donald trump 4 prez

djchameleon · 09-27-2016, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind

Would you call him successful?

Yes, I would. what's your point?

Blank. · 09-28-2016, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

Yes, I would. what's your point?

Well, you keep going on about how trump is not succesful. But him and vince aren't that different. They were both handed their companies from their dad's. And they both had massive failures in business. WBF, XFL, and buying a hockey team to name a few. Hell, wwe is currently going through a massive ratings drop that has many people concerned about the companies future. He has as many, if not more failures than trump. Yet you say he is a success.

My point is, that a business failure in a venture doesn't mean the person is not a success. All business men have them. It's common. No one is perfect and to say someone is a failure at business because of a few failures among dozens of success is asinine.

Tristan_Geoff · 09-28-2016, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind

Well, you keep going on about how trump is not succesful. But him and vince aren't that different. They were both handed their companies from their dad's. And they both had massive failures in business. WBF, XFL, and buying a hockey team to name a few. Hell, wwe is currently going through a massive ratings drop that has many people concerned about the companies future. He has as many, if not more failures than trump. Yet you say he is a success.

My point is, that a business failure in a venture doesn't mean the person is not a success. All business men have them. It's common. No one is perfect and to say someone is a failure at business because of a few failures among dozens of success is asinine.

What kind of file type is "buying a hockey team" native to?

**Janszoon** · 09-28-2016, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

^ Actually, it means your accountants are intelligent and that you'd rather follow their advice than to face up to your social responsibilities. That a contender for the Presidency openly applauds such an approach is just one more new low for American politics, courtesy of DT.
It's pretty worrying if Chula is the only person here calling Trump out on it.

Yep, exactly what I was thinking as well.

djchameleon · 09-28-2016, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind

My point is, that a business failure in a venture doesn't mean the person is not a success. All business men have them. It's common. No one is perfect and to say someone is a failure at business because of a few failures among dozens of success is asinine.

You weren't paying attention. I moved the goal posts in my last post. I said he's not as successful as he claims to be. Not that he isn't successful at all. That is Ki's stance. TBH, I don't remember saying he wasn't successful at all but I will go back and double check. I know in the last post I made. I specifically said that he's not as successful as people think he is. Which is true as far as his claims of wealth goes.

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Making billions you say?

Being handed 14 million from your father to start a business. Making money and losing money while dodging paying for taxes and having your **** audited every single year.

Yeah that's a f*cking failure alright. He's filed for bankruptcy more times that I can count and yes sometimes it's a smart move to file for it but there are successful businessmen that have never had to file for bankruptcy to get around shady sh*t.

Yeah, he's such a success person conning idiots out of their money. I kind of want to do that but I have this thing called a moral compass that prevents me from doing that.

Trump isn't worth as much as he claims he is. Main reason he doesn't want to show off his tax statements.

That is my original post just in case you didn't see it.

Blank. · 09-28-2016, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff

What kind of file type is "buying a hockey team" native to?

Huh?

Terrapin_Station · 09-28-2016, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ki

He's not a successful businessman if he has multiple bankruptcies in his record.

I don't know anyone who knows much about business or economics who would say that. In the world of businesses that make many millions to billions annually, bankruptcies aren't seen the way persons outside of that world see them.

(And I do know some folks who know a lot about business and economics--those are my wife's areas of expertise.)

Of course, laypersons do still think of bankruptcies as something disastrous, and that impression could hurt the general perception of Trump.

Tristan_Geoff · 09-28-2016, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind

Huh?

Nvmd. Was a reference to the reat of that sentence looking like file extensions.

Chula Vista · 09-28-2016, 11:17 AM

Comparing Trump with Vince McMahon is so damn appropriate. Both are puff out your chest, egotistical blowhards who are the face and spokesmen of corporations that are based on theater and fallacy.

The Batlord · 09-28-2016, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff

Nvmd. Was a reference to the reat of that sentence looking like file extensions.

I got it. It wasn't that hard.

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Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	Comparing Trump with Vince McMahon is so damn appropriate. Both are puff out your chest, egotistical blowhards who are the face and spokesmen of corporations that are based on theater and fallacy. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”