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Anteater 11-02-2021 11:01 AM

So JFK is coming back before Jesus?

Newsweek - QAnon Believers Claim JFK Jr. Will 'Reappear' in Dallas, Declare Donald Trump President

Psy-Fi 11-02-2021 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2190418)



Bill Hicks - Jesus & JFK

Mindfulness 11-02-2021 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Psy-Fi (Post 2190454)


Bill Hicks - Jesus & JFK

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Psy-Fi 11-03-2021 04:51 AM


Trollheart 11-03-2021 06:13 AM

Guess they made a monkey of everyone huh?


Jesus Christ, they have their own language, don't they? About fifty percent of that article means nothing to me! KYC? Air drop? AMA? I wonder what our own Cryptocurrency Baron, Mindfulness, thinks of it all?

jadis 11-04-2021 09:12 AM

Air Canada CEO says he's lived in Montreal 'without speaking French' for 14 years


One of the biggest news stories in Canada at the moment.

I used to despise anglos living in Montreal and refusing to learn French but these days my gf is an American who I've accepted is never going to learn a foreign language and I still want her to live in Montreal with me so I guess that means my stance has softened.

The Batlord 11-04-2021 09:51 AM

Ah you're a weird Quebec nationalist. That's a puzzle piece falling into place.

jadis 11-04-2021 10:28 AM

On some definitions I guess I am: language is a crucial element in most nationalisms, though it also happens to be the only one I care about in this case.

The vast majority of Montreal anglos (there are distinctly working class Anglophone pockets in Quebec where it's not the case) have every opportunity to learn French yet choose to preserve their parochial monolinguism because they're damn proud of it. To me that's a much weirder choice than making the effort to learn a language that gives you access to both plenty of jobs and the prose stylings of Marcel Proust.

What makes Montreal special is the linguistic situation, a majority Francophone city on the margin of the most culturally hegemonic empire the world has ever known. That would be a shame to lose. Who needs another Toronto etc.

Mindfulness 11-04-2021 02:37 PM


The Batlord 11-04-2021 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jadis (Post 2190635)
On some definitions I guess I am: language is a crucial element in most nationalisms, though it also happens to be the only one I care about in this case.

The vast majority of Montreal anglos (there are distinctly working class Anglophone pockets in Quebec where it's not the case) have every opportunity to learn French yet choose to preserve their parochial monolinguism because they're damn proud of it. To me that's a much weirder choice than making the effort to learn a language that gives you access to both plenty of jobs and the prose stylings of Marcel Proust.

What makes Montreal special is the linguistic situation, a majority Francophone city on the margin of the most culturally hegemonic empire the world has ever known. That would be a shame to lose. Who needs another Toronto etc.

So you're an effete university intellectual heaping scorn on the common folk who don't talk good. Charming.

jadis 11-05-2021 01:06 AM

This makes no sense if you know the first thing about Anglophones vs Francophones in Montreal but knock yourself out with this "material analysis"

adidasss 11-05-2021 02:37 AM

I have to be honest, I don't speak French but whenever I watch a movie in Quebecois French, it hurts my ears. Sounds like some kind of bastardized peasant version of French. I imagine the French are not very happy with how that turned out. :/

The Batlord 11-05-2021 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jadis (Post 2190724)
This makes no sense if you know the first thing about Anglophones vs Francophones in Montreal but knock yourself out with this "material analysis"

I'm going by your analysis, bud, but if they're not poor then I guess they don't need to learn French to get a decent job. They still need to if they want to read some Frenchie writer, cause learning a whole 'nother language for the sake of casual reading is a reasonable expectation to have.

Effete university intellectual is absolutely accurate though. Little tip if you don't want to out yourself as an undercover alien preparing the way for an invasion: don't use "parochial" while looking down on us ignorant humans.

jadis 11-05-2021 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 2190725)
I have to be honest, I don't speak French but whenever I watch a movie in Quebecois French, it hurts my ears. Sounds like some kind of bastardized peasant version of French. I imagine the French are not very happy with how that turned out. :/

Yeah it's very rarely singled out for its beauty and the peasant bit is not wrong... Though the irony is that its sounds are actually closer to French as it was spoken in certain regions of France in the 17th century compared to the Parisian French of today, which is the more recent evolution. Colonies are always more linguistically conservative than the metropolis, so if you want to hear some of the vowels that were part of various regional dialects in earlier French and have since disappeared in standard French, Canada is where you want to go (certain parts of New Brunswick too: Acadian French has some things in common with the French of Rabelais).

The vocabulary is of course way Americanized (despite inordinate pride in not saying le parking and le weekend like the French do) and you have varieties of both Quebecois and Acadian French that have been derided as bastardizations by speakers of both dialects.

adidasss 11-05-2021 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2190742)
I'm going by your analysis, bud, but if they're not poor then I guess they don't need to learn French to get a decent job. They still need to if they want to read some Frenchie writer, cause learning a whole 'nother language for the sake of casual reading is a reasonable expectation to have.

Effete university intellectual is absolutely accurate though. Little tip if you don't want to out yourself as an undercover alien preparing the way for an invasion: don't use "parochial" while looking down on us ignorant humans.

You're just butthurt because you're an ignorant American who doesn't speak a second language. :)

adidasss 11-05-2021 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jadis (Post 2190745)
Yeah it's very rarely singled out for its beauty and the peasant bit is not wrong... Though the irony is that its sounds are actually closer to French as it was spoken in certain regions of France in the 17th century compared to the Parisian French of today, which is the more recent evolution. Colonies are always more linguistically conservative than the metropolis, so if you want to hear some of the vowels that were part of various regional dialects in earlier French and have since disappeared in standard French, Canada is where you want to go (certain parts of New Brunswick too: Acadian French has some things in common with the French of Rabelais).

The vocabulary is of course way Americanized (despite inordinate pride in not saying le parking and le weekend like the French do) and you have varieties of both Quebecois and Acadian French that have been derided as bastardizations by speakers of both dialects.

Interesting, something similar happened with Spanish and Portuguese. Although Brazilian Portuguese is one of the rare examples where the colonial version is actually significantly more beautiful than the original. :love:

The Batlord 11-05-2021 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 2190746)
You're just butthurt because you're an ignorant American who doesn't speak a second language. :)

You're just butthurt you had to learn English cause we own your bitchass.

adidasss 11-05-2021 07:09 AM

I'm not butthurt at all, I love English and languages in general and was lucky enough to live in a small and insignificant country where everything is subtitled which helped a lot in learning a few... :)

Anteater 11-05-2021 12:19 PM

Vice Media - Hackers Apologize to Arab Royal Families for Leaking Their Data

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Allan Liska, a researcher at cybersecurity firm Recorded Future who tracks ransomware, said that the hackers must have gotten scared of potential retaliation from the Arab states.

“Bluntly, UAE sends assassination teams to deal with people they don’t like. The US and UK don’t do that (any more). Even ransomware groups are subject to political pressure. My guess is that they had a conversation with someone in the Kremlin who told that this was a bad idea and so they removed the data,” Liska told Motherboard in an online chat. “This is their way of covering it up.”
Lolwut

jadis 11-05-2021 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2190742)
I'm going by your analysis

All you did is make guesses and form assumptions about a reality you know nothing about based on a post containing brief references to said reality (“analysis”). I would suggest trying to suspend your judgment more often because that’s how you learn new things as opposed to projecting your preconceptions on everything, but tbh it’s hard to do this in a conversation with someone you dislike.

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 2190747)
Interesting, something similar happened with Spanish and Portuguese. Although Brazilian Portuguese is one of the rare examples where the colonial version is actually significantly more beautiful than the original. :love:

I love listening to their football commentators. The player everyone knows as Ronaldinho for them is Hooonalzheeeeenio

The Batlord 11-05-2021 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jadis (Post 2190784)
All you did is make guesses and form assumptions about a reality you know nothing about based on a post containing brief references to said reality (“analysis”). I would suggest trying to suspend your judgment more often because that’s how you learn new things as opposed to projecting your preconceptions on everything, but tbh it’s hard to do this in a conversation with someone you dislike.

Well when you call a group "parochial" and impugn their job prospects how is one supposed to interpret that?

And I don't know you well enough to dislike you. Right now you're just a digital windmill to tilt at.

jadis 11-05-2021 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2190789)
Well when you call a group "parochial" and impugn their job prospects how is one supposed to interpret that?

Maybe the following analogy would be helpful:

Imagine if you will that there was a majority-Hispanophone US state (let's say on the Mexican border) and in it you had enclaves of Anglophones who were too proud of their historical status as the dominant group to deign to learn Spanish. Things have definitely changed since they were fully in control of the financial and education sectors and the Hispanophones were downtrodden factory workers whose education system was ran by the Catholic church. Many Anglophones are still very gainfully employed in private firms in the financial sector, but cushy government jobs are no longer accessible to them after a law was passed that you need to show a level of proficiency in Spanish to work there. There are fewer and fewer schools where their children can study in English and you need to jump through hoops to get in.

Now the state authorities are going out of their way to encourage the Anglophone minority to learn Spanish. Language courses are free and you get welfare while you're taking them. And of course there's the added bonus: culture. If you know Spanish you gain access to a world of cultural riches, to one of the world's most widely spoken languages.

And yet there's still a significant proportion of Anglophones who refuse to learn it because they have an idea of "heritage" that includes being superior to those who speak Spanish.

Of course there are many nuances I've conveniently left out, but the people I described as "parochial" share certain traits with those in the deep south who fly the confederate flag today. Their idea of the supremacy of anglo protestantism is very stupid and exclusionary.

The Batlord 11-05-2021 03:54 PM

Sounds like you'd be better off seizing the means of production from them rather than just being dumb nationalists right back at them.

Frownland 11-05-2021 05:08 PM

Why use so many paragraphs when you can just use whatever the n word is for Quebeckers and be done with it?

The Batlord 11-05-2021 05:36 PM

Snow frogs?

Psy-Fi 11-06-2021 06:15 AM

A hospital worker has admitted murdering two women in 1987, and sexually abusing at least 100 female corpses, including children.

DianneW 11-06-2021 03:25 PM

I do not want to believe that....what fun is a copse for heaven or hell's sake..where is the sick bucket when you need it....

Trollheart 11-06-2021 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DianneW (Post 2190885)
I do not want to believe that....what fun is a copse for heaven or hell's sake..where is the sick bucket when you need it....

Ask Jimmy Savile :(

Also I assume you meant a corpse not one of these
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...k_-_728028.jpg
although that "wood" ( ;) ) be much easier on the eye...

Psy-Fi 11-07-2021 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DianneW (Post 2190885)
I do not want to believe that....what fun is a copse for heaven or hell's sake..where is the sick bucket when you need it....



Sam Kinison - Necrophelia

DianneW 11-07-2021 12:27 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-gentleman.htm

DianneW 11-07-2021 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2190887)
Ask Jimmy Savile :(

Also I assume you meant a corpse not one of these
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...k_-_728028.jpg
although that "wood" ( ;) ) be much easier on the eye...


:love:

Scarlett O'Hara 11-08-2021 07:54 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...00-drug-cases/

Disgusting that she's only got 3 years inside.

adidasss 11-09-2021 03:17 AM

That news story is from 5 years ago!

Tristan_Geoff 11-09-2021 04:10 AM

Did you hear about the WTO riots?

Trollheart 11-09-2021 07:02 PM

So is that member! Hi Vanilla! :love:

Psy-Fi 11-10-2021 05:34 AM

Another 100 Hertz customers come forward joining 165 suing the company after being arrested and sometimes jailed for months after internal tracking errors lead company to falsely report paid rentals as STOLEN

Mindfulness 11-11-2021 08:52 AM

https://i.ibb.co/V2Kh8FC/d6e18d0e-77...5-1140x641.jpg
COMING SOON: Funding Secured for Train Service Between Quad Cities and Chicago
https://www.wqad.com/article/enterta...=snd-autopilot

Plankton 11-11-2021 10:52 AM

See ya in 15 years :wavey:

lol

Mindfulness 11-11-2021 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Plankton (Post 2191437)
See ya in 15 years :wavey:

lol

I feel bad for Galesburg,Ill now because no one from the whole quad cities area won't need their train station anymore.
I am wondering where these train tracks and station will be in quad cities too.
guess i should probably read the article lol

Mindfulness 11-11-2021 11:09 AM

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Again, it's a 15-year strategy, which means Amtrak has until 2036 to make this happen. Hey, we've waited this long, right?!
wtf lol
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