FIRMLY GRASP IT IN YOUR HAND: man fails to figure out Capri Sun, dies.

edit: just found out this is a satirical website. well, that blows.

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I wanted you to hear it from me, Urban.

Spawning a new species. Seaguins. Small, shiny little animals.

I hope it at least took the penguin out to dinner before sealing the deal.

Is he trying to bang her? Do my parents actually love me? Why is this happening?

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I hear that the seal took the penguin out to a club beforehand.

[Don't know if this was posted on this thread or not. If so, you're getting it again.]

January 31, 2013 – A Chinese-Canadian tourist named Elisa Lam vanished from the Cecil Hotel where she had checked in some four days before. Two weeks later, her body was discovered in a hotel water tank located on the roof after boarders at the hotel complained of low water pressure as well as the water’s strange color and taste. A hotel worker opened the tank and discovered Lam’s nude body at the bottom. Firefighters were called and they had to drain the tank and cut a hole in the bottom of the tank to
remove the body.

There are so many questions about this case that no one can answer, at least not yet. Minutes before her death, a hotel security camera in one of the elevators recorded Lam entering the elevator, where she bends and presses a floor button. Strangely, nothing happens. She jumps forward, bends and peers down the hallway. Then she flattens herself against a wall of the elevator where she would be invisible to anyone outside apparently hiding from someone. She appears to say something and then she steps forward slowly into the hall giving a little jump while looking around. She steps sideways then steps backward back into the elevator in a strange kind of mechanical movement and then steps back into the hall. The door of the elevator remains open the whole time. Now she stands to the side where she is barely in view of the camera and seems to be just standing there but then lifts her right arm and appears to gesture with it. She steps back into the elevator in a way that suggests she is disoriented or dizzy/tipsy and appears to press several buttons. She steps back into the hall and stands to the side where she was before and then begins to gesture with her arms. At one point she waves her hands through the door of the elevator. Then she turns and gestures strangely towards the wall opposite her. She then appears to wander away. Then the elevator opens and closes several times.


Elisa Lam Video Before Found in Water Tank | Elisa Lam Elevator Video Being Followed - YouTube

There has been a lot of made of this. Much of it nonsense. Once source said that Lam’s gestures appear to be “almost occultic.” What does that mean? Another said that she is clearly terrified when the footage shows the opposite. What we know for certain is that Lam suffered from depression which she wrote of openly in a blog. In this footage, she appears to have suffered a psychotic break. What is striking to me is that her movements certainly seem immature for a person her age. She seems to have reverted to a child-like state. The youtube clip above states that she is bring followed but I see no evidence of it. One moment, she’s hiding and the next she in stands in the hallway completely exposed. Children often like to hide when they hear people coming—I often did as a child and I’ve seen numerous other children do it. She is simply in a child-like state due to a psychotic break.

The elevator is what is strange. She presses a button but it does not respond. Instead of taking another, Lam in her childish state seems to believe that someone in the hall might be playing with her. I think she must have heard people talking or maybe somebody passing by talking on a cell phone and she hides as a child might hide. When the voice or voices fade away, she ventures out into the hall and then goes back in and tries to make the elevator work by pressing several buttons. When it doesn’t, she steps back out and waves her hands in front of the motion sensors to see if the door will respond. Exactly why she gestures at the opposite wall or if she is gesturing to someone not in camera shot is unknown. Then she appears to wander away. Then strangely, the elevator appears to start working by itself, opening and closing several times but it never moves to any other floor. Was Lam or some unknown person still in the hall pressing the elevator’s call buttons or did the elevator just suddenly decide to work? Weird.

The next question is how did Elisa Lam end up on the roof of the hotel? The Cecil only has one door to the roof and it is kept locked and has an alarm. Only employees with a key can get up there. At the time Lam vanished, the door was locked and the alarm was set and functional. According to one source, there is another way up to the roof—from the fire escape. That had to be how Lam got to the roof because she could not have come through the door. No one knows at what point along Lam’s route that she gained access to the fire escape after walking away from the elevator but that had to be what she did.

An even bigger question is how Lam got into the water tower. The towers are ten feet high:

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There is only a 16-inch wide access hatch on the top of the tank that is latched. Apparently, she somehow got up on top of the tank, opened the hatch, climbed in and then shut the hatch. That’s no easy feat. If getting her out of the tank was that was easy, why would they have to drain the tank and cut a hole in the bottom? Because, evidently, it was not possible to extricate her body from the top making how she managed to squeeze through a 16-inch opening somewhat problematic. Some might think that bodies bloat up in water and float and she may have been too big to remove but her body was at the bottom of the tank indicating she did not bloat up. Either the water was rather cold or she was not in the water as long as people suppose.

This has led to speculation of murder. There is some evidence of foul play although circumstantial. Hiding the body in a water tank would be a good way to keep it from being readily discovered and when it was, there would be little forensic evidence available for testing. Another thing is that Lam was found in the tank nude. Where did her clothes go? I have not read a source that says her clothes were found anywhere. Cadaver dogs were even brought in during the two-week period that Lam was missing and apparently turned up nothing. Now, certainly her clothing could have been found and I just missed it but going by what I know about this case, Lam’s clothing is apparently missing. At what point did she remove her clothes and where did put them? If she was murdered, however, then we can surmise that the killer or killers took the clothing with them—but why? Why not dump them in the tank also unless the clothing was taken as a souvenir by the killer? But if Lam was murdered, how did the killer or killers get her body up on the tank and dump it? It would be hard enough to climb by oneself, how would one take a body?

There is also the question of why Lam would want to get into the tank at all but when we’re dealing with someone in a psychotic state, we can only wonder why they do anything that they do. In fact, no one even knows why Lam was at the Cecil at all. She was not on business and had no friends or contacts in LA that anyone knows of. Did she go to Los Angeles from Vancouver to hook up with someone she met online? She did not appear to have visited or met up with anyone. Or was this another manifestation of a mind in the grip of a full psychotic episode doing things for reasons known only to themselves that would likely make no sense whatsoever to the rest of us even if we knew what those motives were?

The official cause of death is listed as accidental drowning but this looks more like either suicide or homicide. The Cecil Hotel has a history of both. Elizabeth Short, the famed Black Dahlia, was said to have been at the Cecil on the night she was killed although this is unsubstantiated. A woman leaped to her death there in 1954 and another in 1962. A third jumped that same year and landed on a man below which killed them both. A
man named Osgood was found stabbed, strangled and raped in his room in 1964. The perpetrator was never caught. The Cecil was where Richard Ramirez, the Nightstalker, stayed during his killing spree. Another man, an Austrian named Jack Unterweger, stayed there, apparently “in homage to Ramirez,” while he murdered three prostitutes.

Now comes the synchronicity. There was a movie released in 2005 called Dark Water. The main character played by Jennifer Connelly is named Dahlia. Dahlia’s daughter, played by Ariel Gade, is named Ceci (Cecilia). They move into a tower block apartment and notice water leaking through the ceiling. It eventually turns out that the water is coming from the water tank on the roof where the body of a woman is found who had vanished the year before.

But is this synchronicity? Is it possible that Elisa Lam saw the movie or its 2002 Japanese predecessor and decided to duplicate it? It would explain why Lam was so determined to get into the water tank at the Cecil. Did she know the hotel’s dark history and is that why she went there? Certainly, this is a possibility. But it all comes together a bit too neatly, doesn’t it? We have to admit that the idea that Lam saw the movie and decided to go to the Cecil where the Black Dahlia supposedly went because two characters in the movie share the same names seems just a bit far-fetched. And if Lam had never seen the movie (and there is nothing to indicate she did), wow, what a strange coincidence.

But we’re not quite done yet. Shortly after the discovery of Lam’s body, a tuberculosis outbreak struck the skid row area of Los Angeles very near the Cecil Hotel.

TB outbreak is not just a skid row problem - Los Angeles Times

People had to get tested in order to contain the disease. And what is the name of the kit used to test for TB? Click on the link below:

PLOS ONE: Clinical Utility of a Commercial LAM-ELISA Assay for TB Diagnosis in HIV-Infected Patients Using Urine and Sputum Samples

That whole Elisa Lam story is so beyond bizarre. I'd read up on it months back. The movements she makes with her arms are especially creepy.

Without sound, we'll never know what she was doing. My guess is that she may have been singing or reciting a poem she learned as a child. The hand movements seem kind of choreographed and not uncontrolled, spastic movements. I think she did not have her meds, fell into a severe depression, and had a psychotic break as a way to save herself by disconnecting from reality. I think she reverted back to a happier time in her life--her childhood.

So suicide wouldn't be out of the question but who can figure out why she would kill herself in such a completely weird fashion? She's on the roof so just jump. Why crawl into a 10 ft high water tower?? I don't really buy the suicide thing but then I don't really by the foul play angle either. Neither option stands up to scrutiny. And yet something f-ucked up was happening!

And what about that elevator acting like that?? What was going on there? Weird how the door just stays open that whole time but then closes after she leaves and then opens and closes again seemingly on its own. Dafuq??

Nothing about this case makes any sense. It is completely weird. I'm a pretty hard-headed guy and I don't spook easily but I'll tell you this: I wouldn't stay in that goddamn hotel for nothin!

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Brilliant.

You and me both. One of those ghost hunter shows needs to camp out there for a week or two.

"Brisk like greyhounds, tough like leather, and generous like never before" :laughing:

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Sorry I need to vent
 

Sorry but I need to vent


I am sick of hearing about the Bill Cosby controversy.

I think us as a society draw our own conclusions instead of waiting for the facts and evidence. We live in a very media driven influence culture and we rely to much on it for information.

People are so dumb as hell and always fall for the "group think mentality"


Bill Cosby has never been found guilty of a crime nor is he on trial so why are people labeling him as a rapist when he has never been found guilty of anything?

Am I missing something?


If these women have indeed been raped why not file a report for an investigation, why go to the media?

Why are they just coming out with this now?


It just seems like a smear campaign and a way to get money. People are so easily influenced by the media instead of waiting for the facts, its sad.

It really shows how sad we are as a society and how pathetic the media is.

There's safety in numbers, and a lot of victims of sexual abuse are afraid of coming out. We saw the same thing with the Bob Filner sexual harassment case. I wholeheartedly agree about making up our minds before the facts come out being a bad thing. Then again in a case like this it's mostly just one persons word against another's.

It's got too long of a trail, and the floodgates have opened. His legacy is toast.

And based on what I've researched, deservedly so.

F*CK YOU Bill Cosby.

edit.

Your right...

I guess what really irritates me about this whole thing is that people seem to find enjoyment in bashing someone or watching someone "fall from grace"

Our media is very backstabbing.

They build you up and find pure enjoyment in tearing you down especially the black male celebrities.

If these women are indeed right, then I think he should go to jail or have some type of consequence. However, these women have not filed a complaint or went to law enforcement. They are just speaking to the media with their claims and to me it just seems strange and odd if they have in fact been raped. It just seems like they want to slander his reputation and are after money.

At this point, anybody can come out and claim they have been raped by Bill Cosby because that seems to be the "popular opinion" that everyone believes despite there being no evidence and the despite the fact that he has not been proven guilty of a crime

Bill Cosby spent a lot of time and effort and years of TV exposure building up an image of the ultimate family man deity.

Fck him.

Hold up because I've done my homework too. :)

He only settle one civil suit back in 2005 but there have been no other settlements and he has not been found guilty of a crime.

These women who are coming forward have had past consensual sexual relationships with him.

With that being said, if they were rapped, why would they continue to date him?

Sounds to me they were mad that Bill Cosby broke up with them or just simply want to jump on the bandwagon.

These claims need to be investigated more before people make up their minds.

But he has not been found guilty of a crime?

I am confused.

I totally agree with this statement but,

Sadly there are many cases were women are stuck (so to speak) in relationships where rape is a threat. Cosby doesn't at all strike me as the type to be domineering in that kind of way but it's always hard to tell. I'm not at all saying the claims are or even aren't true, just that that's something to consider.

I understand where you are coming from but if these women were rape the first time, why didn't they report it then?

They are claiming rape actually happened and was not used as a threat which imo is different from what you are saying but I still agree with your point.

They were not gaining anything from Bill Cosby.

I am just confused with why they are coming out now with this.

While I agree that people should reserve their judgement until they have some evidence or the man has been found guilty, I've never been a big fan of the "why are these women only just coming forward now?" way of thinking. Frankly there appears to be many reasons why a rape victim would not come forward, and whether they disclose what has happened immediately or after 10, 20, 30, 40 years etc shouldn't really make much of a difference. It's certainly not a defence for the accused.

It is not necessarily an accuse but its a another angle that people seem to minimize.

I understand the circumstances with rape victims and how they might not disclose their abuse right away (that is very true in some cases) but in a case involving a high profile celebrity its very possible that these women are just after his money (people seem to insist on minimizing this angle for some reason).

I personally think its need to be investigated more since there are multiple women making these accusations.

If there is reason to believe that's what they're doing, then yeah sure. If not, it should not be presented as an issue and it should go to trial, where if there is no evidence it won't hold up.

I don't think people try to minimise this. I feel like it's a question that plenty of people ask in cases like this, they question the validity of the supposed victims claims, they ask why it has taken them so long to come forward, and they ask whether they are not just making it up for financial gain. My point is that if someone believes the accused should be innocent until proven guilty, could you not apply the same logic to the alleged victim?

I agree with you but in this particular case, people are not giving a fair treatment to Bill Cosby.

From what I have seen on various message boards and media outlets, people have made their mind up in calling him a rapist.

This is why I said its a possibility the women could be lying BUT then again like you said there might be some truth to their claims.

I never said it was a fact they were lying. However, I do think Bill Cosby is being labeled unfairly. I just think it should be further investigated.

Rape is incredibly difficult to prove, so there's a chance nothing ever gets proven with Cosby. Does that mean he didn't do it? The "innocence until proven guilty" is a law structure and doesn't apply to human reasoning. With all these women coming out it's pretty reasonable to say he most likely did all of these things. Similar to Jian Ghomeshi in Canada I honestly don't get (and am frankly frustrated with) all of the "well he's not in jail therefore he probably didn't do it and the girls are lying.

I don't think any news stations are actually calling him a rapist straight up (that's how lawsuits start) but if you're not standing up for the victims and calling Cosby out as being a dirtbag I probably question your character.

Also rape is a seriously sensitive thing to deal with for victims (id imagine; not personal experience). If you're just a kid, got abused by a super famous person would you come out right away, by yourself, with no definite proof? It's ****king frightening situation to be in, and the culture around victim blaming doesn't at all help them out. Case and point tons of people claim they're just gold digging. Real scary and stupid imo

Case in point.

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Simply labeling Bill Cosby a rapist with no real proof is just as stupid in my opinion.

not saying he's a rapist per se but i could see bill cosby date raping some chicks

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Saying he probably is a rapist using simple reasoning is not tho

Well anything is possible and I never ruled that out but alot of people seem to have their minds made up that he is a rapist which once again... is just as stupid.

Based on what we know to date - complete denial is kinda stupid.

let's just all agree that debating whether bill cosby might have date raped some chicks a few decades ago on the internet is pretty stupid in general.

Drugged and raped is the accusation.

Not stupid at all.

"The accusations have common threads, painting a picture of a man who allegedly used his power and influence in the entertainment industry to seek out vulnerable young women and lure them in with the promise of mentorship. Some have said they were discouraged from going public because of Cosby's fame, power, and reputation as "America's dad."

Dude f*cked up. Dude's rep is gonna pay. Shame on him.

well, i tried to find you people a middle ground. now you're on your own. continue.

Denial about what when nothing has been investigated?

You don't know that so why are you judging him?