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Old 11-19-2016, 12:46 PM   #4441 (permalink)
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Google actually changed their definition to the one you quoted about 5 months ago. Interesting. Probably too many people googling "left wing fascism" or something.

Also, a fascist has to do something fascist to be a fascist. Republicans haven't been in power for 8 years, let them prove it first.
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Google actually changed their definition to the one you quoted about 5 months ago. Interesting. Probably too many people googling "left wing fascism" or something.
That means I got to stop getting my definitions from google. ****ing google, just post the actual dictionary definitions you neo-liberal ass website.
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Head on over to Wikipedia to get another fill of that neo-liberal kool aid.
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My issue is with the term "right-wing" being used within the definition, because we both know that fascism shouldn't solely be used specifically for one side or the other.

These are the best definitions I have come across: Fascism | Definition of Fascism by Merriam-Webster and Fascism | Define Fascism at Dictionary.com
Yes, fascism does have both left-wing and right-wing elements, but most of their policies are haphazardly cobbled together nonsense that the fascists didn't even follow. Functionally speaking fascism does not have a true economic policy beyond the whims of the leader and party members.

The true defining trait of fascism is ultra-right wing cultural conservatism and nationalism. Everything else is basically window dressing to legitimize a reactionary, populist movement. Fascism, despite political similarities to socialism, is mostly defined by that right-wing ideology to an extent that calling it anything but right-wing is missing the point.
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Republicans haven't been in power for 8 years, let them prove it first.
You're kidding right? They've held a majority in the house and senate for the past 6 years and have done nothing but obstruct the president and other democrats on the federal level as well as passing GOP legislation at the state level. Things like restricting women's rights, gerrymandering and passing tougher voting laws to assist the GOP during statewide elections, making it harder to get a legal abortion, pushing for increased fracking, and reducing environmental protection and worker safety restrictions.

Just to name a few. Take the blinders off man.
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I actually think that gridlock is a good thing in general. There are cases where they're obstructing decent things, but generally it keeps things at an even level.
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You're kidding right? They've held a majority in the house and senate for the past 6 years and have done nothing but obstruct the president and other democrats on the federal level as well as passing GOP legislation at the state level. Things like restricting women's rights, gerrymandering and passing tougher voting laws to assist the GOP during statewide elections, making it harder to get a legal abortion, pushing for increased fracking, and reducing environmental protection and worker safety restrictions.

Just to name a few. Take the blinders off man.
That stuff is obviously bad governance but it was the Dems who voted to change the needed approval for cabinet posts from 60% to a simple majority. Then you got Obama stretching the limits of executive order. Now it's the Dems protesting the electoral college. You get the wrong people in there and suddenly you remember why this stuff was in place.
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That stuff is obviously bad governance but it was the Dems who voted to change the needed approval for cabinet posts from 60% to a simple majority. Then you got Obama stretching the limits of executive order. Now it's the Dems protesting the electoral college. You get the wrong people in there and suddenly you remember why this stuff was in place.
True dat. I do find it a bit odd that in the past 32 presidential elections there's only two instances of the electoral college overriding the popular vote and both times it was Dems that lost. Maybe some tweaking is in order?

As of today Clinton's up 1,437,316 votes over Trump. As a comparison, Obama beat Romney by 4,982,291 and McCain by 9,550,193. And Bush beat Kerry by 3,012,166.
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You're kidding right? They've held a majority in the house and senate for the past 6 years and have done nothing but obstruct the president and other democrats on the federal level as well as passing GOP legislation at the state level. Things like restricting women's rights, gerrymandering and passing tougher voting laws to assist the GOP during statewide elections, making it harder to get a legal abortion, pushing for increased fracking, and reducing environmental protection and worker safety restrictions.

Just to name a few. Take the blinders off man.
Yeap, Congress is collectively more powerful than the president in terms of how their decisions affect Americans domestically.
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