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Trout Mask Replica (1969) 26 47.27%
The Velvet Underground & Nico (1967) 29 52.73%
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Old 11-01-2017, 06:05 PM   #201 (permalink)
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I did hear most of White Light/White Heat a while ago. Something to do with MB, even, I think. Didn't like it, so why the hell bother with their debut? That's a rhetorical question by the way. I could spend all my time giving second, third and tenth chances to the least promising things I've brushed up against, or I could do something that makes sense instead.

Like checking out that Gorguts album, for example.
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Old 11-01-2017, 06:08 PM   #202 (permalink)
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1. White Light/White Heat was made in two days with twenty bags of speed and is a very different animal from the debut.
2. Your flaky excuses shan't fly here
3. You've probably spent more time arguing against listening to the album than it would take to just listen to it.
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1. White Light/White Heat was made in two days with twenty bags of speed and is a very different animal from the debut.
That describes everything I've heard Lou Reed get involved in. Including Lulu.

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2. Your flaky excuses shan't fly here
But they might float on the surface of the sea.

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3. You've probably spent more time arguing against listening to the album than it would take to just listen to it.
While having more fun doing so.
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No...that's not how most of his work sounds. Want me to mail you some speed?
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Would my opinions count for more if I was on speed?
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Would my opinions count for more if I was on speed?
Your opinions on speed-influenced music would count for more if you had done it.
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Let's not forget that if I do finally cave in and listen to the album, all that would result from it would be you telling me that I've misunderstood the album and should listen to the collected works of bands X and Y to properly contextualize it, while Elphenor will tell me that my opinion on the album is nonsense and that he will henceforth make a point of belittling & disrespecting my musical opinions even harder.
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I mean, ja I probably would say that you didn't understand it if you didn't like it, but so far your justification has been pretty baseless given how there's very little that compares to that album. Like my Ramones analogy from earlier. It's like not listening to Black Sabbath because you don't like the synths that Nightwish uses. It's dumb.
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Well, I think it's a pretty good argument that I can't be expected to listen to every album that someone tells me is amazing. Just like I don't expect people to listen to whatever I consider the best albums of whatever genre. Literally all the time I've spent logged on to this forum today has been spent listening to new music. Like I said; it's always a tradeoff. Doing one thing means not doing another, because I can't do everything. How is that even a bad argument? I mean come on, do you even listen to anywhere near all the albums various people say are great? I doubt it. There's 24 hours in your days too.

So if I've heard a Velvet Underground album, heard various Lou Reed tracks, heard some Nico tracks a while ago, heard a lot of highly praised 60's and 70's rock - both more radio friendly and more arty material. Is it really any wonder I'm choosing to say "allright, enough is enough" at some point? I really doubt you or anyone would behave differently. I'm pretty sure I can't persuade you to listen to more of whatever I like that you don't like (so uhh, most of it, I guess). Just saying you and everyone else really has the same approach as me.
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Well, I think it's a pretty good argument that I can't be expected to listen to every album that someone tells me is amazing. Just like I don't expect people to listen to whatever I consider the best albums of whatever genre. Literally all the time I've spent logged on to this forum today has been spent listening to new music. Like I said; it's always a tradeoff. Doing one thing means not doing another, because I can't do everything. How is that even a bad argument? I mean come on, do you even listen to anywhere near all the albums various people say are great? I doubt it. There's 24 hours in your days too.
Cop outs are not good arguments. What you're arguing here is just an empty way for you to write off anything that isn't already on the roster.

Also, I would definitely check out any album that is as important and oft-discussed as the VU & Nico just to have an idea of what everyone's talking about.
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