Scottish Independence.

**Janszoon** · 09-20-2014, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I'm no Republican, and I voted for Obama, but a lot of that sounded like the same meaningless, pretty sounding, "Yes, we can!" sloganeering that he was doing during his first election. Gets the young people excited, but has no practical value.

I agree, that's true of politics in general. I'm just saying when the issue is starting new country, you really should have more of a well thought out plan. It is possible for a politician to just coast along for a term or two within an existing political structure. I'd imagine when you're building a whole new thing from the ground up it's a lot less forgiving.

The Batlord · 09-20-2014, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I agree, that's true of politics in general. I'm just saying when the issue is starting new country, you really should have more of a well thought out plan. It is possible for a politician to just coast along for a term or two within an existing political structure. I'd imagine when you're building a whole new thing from the ground up it's a lot less forgiving.

It's pretty hard to headbutt the national debt.

FETCHER. · 09-21-2014, 10:26 AM

I just didn't want it to get 20 years down the line and independence goes tits up, long story short, England bails us out again and we end up with less privileges than we do now. If they had drawn up the economy/tax plans beforehand that'd be great but I'm not gambling my future on empty promises from politicians. As we all know politicians kinda lie a lot.

TheBig3 · 09-21-2014, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by FETCHER.

I just didn't want it to get 20 years down the line and independence goes tits up, long story short, England bails us out again and we end up with less privileges than we do now. If they had drawn up the economy/tax plans beforehand that'd be great but I'm not gambling my future on empty promises from politicians. As we all know politicians kinda lie a lot.

They do, but almost exclusively because most people don't have time to actually review an issue, and they'll (people) gut vote on something they believe they understand.

I'm no policy wonk, but the amount of things people will talk to you about as if they're experts, when they have a horrifying lack of factual knowledge, is mind blowing.

As one of my professors once said to me, if you walk into a Physics 101 class at any University, most students believe the instructor knows more than they do. If you walk into any politics course, about 50% of the students believe they know more than the professor. And while it's pretty hard to prove that, I'm inclined to believe it. Some of the things that have been said to me at parties with a straight face are jaw dropping.