The Official Iraq War thread (country, metal, quote, Viola)

[CAPTAIN CAVEMAN]

Then what the **** business do you have posting this?

[Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01]

Well, tell me, if a murderer knows murder is wrong, and doesn't try justify his actions, is he still wrong?


Edit- said it wrong.

[Frances]

Who would've guessed this thread would get stupid.

[Alexander the Grape]

Originally Posted by Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01

To the first part; I'm not saying it WILL lead to stagnation, I'm saying it CAN. The strong will spend all their energy helping out the weak. You would think this'll make society stronger, but it doesn't; The weak get all this help from people better than them, and what has the weak gained? Nothing except whatever resulted from someone elses work.

source?

Originally Posted by Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01

Second part; I believe that if it happens, it's natural. There is nothing abnormal in this world, not really. We just perceive it as unnatural because it goes against the norms we've grown accustomed to. A child SHOULDN'T have to die, but children do, unfortunately. It's just something we have to accept.

You never have to accept a child's death. Or anyone's. Ironically you sound like the ****head in your little story. You don't have to accept what life gives you, you can "fight back and beat the system." Your statment is very similar to a poor person saying "I'll never rise above poverty, so I should be a lazy ass and leech off of welfare." Obviously I don't think all (or even most) poor people are like that. lol obligatory apologist liberal disclaimer

Originally Posted by Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01

Third Part; Where did I say that gang-raping and starvation were ok? It's meaningless torture. If there IS a just reason to attack a country, it's to stop that **** from happening, one way or another.

Originally Posted by Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01

I believe that if it happens, it's natural.

Does that help answer your question? You didn't state it, but your posts imply that you have the attitude that a person should only look after themselves, because helping others makes someone weak. (NEWSFLASH, it takes a much stronger person to sacrifice themselves for another then to be selfish)

[Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01]

Originally Posted by Alexander the Grape

source?



You never have to accept a child's death. Or anyone's. Ironically you sound like the ****head in your little story. You don't have to accept what life gives you, you can "fight back and beat the system." Your statment is very similar to a poor person saying "I'll never rise above poverty, so I should be a lazy ass and leech off of welfare." Obviously I don't think all (or even most) poor people are like that. lol obligatory apologist liberal disclaimer



Does that help answer your question? You didn't state it, but your posts imply that you have the attitude that a person should only look after themselves, because helping others makes someone weak. (NEWSFLASH, it takes a much stronger person to sacrifice themselves for another then to be selfish)

I wasn't implying that a person should be entirely selfish with their power. Lend a helping hand now and then for small stuff, of course, but don't sacrifice yourself for someone who isn't willing to put in any effort.

IT takes a BIGGER person to sacrifice themselves for another than to be selfish. People more tied to beliefs like most of you guys, such as helping others. I'm not trying to disrespect you, but I'm just saying there are people out there who will find you (friends, family, for instance) and leech off of what makes you great.

Now, this'll be my final post in this thread because I think I've done more than enough to derail this thread off topic. If any of you are so insistent to continue debating/arguing (potayto, potahto), just PM me.

Final words (ooh so touching); I'm not trying to disrespect anyone here, as I said. Everyone has their beliefs. I have mine, and you have yours. Beliefs of what makes life stronger and more prosperous, what makes what right or wrong, etc.

[Alexander the Grape]

ok

good day to you sir

[Son of JayJamJah]

Originally Posted by Alexander the Grape

ok

good day to you sir

Who are you Willy Wonka?

"You Lose, you get Nothing, I said Good Day sir"

[Alexander the Grape]

Yes

[CAPTAIN CAVEMAN]

"You Lose, you get Nothing, I said Good Day sir"

Word up. Original is sick, that Johnny Depp **** doesn't really speak to me.







Not that I take deep meanings out Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.

[Joshee]

Hate.
George Bush is a complete moron.
He should hurry up and finish his last term.
One of the stupidest people I know of.
He's also president?
Confused?
I certainly elephant.