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Trout Mask Replica (1969) 26 47.27%
The Velvet Underground & Nico (1967) 29 52.73%
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Old 02-19-2012, 06:21 PM   #21 (permalink)
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everyone who frequents albums like tmr have specific likes and dislikes whether u know it or not thats why i asked who was your least favorite also. see as for me finding my favorite is easy but for the other i just try to opposite from my favorite bands so what would be ur least favorite
Is it impossible to like two entirely different things like it is for some posters to use proper grammar?
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:04 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I'm not sure how comparable these albums really are. Some of the VU album is experimental but not all of it. And TMR is a double album too.
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Old 02-20-2012, 10:55 PM   #23 (permalink)
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its the internet not english class hop off your high horse and pay attention to what the post really says...
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Old 02-20-2012, 11:09 PM   #24 (permalink)
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everyone who frequents albums like tmr have specific likes and dislikes whether u know it or not thats why i asked who was your least favorite also.
I'm pretty sure I don't. I have musicians who I immensely enjoy, but I can't pick a particular favorite.
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its the internet not english class hop off your high horse and pay attention to what the post really says...
Did you do this? You seem focused on the height of my horse, aside from the fact that it is a bicycle. But it is possible for people to enjoy diverse things, even if one entirely counteracts the other.

At first listen, The VU and N didn't seem anything like an avant-garde album, just a great record. But after several spins, after all it is a great record, I saw the unconventionality within that was unfound at the time of the composition. But TMR on the other hand, it kind of punches you in the face with its avant-gardism.
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Yes, it's the internet, but if you want to be taken seriously on this board use proper grammar. You also need an artsy avatar, or we won't pay attention to your silly little posts.
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Yes, it's the internet, but if you want to be taken seriously on this board use proper grammar. You also need an artsy avatar, or we won't pay attention to your silly little posts.
My avatar is far from artsy.
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Today, I don`t really listen to either of these albums very often; TMR is too exhausting, and VU is too flawed, but my vote goes unhesitatingly to TMR because of the hours of pleasure it has given me in the past.

VU has some great tracks, but it also has a couple of throw-aways, and even the great tracks (with the possible exception of Heroin) have their slack moments. Sunday Morning for instance, doesn`t really work for me; it`s slow, which is ok, but isn`t there something false or unconvincing about Lou Reed`s crooning style ? I wish they`d given the song to Nico instead - her languid, smokey voice would`ve suited the mood of the song so well... But for me, this is an album of "what ifs", and gives the impression of being too hurriedly put together.
Beefheart, on the other hand, never lets the pace slacken; he packs something of interest into almost ever second of the album. He demanded a lot from the Magic Band, and though listening to TMR demands a lot from us, the rewards make it worthwhile; the vitality of invention, the extraordinarily complex playing, and of course the lyrics.

Maybe it`s a bit unfair to compare two lyricists with such different intentions and styles, but this is a "vs" thread after all, so here goes:-
First, an example of Lou Reed`s lyrics, which are usually described as "spare" :-

"He`s never early, he`s always late.
First thing you learn is that you`ve always got to wait.
I`m waiting for my man "


Here, LR takes three lines to tell us that he`s waiting for a drug dealer who isn`t punctual. Set apart from the sinister chugging beat of the music, the main strength or the lyrics comes from the frisson that it`s about drugs, not from the words themselves. If we imagine that LR is singing about his mailman, we can see just how flat his words are, and we have to wonder if "spare" is not a euphemism for "boring".

Then we have Captain Beefheart :-

Broma' seltzer blue umbrella keeps her up off the ground.
Round red sombreros wrap her high-tap horsey shoes;
When she unfurls her umbrella, Pachuco`s got the blues.


In his three lines the vocabulary is rich, the imagery is vivid and the ideas are tumbling over each other to get out. So, yes, I`m voting for Trout Mask.
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