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Old 09-06-2013, 02:08 PM   #21 (permalink)
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ok maybe we are viewing it differently, i thought you meant ppl were buyin guns because of obama in the sense that they were scared of obama leading some type of tyranny against the people and they would have to defend themselves (maybe that is what u are sayin). seems to me like gun ownership increased because obama was makin noise about regulating them. my gun collector friend sold 3 of his 4 AR-15s for double what he paid for them because ppl were scared of what laws obama would try to get through. he has probably 40 guns and i agree its stupid but its his main hobby and we go to the range sometimes to shoot all his different guns.
Guns SHOULD be regulated. There is no plausible reason that they shouldn't be. And all your guns aren't going to do you a bit of good if the govt marshaled its forces against the American people although I cannot come up with a scenario that could begin to explain why it would want to.

All Obama wanted to do was ban assault rifles because they are far too dangerous to be considered effect weapons for home defense and make it far too easy for a nut who wants to go on a killing spree. You shoot somebody who is breaking into your house, you'd better hope that bullet doesn't kill a neighbor or somebody walking down the sidewalk or that's at least negligent homicide. I mean, a BB gun would be a more effective deterrent. If you don't think so, try advancing on somebody shooting at your face with one. For that matter, so would a paint gun--those things HURT!

There's so many things you can use for home defense that this whole "I need a gun with major firepower" is just a lot of macho s-hit. All these people afraid of Obama while at the time they are calling him the most incompetent, cowardly president we've ever had. Not to mention he was EASILY defeated in his attempt to ban assault weapons. But the shame isn't his. He tried at least. And another Sandy Hook WILL happen again--just a matter of time. I don't think Americans really care. We act concerned for a few days and then we're right back to the bulls-hit again. So it will happen again, there will be another debate but ultimately the gun lobby will win like always and everybody's happy until the next mass shooting.
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Old 09-08-2013, 07:05 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Guns SHOULD be regulated. There is no plausible reason that they shouldn't be. And all your guns aren't going to do you a bit of good if the govt marshaled its forces against the American people although I cannot come up with a scenario that could begin to explain why it would want to.

All Obama wanted to do was ban assault rifles because they are far too dangerous to be considered effect weapons for home defense and make it far too easy for a nut who wants to go on a killing spree. You shoot somebody who is breaking into your house, you'd better hope that bullet doesn't kill a neighbor or somebody walking down the sidewalk or that's at least negligent homicide. I mean, a BB gun would be a more effective deterrent. If you don't think so, try advancing on somebody shooting at your face with one. For that matter, so would a paint gun--those things HURT!

There's so many things you can use for home defense that this whole "I need a gun with major firepower" is just a lot of macho s-hit. All these people afraid of Obama while at the time they are calling him the most incompetent, cowardly president we've ever had. Not to mention he was EASILY defeated in his attempt to ban assault weapons. But the shame isn't his. He tried at least. And another Sandy Hook WILL happen again--just a matter of time. I don't think Americans really care. We act concerned for a few days and then we're right back to the bulls-hit again. So it will happen again, there will be another debate but ultimately the gun lobby will win like always and everybody's happy until the next mass shooting.
you can regulate guns and have mandatory classes for anyone wanting to legally purchase a gun, thatd be great. but in my perfect world, every responsible citizen has a gun. im a good shot so if johhny doe wants to come into my home he is ending up with a bullet in him and i will take the risk of .01% i hit my neighbor. a paintball gun isnt goin to stop someone from shooting me


to echo what i ust said in the gun control thread, it would be stupid to not try and defend ourselves vs an oppressive government. if a 7 foot, 400 pound guy is tryin to kill me i am probably goin to lose all things equal but i will be damned if i am not gonna try to fight back and not cower in the fetal position
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Old 09-08-2013, 09:32 AM   #23 (permalink)
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In my perfect world, no one would need one. How perfect is your world when everybody has to be armed for protection? As I've stated elsewhere, I don't care if you're a hunter or you like to shoot at a range. If you like guns for those reasons, I have no beef with that. I'm fine with that. But the personal protection argument is literally shot full of holes.
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In my perfect world, no one would need one. How perfect is your world when everybody has to be armed for protection? As I've stated elsewhere, I don't care if you're a hunter or you like to shoot at a range. If you like guns for those reasons, I have no beef with that. I'm fine with that. But the personal protection argument is literally shot full of holes.
i dont hunt or shoot at a range. i own it purely for protection. youre right, in a more perfect world there would be zero guns anywhere. but thats obviously not possible, and since it isnt i think everyone should own a gun that is mentally stable and responsible
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It's everybody owning one that is causing the problem. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Old 09-08-2013, 11:06 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Keep this in the Gun thread.....dont ruin this one too.
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