands
When she drives her Chevy, sissies don't dare to glance
Yellow jackets 'n red debbles buzzin' round her hair, hive-ho
She wears her past like a present
Take her fancy in the past
Her sedan skims along the floorboard
Her two pipes hummin' carbon come
Got her wheel out of a B-29 Bomber, Brody knob amber
Spanish fringe 'n talcum tazzles forever amber
She looks like an old squaw Indian
She ninety-nine, she won't go down
Avocado green 'n alfalfa yellow adorn her to the ground
Tattoos 'n tarnished utensils, a snow white bag full o' tunes
Drives a cartoon around
Drives a cartoon around
Broma-Seltzer blue umbrella keeps her up off the ground
Round red sombreros wrap her high tap horsey shoes
When she unfolds her umbrella, pachucos got the blues
Her lovin' make me so happy
If I smiled, I'd crack my chin
Her eyes are so peaceful, thinks it's heaven she been
Her skin is as smooth as the daisies
In the center where the sun shines in
Smiles as sweet as honey
Her teeth as clean as the combs where the bees go in
Who she walks flowers surround her
Let their nectar come into the air around her
She loves, her love sticks out like stars
Her lovin' stick out like stars
Unless I'm mistaken, Pachucos were the hip young Mexican immigrants hanging around in the US in the fifties. FZ used to go to their dances and copy their music I think.
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Old 07-11-2017, 03:36 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I have been listening to TVU&N for a few years longer than Trout Mask Reptar, but already I can tell I'm going to get as much enjoyment out of Trout Mask as VU&N. They are both legends in my eyes but I suppose the velvets have been a greater inspiration to me overall, so I give it to them but only by a hair.
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