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Old 06-09-2019, 03:37 PM   #18061 (permalink)
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I honestly don't get what your so mad about or what your actually trying to say. It's like your just despairing at existence or something and looking for somebody to **** on who you don't even know. Is it because they cancelled Season 2 of Swamp Thing?
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Old 06-09-2019, 03:45 PM   #18062 (permalink)
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I honestly don't get what your so mad about or what your actually trying to say. It's like your just despairing at existence or something and looking for somebody to **** on who you don't even know. Is it because they cancelled Season 2 of Swamp Thing?
And you're just trying to justify what you do everyday as a capitalist by looking to a strongman to make you feel good while pretending that you care about everything else by putting lipstick on whatever form of democratic socialism that you don't actually care about.

I despair at existence because the average person looks to nothing to justify everything and hopes God will sort out the rest which just means looking to the status quo to keep existing as a comfort blanket. As if modern existence is anything but the latest form of nothingness given style.
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Old 06-09-2019, 04:09 PM   #18063 (permalink)
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And you're just trying to justify what you do everyday as a capitalist by looking to a strongman to make you feel good while pretending that you care about everything else by putting lipstick on whatever form of democratic socialism that you don't actually care about.

I despair at existence because the average person looks to nothing to justify everything and hopes God will sort out the rest which just means looking to the status quo to keep existing as a comfort blanket. As if modern existence is anything but the latest form of nothingness given style.
I'll tell you what partner. You can pontificate and moralize and strawman AFTER you've gotten your own **** straight. Then we can have a real discussion. What makes you think you have any right to lecture me about how I choose (or not choose) how to live my life when you don't give two ****s whether I live or die anyway? You've never given me much of an impression that you operate at some morally superior plane to anyone else I've met. Get over yourself.

I'm very interested in democratic socialism because it's better than the corporatism that has swallowed up the U.S. and is in the process of doing so in China and India (among other places). You don't seem to think that's enough for an individual person, but I'm not the one who calls the shots or makes the rules. I wasn't lucky enough to be born into the top 1%. Too bad.

I'd probably agree with you more about other things if you didn't have such a ****ty attitude and mentality about everything, but I also don't know everything that's going on in your life. It's not my place to judge you one way or the other, so I don't expect you to judge me either when you don't have the insight to do so.
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Old 06-10-2019, 12:54 AM   #18064 (permalink)
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Triple the ad hominem attacks, triple the fun. Gonna have to do better than that if you wanna play with the big boys, my Hitler-loving amigo.

You guys are so damn scared of Trump that you can't even have a discussion about anything related to him without trying to tear down other people. That's pretty pathetic.
Remember when I called you out for defending white supremacy and you resorted to nothing but ad hominem, strawmen & goofy stereotypes while blatantly lying about your own words? "Oh, it was only satire! That's why I defended my statement when others called me out on it!" Yeah, that was pretty pathetic.

Edit: BTW it's like you completely ignore that literal Nazis at Trump marches threatening to shoot BLM or the numerous mass shootings coming from alt-right ideologies. Go spit on an American flag and see how violently those MAGA guys lose respect for your 1st amendment rights. Your pseudo centralism just comes off as fake when majority of your posts are painting the left wing with stereotypes in defense of the right.
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Old 06-10-2019, 01:12 AM   #18065 (permalink)
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I'll tell you what partner. You can pontificate and moralize and strawman AFTER you've gotten your own **** straight. Then we can have a real discussion. What makes you think you have any right to lecture me about how I choose (or not choose) how to live my life when you don't give two ****s whether I live or die anyway? You've never given me much of an impression that you operate at some morally superior plane to anyone else I've met. Get over yourself.

I'm very interested in democratic socialism because it's better than the corporatism that has swallowed up the U.S. and is in the process of doing so in China and India (among other places). You don't seem to think that's enough for an individual person, but I'm not the one who calls the shots or makes the rules. I wasn't lucky enough to be born into the top 1%. Too bad.

I'd probably agree with you more about other things if you didn't have such a ****ty attitude and mentality about everything, but I also don't know everything that's going on in your life. It's not my place to judge you one way or the other, so I don't expect you to judge me either when you don't have the insight to do so.
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Old 06-10-2019, 07:22 AM   #18066 (permalink)
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Remember when I called you out for defending white supremacy and you resorted to nothing but ad hominem, strawmen & goofy stereotypes while blatantly lying about your own words? "Oh, it was only satire! That's why I defended my statement when others called me out on it!" Yeah, that was pretty pathetic.

Edit: BTW it's like you completely ignore that literal Nazis at Trump marches threatening to shoot BLM or the numerous mass shootings coming from alt-right ideologies. Go spit on an American flag and see how violently those MAGA guys lose respect for your 1st amendment rights. Your pseudo centralism just comes off as fake when majority of your posts are painting the left wing with stereotypes in defense of the right.
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"I only listen to the middle class, you ****ing peasant."
"Ah ****, we can't actually win an argument with this guy. Let's project some political positions that we don't like on him instead! That'll get 'im"

Lucem: you mean that discussion where you moved goalposts multiple times then got mad when I ****ed around with you afterward? Yeah, I remember that well.

I hold the Left to a higher standard than the Right as a general rule. Why wouldn't I make fun of them more when they're the ones we have legitimate expectations from? They're supposed to be the voice of reason and intellectualism in a world that pushes back against those things. I treat the subject of Right-wing extremism like I do Islamic extremism: it's out there, but there's very little you can do about it because the underlying causes are complicated. Whereas the whole thing about throwing milkshakes on people is less about deep seated fear and more about just being an idiot with no better way to protest. Also, if your spitting on an American flag at an event with people who feel like they actually care about the flag...don't expect to be treated any better than the dude who carries around a raw steak into a vegan march. Just sayin'.

Batlawd: You could always, you know, go join the middle class by shipping yourself in a crate to Denmark or something. What the hell do you have to lose, right?
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Old 06-10-2019, 01:44 PM   #18067 (permalink)
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"Ah ****, we can't actually win an argument with this guy. Let's project some political positions that we don't like on him instead! That'll get 'im"

Lucem: you mean that discussion where you moved goalposts multiple times then got mad when I ****ed around with you afterward? Yeah, I remember that well.

I hold the Left to a higher standard than the Right as a general rule. Why wouldn't I make fun of them more when they're the ones we have legitimate expectations from? They're supposed to be the voice of reason and intellectualism in a world that pushes back against those things. I treat the subject of Right-wing extremism like I do Islamic extremism: it's out there, but there's very little you can do about it because the underlying causes are complicated. Whereas the whole thing about throwing milkshakes on people is less about deep seated fear and more about just being an idiot with no better way to protest. Also, if your spitting on an American flag at an event with people who feel like they actually care about the flag...don't expect to be treated any better than the dude who carries around a raw steak into a vegan march. Just sayin'.

Batlawd: You could always, you know, go join the middle class by shipping yourself in a crate to Denmark or something. What the hell do you have to lose, right?

No, you tried this same condescending dishonest, blatant lying bull**** last time. I never moved goal posts. Not even once. And you know it. Quit with you're bull****ting to cover your ass.

That, as usual from you, is a poor ass ****ing stupid defense. You know morons exist in every walk of life. You don't scrutinize one group over another expecting better. What you're really doing is spreading anti-leftist propaganda by using the worst examples as representations for the whole movement while consistently defending the other side. Before you even fix your fingers to type out even more dishonest back peddling bull**** consider the fact that you already stereotyped me with liberal cliche's for calling you out for defending white supremacy. You're feeding into ignorant culture war bull****. Consistently.
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Old 06-10-2019, 01:46 PM   #18068 (permalink)
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Can you link and quote to Ant defending white supremacy?
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Yes, if I dig through the threads.

It was when that mass shooting happened and he pulled a 'what about this' with the racial massacres going on in the middle east.

Then he started going off about how majority bias is to be expected and that we're lucky that we're the majority and not Mexicans and as much as he claims that was a joke he was actually defending that statement against Batlord for a page where he, as he always does, accused Batlord of being drunk because he can't handle an actual debate with out childish ad hominem to dismiss the other's points.
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It seems to me he’s been the victim of a lot of ad hominem. I see people throwing **** at him and it makes me curious. So if you could please do dig through the threads and show me something.
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